Thread 33 Starmer - Gerst Monath

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Why am I not surprised the complaining parent is a former Tory councillor and is also using the same kind of language currently so popular with the MAGA book banning brigade...

Farquharson sounds like a controlling father regarding his daughters.

I know it's early days, but Europe are doing well in the Ryder Cup.

I know! 3 points on the board already. Hopefully Macintyre and Hovland can pull the last match back.

I have no interest in golf but go Europe!

They'd have problems if they taught Film Studies. It's a GCSE set text. And actually there was lots of backlash against it from Black critics , for example, the Black published LA Sentinel as it's very pro nuclear family, presents meritocracy as achievable to all, turns the real villainy into black on black crime and sanitises many issues, suggesting many black people live chaotic , fragmented lives.

Totally agree.

They went in too far and too fast.

They can’t keep this going for 3-4 more years and they know it. Especially because of the tech deals and the fact Labour are taking action (whether you agree with the action or not).

I think they are afraid Starmer will sort immigration out and the economy out and that they then have literally nothing to shout about. When that happen they are as irrelevant as the Tory’s currently are.

I couldn’t agree more. They’ve peaked too soon. By the time of the next general election they will have a four year track record of running councils to illustrate just how unsuited to government they are. And that’s always assuming that Farage hasn’t got bored by then.

Also maybe the Temu Trump is worried there will be more Russian related or other scandals seeping out? Plenty of skeketons rattling around in lots of closets, I bet.

Why was @BIWI deleted? Are we being policed by lurkers again?

Saw a few flags up Birmingham way today. Plus in Warwickshire a "stop the boats" sign on a bridge. Dickheads.

I was deleted - I assume - because I called another poster (who I didn’t name*) ignorant.

Which clearly they are!

*although it was obvious who it was as I referenced the specific thread.

It's possible the backers simply weren't aware/didn't understand how the UK election process works. If you have been trained on the US system - with it's constitutional dates - then trying to grapple with the nuances of the UK system will easily upset even the most sophisticated "AI" engine.

And no amount of Farright & Co. trying to correct the model would really affect the outcome.

It's also entirely possible that the backers were sold a pup from the off and Farright is simply milking them with fuck all intention of actually delivering an election win. This could explain some Reform tensions.

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I can think of a few words to describe him that would give him conniptions.

I’m hoping Reform has peaked too soon - this was the debate on the Iain Dale programme I (sadly) caught a bit of - I heard 2 callers, 1 for Frog, 1 against. There’s signs things are picking up re challenging him - I don’t think the U.K. likes someone doing ‘too well’ so maybe he’s open to put downs now - the swan, the paracetamol, costing his ideas - he’s had enough rope to do the rest for himself.
I don’t think he could be a PM, but I think he knows that as well actually- but maybe he could get another leader in at some point, though like Trump he is the attraction (though I really really cannot fathom this)
Musk may back Advance but I’m not sure U.K. would go that far in the ballot box.
We’ve nearly 4 more years - even nige can’t keep this bubbling resentment going that long, plus he gets bored easily - labour are doing stuff re migration, and other actually ok stuff. If Tories went back to being Tories then many would fall back on main parties at the box I think (though Brexit!)
I don’t know why that GE thread was started - I don’t know if Farage (or Tommeh) want to force an election but I’d say they had an incredibly difficult mountain to climb to get that and at least Frog must recognise this. It would be destabilising to even have an election and massively destabilising for the U.K. to have the lunatics running the asylum fgs.

I don’t think it is ignorance.
I think its a determined effort to spin.

Mid terms next year and the next presidential election is 2028, a year earlier than the UK. The 🍊 will be 82 then.

The irony of my post being deleted is two-fold.

First, taken at face value, it was ignorance and the poster admitted as such, that they didn’t know anything about Reform’s policies, other than the issue of immigration.

And second, I also stated that I was taking the post at face value, rather than accusing the poster of being a goady fucker!

It's not been good for Reform these last few days, their swans and paracetamol comments widely ridiculed, massive backlash against their IRL deportations plan and now Nige's mate admitting to Russia propoganda bribes

We’ve nearly 4 more years - even nige can’t keep this bubbling resentment going that long,

That's four years to dig up a lot more dirt.

Isn't it weird that "hackers" can steal vulnerable childrens data, but never see, to be able to get any dirt on grifters like Farright and co ? Or is it just that they get paid off immediately with some of that dodgy money ?

Did anyone else catch an agenda item from the Man of the People ? Regarding getting the BoE to stop regulating the sucker magnet that begins with "c" (much like Farright) and ends in "o" ?

It really does feel like someone is trying to just run the US app on the UK operating system. And it's throwing up all sorts of errors.

Imagine trying to run an Apple iOS app on a Google Android device.

If Farrights experience with "AI" is anything like mine he must have the patience of a saint and probably deserves to be PM.

How to fight back against the noise of Farright ... just make shit up like he does.

(Credit to for bringing this to my attention)

The conviction that there will be a GE in the next year is nothing new. It's been a recurring obsession of some of our regular visitors.

I can recall it building under Brown. I still think had he called an election (as Sunak should have) he would have won. Maybe with a small majority, but enough to carry us on till 2013. Which would have possibly prevented the Brexit disaster.

I agree. Brown got cold feet. It is such a shame that he did so.

It's not a golden rule, but generally a new broom seems to be given a tiniest bit of goodwill before hostilities resume. It's worth seizing that and using it to wangle your own mandate.

Otherwise you will forever be vulnerable to the charge that "no one voted for you" which emboldens arsey backbenchers and can taint public debate (regardless of the nuances of our constitution).

All of which is irrelevant in the case of one of the most stable governments ever to rule the UK.