Tommy Robinson deported for being a threat to national security

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Oh this cheered me right up this morning.

Tommy Grifter Robinson decided he needed a holiday (wonder where he gets the money from) and flew to Colombia where he wasn't allowed in, then flew to Panama where he wasn't allowed in and was put on a flight for deportation back to the UK.

I'm not sure why Tommy Robinson wouldn't be happy that other countries don't want to let in dangerous rabble-rousers with a history of violence.

(sad video here about how much he was looking forward to his holiday https://x.com/gadget440/status/1969217159470428210?s=61&t=U9XrcF693-JpMxeIueYG7g )

Worth a read

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk-politics/2024/08/tommy-robinson-is-no-working-class-hero-luton

What is Luton's indigenous culture , pray?
What does irradiated mean?
Why 70 years?
Define a local. 'Robinson' himself would hardly qualify as 'indigenous' to Luton.
Are you local if born in Luton? Just checking as I think most of the people you are directing your very thinly veiled Islamophobia at were probably born in Luton. Their parents probably were, too.

The same! I only know him by TR, didn’t know half of his convictions. Had never heard of Stephen Yaxley whatever it is. The links have been horrifying. I had no clue about the 88 bus either. I’m now even sadder he’s allowed to visit here. And that there seems to be so many of them.

Farage and Tommy Robinson - 2 sides of the same racist coin - divided IMO by class, as in NF wouldn’t touch the likes of TR with a bargepole, and NF probably gets right up TR’s nose.
They both try to an extent to give their racism a veneer of respectability- more so NF as he has a chance with his party right now, but knows it needs to be somewhat decent in appearance. But Tommy has also stopped publicly being as racist to all as before and focuses on his particular hatred of Muslims - and tries to find seemingly and possibly rational reasons - I do think he thinks if he can get other non Muslim Asians onside he’s a better chance, and so holds what’s left of his nose to do so, but he would definitely continue to the rest if he could.
Both grifters, Nigel takes money for little work, and goes around the world dissing the U.K., advising on how to get tax helpful passports - all for cash. Tommy relies on types of go fund me, he knew he’d be binned from Columbia, he knew he’d be arrested the last time he had a march and returned to the U.K. and then his supporters are throwing in his hat for poor Tommeh. I heard he also has a bitcoin link in his ranty videos, though try hard to avoid them.
Both imo have US paymasters and possibly others.
Tbh the fact we have an apparently respectable face of racism in parliament and then a less respectable face outside of it is very scary as it ends up with all options available and attracts bigger audiences. I said at the top they dislike each other but they’re getting further together - deliberately or not I wonder.

Irradiated? Someone nuked Luton? Why wasn't that on the news?

It hasn’t . It’s just that it seems to be less leftist than it always has been and not all are leftist woke MN and have different views 👍

Being WC is not a race. If you are noticing disparaging comments and stereotypes directed at WC people, this is classism. Not racism. Classism is its own issue and as many POC are also WC, serves to compound their disadvantage, whereas white WC people are disadvantaged by their class but not their race. As a WC person I'm tired of my 'disadvantage' being co-opted to justify racism, when POC are not the cause of class based inequality.
Also tired of being wheeled out as the unheard 'victims' of diversity so that racists can falsely frame their oppression of POC as protection of the WC.
And that's before we get to the stereotypes that frame us as the racists, link our clothes, our income, our education with right wing views, the use of 'Tommeh' to link support for the man with WC northerners. All this is classism and I don't care for it at all. But if you're white, it's not racism.

I’m not a “leftist” and I’m horrified at some of the views and wording used by MNers backing far right ideologies.

Surely there decent debate to be had without reporting to descriptions like “indigenous” and “irradicated”.

A simply google of the history of Britain would inform people that indigenous Brits don’t really exist as they are proposing they do.

Whenever someone use the word "woke" as an insult, it is a giveaway. Kathy Burke had it right.

When people use the word 'indigenous' then you know that despite being the child of a recent immigrant, Tommy Robinson is not the type of person being talked about irradiating Luton...it's just a racist code word.

If by "indigenous" you mean white, well the white people of Luton haven't been decimated and certainly not irradiated. I think we would all have noticed such things happening. If you meant to type eradicated, that hasn't happened either.

Do you think calling out racism is leftist woke?

Can I ask you what aspects of your culture were eradicated? I am genuinely interested and wish to understand. Is it religion? Certain culural events? Please be specific. And how are Muslims responsible for this eradication? Again, please give a specific example. Or is it to do with optics? That there is a visible presence of Muslims wearing veils etc which seems to outnumber British people in conventionally European clothing?

Indeed. Its a clear sign their enthusiasm for their opinion has overrun their ability to support it. They've overreached in the debate, and are feeling out of their depth, so resort to labels they've heard, but typically can't define accurately when questioned.

Please don't put words in my mouth. Racism is deplorable. I’m just saying that the demographic on MN has changed and it is not so deeply left and woke anymore.

I am glad to hear that as a non woke lefty you will join in with calling out racism.

See there is more that unite us and can be done without name calling.

You don’t have to be woke to spot a violent misogynist thug.

This is really passive aggressive .

I think your statement is more aggressive than mine. But putting that aside I really would like an answer. All I ever hear are generalised terms like “left behind” etc and I would love for those statements to be unpacked as a way of understanding but no one ever tells you about specifics. It’s weird. We are in an era where people are used to spouting sound bites rather than dealing with reality. Even the politicians do it. In the meantime I await with interest for someone to answer the question and will ignore attacks.

What's your definition of 'deeply left and woke'? And where were you seeing all this on MN? Which boards and what sort of views do you think meet your definition?

I’m now even sadder he’s allowed to visit here. And that there seems to be so many of them.

I agree. It's frightening really! I don't know if he's trying to rebrand as a "changed man" but I doubt he is or can ever be given the sort of people he chooses to whip up into a frenzy and those he aligns with. But especially, some of his questionable movements lately, like travelling to Colombia. That "holiday" destination is also too much of a coincidence to be innocent, like the 88 bus thing.

It's about seeing the patterns - he's a slimy character.

Worth noting his increased Christianity too. He came out of prison wearing a rosary around his neck and posted photos of wooden crosses that were to be brought on his march.

I don't believe that this is genuine but positioning himself as part of a Christian country against the 'invading' Muslims which goes alongside other Crusade imagery. There were people flying the flag of the Knights Templar at his rally.

He could go to Mars, if Elon Musk's shuttle ever becomes reality.

It’s always been, until recently , deeply left and dare I say it, often woke. I have always noticed that if anyone else has had a differing view or opinion, they’d get pounced on.
Lately , however, things have changed on here.

But what is your definition of deeply left and woke?

This thread is about Tommy Robinson, what would you call the posters defending him?