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I’ve been accused of harassment following a miscarriage

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Slaygria · 10/09/2025 16:18

This is probably outing but I need advice and both ACAS and pregnant and screwed are closed today. Five weeks ago, I had a miscarriage at 8 weeks (no fetal pole). I didn’t tell anyone but close family and I was told to wait to see if I bled naturally or if not they’d arrange a D and C. Days later, I bled lightly and two weeks later I had 24 hours of awful heavy bleeding, so heavy an ambulance was called. I was soaking both towels and pads and needed a transfusion. This happened over a weekend. I went to hospital and they confirmed miscarriage was complete but also found an ovarian cyst on my left ovary.

I work in a high paced sales environment where targets and league tables are everything. Annual leave is looked down on as a hindrance and those on sick leave are talked about behind their back. A man recently lost his mum and is taking time and everyone is complaining about covering for him for example and mocking his numbers are low.

So with this in mind, despite needing time I had one day off sick on the Monday. I needed more really but didn’t take it out of risk of the above. It felt worse to be off than it did to go in. I did however want it marked as pregnancy related leave because it was due to miscarriage. One day off. Well, the past 48 hours returning have been hell. My manager insisted I send through future appointments plus documentation if I had it confirming miscarriage.

I only had my 111 report and go NHS log. So sent this over even though it felt personal and I didn’t want to. My manager also said it was confusing as I also had an ovarian cyst on my log and was it even a miscarriage, how could I be sure.

He then refused to accept my 111 log and gp log as “prognosis” so asked if I had anything else. I then sent a very firm reply saying enough is enough, I had one day off and it’s intimate and private and I don’t feel comfortable sharing anything else. My 111 reports already said about heavy vaginal bleeding and pregnancy loss and it’s embarrassing. He then said fair enough if that’s all you’ve got and I’m only doing it to give you support (didn’t feel like that). He said I don’t need proof just a prognosis?!

Later that evening, I also sent one email outlining the reasons why I felt I needed to come back early (pressure in the team, comments made about others on sick), it was professional and polite and I even got DP (Police Officer) to read and he said it was fine! I also mentioned I’d felt being asked for so much information had taken a toll on my mental health the past day when I should be focused on returning to work. Manager never replied and has now reported me to HR/Safeguarding for “harassment”. I’ve been asked to go to a meeting on Friday and told I can bring representation.

I just feel broken on this. He’s also messaging me 4 times on teams today about work and I’ve replied as normal and polite. I can’t see where I’ve harassed but I also feel exhausted and like I shouldn’t even be replying now. Also if he feels so harassed why is he still engaging with me?

I don’t know where to begin. I’m feeling sad about my miscarriage, I returned on the basis that I thought I could manage and would be less stressed than having time off.

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mumofoneAloneandwell · 10/09/2025 16:29

Honestly girl, id resign. It just sounds like a bloody awful work environment

I am sorry for your loss 🥺❤️

mylittlekomododragon · 10/09/2025 16:30

Honestly, I would go off sick. Their behaviour is appalling and realistically you have a target on your back now from that manager. Get advice from ACAS and Pregnant and Screwed, but seriously consider looking for a new job.

13SixWeetabix · 10/09/2025 16:32

I agree, go off sick, then find a new job. No job is worth putting up with that level of bullshit.
I'm so sorry for the miscarriage, take some time to look after yourself. x

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SallySuperTrooper · 10/09/2025 16:32

That's Absolutely awful and I couldn't cope in that environment, it's barbaric.

Shutupkeith · 10/09/2025 16:33

Fuck me that is just horrific. Absolutely get signed off sick if you can afford it and then ring ACAS when you can. They have treated you appallingly. I am very sorry for your loss it is a hard thing to go through.

SallySuperTrooper · 10/09/2025 16:33

Meant to put.... how on earth does the twat manager define harrassment?!

dodobedo · 10/09/2025 16:34

Condolences on your miscarriage, I appreciate that must have been extremely hurtful. Did you message him out of work hours?

Fitzcarraldo353 · 10/09/2025 16:34

mylittlekomododragon · 10/09/2025 16:30

Honestly, I would go off sick. Their behaviour is appalling and realistically you have a target on your back now from that manager. Get advice from ACAS and Pregnant and Screwed, but seriously consider looking for a new job.

I'd echo this. You have now identified yourself as someone likely to get pregnant so they're looking to get rid of you. I realise how insensitive that sounds and obviously it's not my view. They're total assholes.

I'm so sorry for your loss and the awful experience of it. It must have been very frightening as well as heartbreaking. Please do look after yourself.

Fitzcarraldo353 · 10/09/2025 16:35

dodobedo · 10/09/2025 16:34

Condolences on your miscarriage, I appreciate that must have been extremely hurtful. Did you message him out of work hours?

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Don't be so ridiculous. Sending a single email outside office hours is not harassment. No one is making him read it outside of office hours for a start.

dodobedo · 10/09/2025 16:36

Fitzcarraldo353 · 10/09/2025 16:35

Don't be so ridiculous. Sending a single email outside office hours is not harassment. No one is making him read it outside of office hours for a start.

Yes I got that after reading back my message and amended it. Apologies to the OP.

Fitzcarraldo353 · 10/09/2025 16:44

dodobedo · 10/09/2025 16:36

Yes I got that after reading back my message and amended it. Apologies to the OP.

No worries. I clearly responded before you'd edited it.

ICanBuyMyselfFlowers25 · 10/09/2025 16:56

Get signed off for as long as possible. Look for a new job whislt off.
Sorry you've been through so much.

Ponderingwindow · 10/09/2025 16:57

if You are reporting accurately, I suspect your manager has gone on the offensive to try to cover themselves from the valid complaints you made in your email.

If you can get someone to go the HR meeting with you, I would. With any luck, HR will see this situation clearly. Their main goal is to reduce liability for the company. Which do you think exposes the company to more liability, your email or a systematic unhealthy workplace culture fostered by your manager?

If they don’t see the real situation, sadly, you do face an uphill battle and have to decide how hard to fight. Give them a chance though.

Teenytwo · 10/09/2025 17:00

what the fuck!? How long have you worked there? I agree with the comment about highlighting yourself as wanting to get pregnant and having a target on your back. I’m wondering if you could quit and then argue it as bullied out.

Summerhillsquare · 10/09/2025 17:01

That is awful. I would say sex discrimiation - do they hassle male employees in that way?!

Dozer · 10/09/2025 17:01

Very sorry this happened to you. I once experienced similar, but without the accusation.

I would go to the meeting, with a trusted colleague if you have one share the evidence of his and your communications and state that his handling of the situation was insensitive at best and your response was measured and appropriate.

I wouldn’t go off sick or quit until I had another job lined up, since then you’re paying the price for his shitness.

Slaygria · 10/09/2025 17:05

Thanks for all your replies. I currently live alone and have a lot of bills £1900 a month and don’t get sick pay, only statutory which is why I was also hesitant to be off or leave! Literally all I said! Hopefully they’ll let me go off on full leave while they investigate.

I’ve been accused of harassment following a miscarriage
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Dozer · 10/09/2025 17:06

That message is fine.

Rallentanda · 10/09/2025 17:06

So sorry about your miscarriage. I’ve had one where I haemorrhaged and needed a transfusion and I was weak for quite a while. I’d imagine you need quite a bit more rest. Can you see your gp and get signed off?

what an awful person to have to deal with. I hope his balls drop off.

CoffeeFluff · 10/09/2025 17:10

HR Director here. I would go off on stress leave and make a case for discrimination/bullying on the basis of what’s happened. Your case is that you were actually the one being harassed, and the fact disciplinary action is being upheld against you whilst you are dealing with trauma is unbelievable. Please sit it out and wait for a Settlement Agreement so that you leave with some money. They’re looking at a LOT in tribunal costs otherwise

Maddy70 · 10/09/2025 17:15

Noone has the right to see your medical records except you. I would raise a grievance. You may have legal cover on your home insurance. Contact them and get a solicitors letter. You are being bullied and harassed not the other way round

Friendlygingercat · 10/09/2025 17:31

Legally harassment is unwanted conduct that has the purpose or effect of violating a person's dignity or creating an intimidating, hostile, degrading, humiliating, or offensive environment. Your boss harassed you by forcing you to reveal intimate personal medical details at a time when you were vulnerable after your miscarriage. Under the Equality Act 2010. This behavior was unlawful because it was related to a protected characteristic (pregnancy). I would raise a grievance against your boss and make a counter claim of harassment for breach of the Act. The entire atmosphere in your place of work sounds toxic with its attituide towards sickness and disability. Take legal advice from ACAS but if you play your cards right you may be able to resign with a settlement by threatening to take them to a tribunal.

Slaygria · 10/09/2025 17:34

He came back and said he wasn’t asking for proof but prognosis! But wouldn’t accept my proof as prognosis

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Buffypaws · 10/09/2025 17:39

Friendlygingercat · 10/09/2025 17:31

Legally harassment is unwanted conduct that has the purpose or effect of violating a person's dignity or creating an intimidating, hostile, degrading, humiliating, or offensive environment. Your boss harassed you by forcing you to reveal intimate personal medical details at a time when you were vulnerable after your miscarriage. Under the Equality Act 2010. This behavior was unlawful because it was related to a protected characteristic (pregnancy). I would raise a grievance against your boss and make a counter claim of harassment for breach of the Act. The entire atmosphere in your place of work sounds toxic with its attituide towards sickness and disability. Take legal advice from ACAS but if you play your cards right you may be able to resign with a settlement by threatening to take them to a tribunal.

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Agree you should try to do this. He’s in the wrong, pregnancy is a PC and HR will be well aware. Tribunal would be stressful so resigning with settlement seems like the best outcome.

AzureCats · 10/09/2025 17:42

He's an idiot. Nobody gets prognosis for most conditions until it gets critical. Has he never interacted with the NHS?!
You could tell him you're waiting on another appointment for the cyst and the waiting list is long, and in the meantime you're fit to work. Can't see how that wouldn't be the truth.

You only took one day off goodness sake. Really feel for you. Poor you experiencing a miscarriage, discovering a cyst and then your boss being a jackass for one day's absence.

Just go into the meeting with all the facts. Have your own copies of messages and emails ready to show as evidence.