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How to actually preserve British culture and values?

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constantcycle · 13/09/2025 19:24

Seeing all of the flag-flying and marches in the name of "preserving British culture" and "promoting British values," I was wondering if anyone has any advice on how to actually do these things rather than stoking division and hatred?

I already support museums, visit the National Trust sites and national parks whenever I can, and buy from local businesses as much as possible. I love listening to British music and attending events with local artists. I do my best to buy local produce, and I love a good farm shop when I can afford them! I also take lessons in my local language, one of the several dying British languages people are doing their best to conserve. I'm thinking maybe I should find some volunteering opportunities too.

Is there anything more I could be doing, or that others may not have considered? I'd love to see this sudden surge in patriotism used for the good of British society and all of the diverse communities within it!

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KatSlayMoon · 14/09/2025 16:31

ThreePears · 14/09/2025 16:20

It wasn't you I was having the conversation with.

Again. This is a discussion forum. You are not texting your mate. Anybody can respond to your posts-it’s kind of the point.

CurlewKate · 14/09/2025 16:35

2dogsandabudgie · 14/09/2025 14:55

Well I don't know where in the UK you live but I would imagine that some of your views of English/British culture and traditions would overlap with mine. For example Bonfire Night and Guy Fawkes. Most people would say the English love drinking tea and moaning about the weather. Then you have literature culture, ie Shakespeare, Charles Dickens, Oscar Wilde, Beatrix Potter etc.

Personally, I hate Guy Fawkes night /Bonfire Night. Me because of the noise and distress to animals-some people I know because it represents persecution of Catholics. And I consider literature belongs to the world.

2dogsandabudgie · 14/09/2025 16:45

CurlewKate · 14/09/2025 16:35

Personally, I hate Guy Fawkes night /Bonfire Night. Me because of the noise and distress to animals-some people I know because it represents persecution of Catholics. And I consider literature belongs to the world.

Well yes, but those great authors were English and have had an influence worldwide which is something to be proud of.

It doesn't matter whether you don't like Bonfire Night, I don't particularly like it myself, mainly because my dogs hate it and I don't like standing around in the cold. I used to take my kids to a display when they were younger as it is tradition and they loved it.

ThreePears · 14/09/2025 18:02

Someone else posted some comments and I said they had a point. If you want to have a discussion about those comments, then surely the person you need to be having the discussion with is them. They were the one who clearly had an opinion on the matter, and would presumably be happy to discuss it with you.

Now, if you will excuse me, I'm outta here.

charliehungerford · 14/09/2025 18:41

DontGoJasonWaterfalls · 14/09/2025 15:49

Let's start with the English moving to Wales, refusing to learn our language and then complaining about road signs.

Once that's dealt with and we're all singing from the same hymn sheet, then we can look at how people from outside the UK integrate.

Only 27% of the Welsh population speak Welsh, so it’s not just ‘people from England’ refusing to learn it. It’s clear a large percentage of the indigenous population don’t bother either.

Crikeyalmighty · 14/09/2025 18:58

@MoominMai personally I would be happy for 10 like yourself to replace all of the bulging belly, tattooed , aggressive and xenophobic arses that dominate these marches . Would be more than happy if the US would do some swaps, they can go and eat crap all day long, wear MAGA hats and have guns and we can have 10 ‘desparate to leave US’ in exchange . I’m sorry a certain section make you feel so unwelcome, I am white British but politically ‘in the middle’ went back to my original home town ( mining community last year’ and realised I simply don’t fit in the land where Lee Anderson is a ‘ top bloke’ -

Emori · 14/09/2025 21:30

rickyrickygrimes · 14/09/2025 10:30

Sure, we've still got tartan and whisky and Gaelic and mountains and poetry and literature and castles and left-of-centre politicians and kilts and rugby etc etc and whatever else you class as 'Scottish culture'.

What my 80 yr old FIL, living in Scotland all his life, doesn't have is any Scottish neighbours any more. Where he lives - not the poshest part of town - the local population has steadily changed, and now virtually all his neighbours are Indian / Pakistani / Nigerian. The 'Scotland' that they produce in the way they dress, speak, cook, behave, present themselves, the one that he experiences every day, is not a Scotland that he recognises or feels comfortable in. His sense of place is being severely undermined, he feels isolated in his own country, his own place where he grew up. He can't easily have a joke or a chat with them as they either don't speak English, or they can't understand his accent so he gives up. He's not particularly cultured, but he's as Scottish as they come.

The history of immigration in Scotland is really interesting. West of Scotland has had successive waves of immigration since the 1800s on a scale relative to the native population not seen outside of London, compared to the rest of the UK. Many of us are products of that first wave of Irish/Italian mishmash escaping various famines and the second wave of skilled craftsmen from India and Pakistan escaping partition.

I think a lot of the reason these guys found the Scots friendly was to do with food - a shared love of spicy condiments, carbs and deep frying everything. This of course finds its finest expression in such fusion delicacies as haggis pakora.

Then you have the East, with all the Nordics and English (English as far as Edinburgh anyway lol). God knows what's going on there but they've been moving in a long time.

Sure your average 80 yo would be used to new people popping up by now. It's certainly been happening throughout the whole of his lifetime.

Emori · 14/09/2025 21:32

CurlewKate · 14/09/2025 16:35

Personally, I hate Guy Fawkes night /Bonfire Night. Me because of the noise and distress to animals-some people I know because it represents persecution of Catholics. And I consider literature belongs to the world.

Moaning about fireworks has become so common over the past 20 years that it's arguably a national tradition in itself.

LBFseBrom · 15/09/2025 17:24

Emori · 14/09/2025 21:30

The history of immigration in Scotland is really interesting. West of Scotland has had successive waves of immigration since the 1800s on a scale relative to the native population not seen outside of London, compared to the rest of the UK. Many of us are products of that first wave of Irish/Italian mishmash escaping various famines and the second wave of skilled craftsmen from India and Pakistan escaping partition.

I think a lot of the reason these guys found the Scots friendly was to do with food - a shared love of spicy condiments, carbs and deep frying everything. This of course finds its finest expression in such fusion delicacies as haggis pakora.

Then you have the East, with all the Nordics and English (English as far as Edinburgh anyway lol). God knows what's going on there but they've been moving in a long time.

Sure your average 80 yo would be used to new people popping up by now. It's certainly been happening throughout the whole of his lifetime.

Scotland is known for being egalitarian and if someone is born there, they are a Scot regardless of ethnicity. What's more they are very Scottish regardless of how they live at home with other cultural influences.

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