Right wing cancel culture at it again.

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This really is a scary time for free speech.

Another example right wing hypocrisy when it comes to free speech:

Jimmy Kimmel Live! suspended indefinitely after host’s Charlie Kirk comments https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2025/sep/18/jimmy-kimmel-live-suspended-indefinitely-after-hosts-charlie-kirk-comments?CMP=share_btn_url

Yes why read it. I want to hear from people connected to the US not just the same old vitriol as below.

Exactly. There is no statement about Kirk himself from Kimmel’s monologue, nevermind a defamatory one. It’s all about the killer, those seeking to make claims about him and Trump. Not even a frivolous claim could be bought on that basis.

Making up a claim the children and parents of a mass school shooting are lying about it and actually crisis actors is self evidently going to be defamatory. Just a daft comparison.

Repealing the First Amendment one piece at a time.....

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cr4qe0rz2zvo

OK, so to you free speech equals not being allowed to condone illegal acts. So saying "People routinely drive at 75mph on the motorway, it's not that big of a deal" should mean I get punished. Or "You should use Handbrake to rip your DVDs and save them on your PC". Or "While it's technically illegal to be drunk in a pub you don't have to worry about it." Straight to jail for me I guess.

How unmistakably authoritarian of you.

Here is an article that explains the hypocrisy (and is not from a left wing perspective)
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-15112537/How-disturbing-Right-suddenly-cancelling-political-opponents-gusto-Left.html

The evidence on the masks was mixed about whether they helped avoid catching covid but was pretty clear in the main for how they helped reduced those with covid spreading it more widely ie using them helped others, not yourself per se.

Coverage is not always 100% ie vaccines do not always prevent the wholesale catching the disease but do reduce the severity of the disease when exposed. Like the covid vaccine did.

The question about your citizenship was because of mentioning the Democrats several times.

In theory yes, but in practice, no you will not go to jail for condoning people driving at 75 mph.

But condoning murder is serious and should not be allowed otherwise we will have anarchy (and no politicians). If that is the world you want to live in then fine, but I don't.

The data makes for interesting reading any, have put it into a graph for easier reading. This excludes 9/11.

Who's you?

Besides, Mumsnet hosted those of us who believed in the reality of biological sex when Reddit et al wouldn’t. Is that so wrong?

Then why so angrily hostile? Like, Mumsnet was a useful refuge when (American) sites wouldn't let you talk about gender issues but you hate with a passion British mumsenetts who might have a difference of opinion to you on any topic? You just seem really angry, but I don't think posters on here, even ones with different viewpoints, are the ones who hurt you. I don't think Jimmy Kimmel is either. Go on Reddit and complain there if they were the problem. Or scream into the wind on here. It's a free country.

I think it's possible you have missed my point. Murder is illegal but celebrating the death of someone who has been murdered is not. We can agree it's an unpleasant thing to do but as I said defending someone's right to say something we don't like is the real test of commitment to free speech.

It's the desire to censor people who say offensive or unpalatable things which has paved the way for governments to start chipping away at free speech. It's why Jimmy Kimmel's show has been taken off air.

People are allowed to be upset or offended by someone's words but that should not lead us towards censorship. I think consequences for calls to commit violence where there are the means and proximity for it to be acted upon are reasonable limits.

But he’s not going to prison, is he? His show has been taken off the air. Like all the times people the left didn’t approve of were “cancelled”. I think cancel culture is pretty awful whoever it happens to but as pp said he was spreading inflammatory misinformation, possibly deliberately. Can’t say I have all that much sympathy. Probably about the same amount as he and his chums have for the many people cancelled by the left. Maybe they will now acquire a renewed respect for the concept of freedom of speech and expression.

This.

If you don’t get to ask for a truce then what is the end point of that?

It was the other poster who angrily told @RingoJuiceto stop posting, did you mean that poster?

I personally think so.

Well she posted to me "you" were happy with cancelling people with GC views so I assumed she meant me. And there have been lots of generic posts written on this thread to "the left" or "hah hah you people know what it's like now"

Mumsnet,unlike the UK and the real world genuinely is "open borders" long may it continue. But it is sort of ironic that a poster who said they came on here because other websites wouldn't let them post is then lambasting people on here for being intolerant. Especially when they are also, apparently, an immigrant to the UK who seems to harbour real antipathy towards British people with even slightly different opinions/values to her own. I think she has every right to say what she wants. But it is ironic that it's a real genuine example of the phenomenon some people complain about (project onto)of immigrants from other countries not respecting the existing culture. Im an soft hearted free speech lefty. I don't want her to stop posting or leave. I just think she's being very hypocritical.

Threats of violence (murder) to stop people speaking is in a whole other league. I actually think calling it "Cancel culture" trivialises it a lot. We already have laws against that and I think the police massively failed to get a grip there.
The situation with Jimmy Kimmel isn't the same. But it is also chilling in a different way and a bad sign.

He looks fine enough to potter around in his garden or play a round of golf. Not so fine to be running a country of millions of people.

Look at the title of this thread. Right wing cancel culture? Seems a projection. We have endured the left cancelling us for years. Now that the pendulum has swung the other way, you (not YOU but the left), suddenly find a newfound respect for free speech?

Yeah, I’m not falling for that. Where was the left during Covid? Where were they when women were getting fired for stating biological facts?

Personally?

during Covid I was supporting anyone who’s views were rooted in scientific fact, statistics, and had the populations best interest at heart.

When women were fired for stating biological facts I was contributing to their legal funds and supporting their right to free speech.

i was certainly not campaigning to “cancel” anyone. I was not getting people fired for opinions on social media.

The fact remains, in the UK you can, as a legal immigrant, criticise the government,.criticise government policy. I, if I was an immigrant to the US would not have that right. I would, under the current (republican) administration's policies, be vulnerable to having my visa removed. Jimmy Kimmel as a left wing comedian argued against cancel culture, and in favour of people like Joe Rogan right to talk. You, as a republican voter do not believe Jimmy Kimmel should have that right (although apparently Joe Rogan does. Which shows consistency)

I completely agree that many on the left have been happy to cancel speech when it suited them. But it isn't everyone on the left. And it definitely isn't only people on the left. It's hypocrisy to complain about left wing cancel culture and then glorify in doing exactly the same. Or to claim moral superiority

You consider Joe Rogan right wing? He’s libertarian at best. If he’s right wing,
I guess I’m on the moon 😆

Tbh I’m not sure how much the FCC pressured ABC versus whether they made a business decision at the end of the day. I don’t necessarily want to see him canceled, I just don’t really care to defend him.

No, but he's an example of someone previously "cancelled," who is now also arguing against the cancellation of someone else. Just as Jimmy Kimmel (despite disagreeing with him) argued against his cancellation 3 years ago. It's an example of consistency.

Edited to put cancelled in air quotes as he wasn't shoved of Spotify. But some people thought he should be. Versus Kimmel who actually was deplatformed.

To make a point, under the constitution you do have the right to free speech. Immigrant or not.

there have been SC cases confirming that. The right to free speech under the constitution is not restricted to US citizens alone.

the issue is Trump and ICE are using their power to revoke visas, incarcerate or deport if anyone speaks up against their policies. They are also trying to get due process removed so you can’t even bring a case.