No jobs for student nurses?

[EachandEveryone]

Have you experienced this? I can’t quote facts and figures I’m just hearing it from the horses mouth. I’m on the oncology ward being treated for the past two years. I am a nurse for twenty five years. I cannot believe the junior nurses or students qualifying that they can’t get the jobs they have trained for because the trusts have no vacancies as they’ve over employed from elsewhere spending millions. They got their numbers wrong, one fantastic student told me two thousand nurses qualify a year in London alone and there is nothing only bank. When I qualified we had the pick of jobs everyone wanted us. I feel so sad it’s such a waste.

like I said I know nothing outside of what I’m hearing on the wards I’m getting my excellent care from.

has anyone got any newly qualified nurses in their family? Is it better outside London?

What happened to all the money Boris said Brexit would save and go back to the NHS. How many millions a week/month were they going to get?

This happened when I qualified in 2007i had to look for jobs further away

Or who they're sleeping with 😂

Nurses, midwives, physios… I have friends with young people newly qualified in these roles and none have been able to get work. It’s like they’ve been sold a lie by doing those degrees.

Sorry, genuine question but how can this be the case when all I’ve heard is that the NHS is understaffed esp midwifery. It’s long been the reason women are given on labor wards when they don’t get the attention they need. Midwives are essential, I would think they would be in demand

There’s no money to pay them.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-referendum-result-nigel-farage-nhs-pledge-disowns-350-million-pounds-a7099906.html

We were paying around £13bn a year to be a member of the EU.

It’s costing us about £100bn a year not to be.

Happened to me 2005, never went back into proper nursing. Shocked at the time, but i've had a very successful career elsewhere. Looking back, it was all quite fortunate.

We shouldn't have to do bank?
A lot of people do crap job in 2025 despite having a education.

Genuine question, why are overseas hired nurses kept on when there are now locally trained nurses to fill roles? Surely the overseas hires are on fixed term visas?

When I graduated in 1996 the Trust had a recruitment freeze so none of us were able to get jobs where we trained. Luckily we were all able to get jobs elsewhere.

At the moment, recruitment freezes are extremely common. At my Trust, all vacancies are considered whether they are essential and if so are only advertised internally. Any post deemed non essential is not filled. We have massive savings to be made by April and reducing head count is one way to do this.

Many Trusts offered MARS-mutually agreed resignation scheme- but I’m not sure that the uptake has been high.

Our Trust bought loads of nurses over from India but underestimated how long it would take them to settle and be up to scratch. There was an overspend on bank as these nurses were not safe to be in the numbers. This is one of the reasons we are so overspent. It really is a scandal.

I keep hoping it will get better come April but I am not convinced any more. It is very sad. There are also less opportunities for development and promotion as no one is leaving.

My daughter will graduate next year as a Paramedic...she has been told it will be unlikely she will find a job....it is terrifying.

Quite, no one says it's BC there isn't the need, but BC there isn't the money.

I’m up north and a whole class from our local Uni didn’t get jobs apparently. But then are there no jobs, or are there only jobs that they don’t want. I didn’t get the job I wanted when I first qualified back in the 90’s, I had to take a job I didn’t want first.

Well because the NHS would collapse if it didn't recruit from abroad?

When I qualified as a radiographer in 2009 there was an absolute scramble for graduate jobs, with many graduates applying for the same role. I remember at the time being told these things happen in waves and it won’t be long before it swings back the other way - and they were right

No it wouldn't, there are lots of people already in the UK who can work in it.

Sorry I was actually being sarcastic. (Fail)

I'm not surprised but could you source the figures or explain, mainly so I can spread this news.

I voted remain.
I have no problem with immigrant workers, we lost alot of great European staff at Brexit.

My AHP employer has just recruited 10+ staff mainly to replace leavers/promoted. Most of these were NQ, a few years ago we couldn't recruit 10 BC they got better This time many more applications than places.
We are still chronically understaffed and use bank for overtime, i.e. cut price overtime rates.
I recently discovered Nhsp (the national NHS staff bank) is owned by the department of health. So hospitals are paying the DoH more for staff overtime than they pay the staff.

It's rubbish that NHS trainees can't get jobs.

We employ a huge number of over sea nurses and they are also subsidised, so it’s better to employ an over sea nurse than one here in the UK. There are only so many jobs so they should be doing to people who live here instead of overseas but that’s the way it goes here. Not enough people here in the UK want to do the nursing/caring roles in general I imagine, otherwise there wouldn’t have been a need to outsource it to people from across the seas I imagine.

This is very sad and worrying to read. DD is just embarking on a OT degree…

DD is in final year of physio degree, same situation. I always thought there would be plenty of jobs, but it seems not. Friends son has just passed his GP exams and can't a job anywhere in Manchester and the surrounding areas. It's ridiculous.

This isn’t true. 52% of newly post foundation doctors this year couldn’t secure a specialty training position so many were forced to go abroad to seek employment

It does go in waves. There is a current recruitment freeze. We have a glut of graduates who started post covid when the nursing profession left in large numbers. Those jobs were filled by recruiting abroad....which means 3 years later no jobs for qualifying staff.

Hang in and do anything to retain your valuable PIN. It will change again