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I’ve been accused of harassment following a miscarriage

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Slaygria · 10/09/2025 16:18

This is probably outing but I need advice and both ACAS and pregnant and screwed are closed today. Five weeks ago, I had a miscarriage at 8 weeks (no fetal pole). I didn’t tell anyone but close family and I was told to wait to see if I bled naturally or if not they’d arrange a D and C. Days later, I bled lightly and two weeks later I had 24 hours of awful heavy bleeding, so heavy an ambulance was called. I was soaking both towels and pads and needed a transfusion. This happened over a weekend. I went to hospital and they confirmed miscarriage was complete but also found an ovarian cyst on my left ovary.

I work in a high paced sales environment where targets and league tables are everything. Annual leave is looked down on as a hindrance and those on sick leave are talked about behind their back. A man recently lost his mum and is taking time and everyone is complaining about covering for him for example and mocking his numbers are low.

So with this in mind, despite needing time I had one day off sick on the Monday. I needed more really but didn’t take it out of risk of the above. It felt worse to be off than it did to go in. I did however want it marked as pregnancy related leave because it was due to miscarriage. One day off. Well, the past 48 hours returning have been hell. My manager insisted I send through future appointments plus documentation if I had it confirming miscarriage.

I only had my 111 report and go NHS log. So sent this over even though it felt personal and I didn’t want to. My manager also said it was confusing as I also had an ovarian cyst on my log and was it even a miscarriage, how could I be sure.

He then refused to accept my 111 log and gp log as “prognosis” so asked if I had anything else. I then sent a very firm reply saying enough is enough, I had one day off and it’s intimate and private and I don’t feel comfortable sharing anything else. My 111 reports already said about heavy vaginal bleeding and pregnancy loss and it’s embarrassing. He then said fair enough if that’s all you’ve got and I’m only doing it to give you support (didn’t feel like that). He said I don’t need proof just a prognosis?!

Later that evening, I also sent one email outlining the reasons why I felt I needed to come back early (pressure in the team, comments made about others on sick), it was professional and polite and I even got DP (Police Officer) to read and he said it was fine! I also mentioned I’d felt being asked for so much information had taken a toll on my mental health the past day when I should be focused on returning to work. Manager never replied and has now reported me to HR/Safeguarding for “harassment”. I’ve been asked to go to a meeting on Friday and told I can bring representation.

I just feel broken on this. He’s also messaging me 4 times on teams today about work and I’ve replied as normal and polite. I can’t see where I’ve harassed but I also feel exhausted and like I shouldn’t even be replying now. Also if he feels so harassed why is he still engaging with me?

I don’t know where to begin. I’m feeling sad about my miscarriage, I returned on the basis that I thought I could manage and would be less stressed than having time off.

OP posts:
Kimura · 15/10/2025 15:39

He's fucked up badly here and - assuming you're not leaving out critical info - you have a very strong case. Speak to ACAS (or Union Rep if you have one) ASAP and don't go to any meeting unaccompanied.

I wish you well.

idri · 15/10/2025 15:43

Jesus. Thank god you’ve resigned. What sort of workplace does that?!? I’ve never heard of anywhere that bad. Crikey.

Glad you’re out of there.

Imlyingandthatsthetruth · 15/10/2025 15:49

Well even without the issues that forced your hand, that environment sounds like the most toxic working situation imaginable. Unless you were earning a fortune I can't see why you would want to be there, so congratulations on getting out, but of course the circumstances are horrible. Hope things pick up for you.

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Katiesaidthat · 15/10/2025 15:51

Slaygria · 10/09/2025 16:18

This is probably outing but I need advice and both ACAS and pregnant and screwed are closed today. Five weeks ago, I had a miscarriage at 8 weeks (no fetal pole). I didn’t tell anyone but close family and I was told to wait to see if I bled naturally or if not they’d arrange a D and C. Days later, I bled lightly and two weeks later I had 24 hours of awful heavy bleeding, so heavy an ambulance was called. I was soaking both towels and pads and needed a transfusion. This happened over a weekend. I went to hospital and they confirmed miscarriage was complete but also found an ovarian cyst on my left ovary.

I work in a high paced sales environment where targets and league tables are everything. Annual leave is looked down on as a hindrance and those on sick leave are talked about behind their back. A man recently lost his mum and is taking time and everyone is complaining about covering for him for example and mocking his numbers are low.

So with this in mind, despite needing time I had one day off sick on the Monday. I needed more really but didn’t take it out of risk of the above. It felt worse to be off than it did to go in. I did however want it marked as pregnancy related leave because it was due to miscarriage. One day off. Well, the past 48 hours returning have been hell. My manager insisted I send through future appointments plus documentation if I had it confirming miscarriage.

I only had my 111 report and go NHS log. So sent this over even though it felt personal and I didn’t want to. My manager also said it was confusing as I also had an ovarian cyst on my log and was it even a miscarriage, how could I be sure.

He then refused to accept my 111 log and gp log as “prognosis” so asked if I had anything else. I then sent a very firm reply saying enough is enough, I had one day off and it’s intimate and private and I don’t feel comfortable sharing anything else. My 111 reports already said about heavy vaginal bleeding and pregnancy loss and it’s embarrassing. He then said fair enough if that’s all you’ve got and I’m only doing it to give you support (didn’t feel like that). He said I don’t need proof just a prognosis?!

Later that evening, I also sent one email outlining the reasons why I felt I needed to come back early (pressure in the team, comments made about others on sick), it was professional and polite and I even got DP (Police Officer) to read and he said it was fine! I also mentioned I’d felt being asked for so much information had taken a toll on my mental health the past day when I should be focused on returning to work. Manager never replied and has now reported me to HR/Safeguarding for “harassment”. I’ve been asked to go to a meeting on Friday and told I can bring representation.

I just feel broken on this. He’s also messaging me 4 times on teams today about work and I’ve replied as normal and polite. I can’t see where I’ve harassed but I also feel exhausted and like I shouldn’t even be replying now. Also if he feels so harassed why is he still engaging with me?

I don’t know where to begin. I’m feeling sad about my miscarriage, I returned on the basis that I thought I could manage and would be less stressed than having time off.

I am in Spain, but I am really shocked you have to provide your diagnosis and personal medical information to your workplace? I have had operations, where I have been off three months and what my workplace get are "svrt attended medical appointment at such and such a hospital, on this date" and the confirmation of my "off sick" certificates never include my illness just info needed for the Social Security to activate the "off" situation. That is strictly personal and subject to the Data Protections Law. I am horrified this is allowed in Britain.

Fundays12 · 15/10/2025 15:56

Have you contacted acas? If your UK based please do so. This is abysmal treatment of you and potential serial harassment.

IwouldlikeanewTV · 15/10/2025 16:00

Your house insurance may have legal aid to financially assist you. Good luck.

NoisyMonster678 · 15/10/2025 16:07

Your idiot manager is the safeguarding concern here OP, not you.

Safeguarding policies are there to protect you and not the clueless excuse for a manager......if he had a brain, he would be dangerous.

It was not a headache you were off work with, you were very seriously ill and needed a transfusion .

Make sure HR are aware of this, get into a union asap and only attend the meeting with a union rep present.

There are orotected characteristics of the Equality act

I am so sorry for your loss, hope things improve and I have pasted some info below I hope you may find helpful

Miscarriage itself is not explicitly listed as one of the nine protected characteristics under the Equality Act 2010.
However, the Act includes Pregnancy and Maternity as a protected characteristic, and this characteristic does provide protection in cases involving miscarriage in the context of employment.
Here is a breakdown of how it applies:

  • Protected Characteristic: The protected characteristic is Pregnancy and Maternity.
  • Protection Period: For a woman who has a miscarriage (which is a loss before 24 weeks of pregnancy), protection from unfavourable treatment in the workplace continues for two weeks after the end of the pregnancy.
  • Pregnancy-Related Illness: If a woman takes time off work due to an illness suffered as a result of the miscarriage, this is generally considered a pregnancy-related illness. Unfavourable treatment because of a pregnancy-related illness or related time off is considered discrimination under the 'Pregnancy and Maternity' characteristic.
In summary: While "miscarriage" is not a characteristic, discrimination because of a miscarriage or related illness is covered under the protected characteristic of Pregnancy and Maternity for a specific period of time.
Mix56 · 15/10/2025 16:42

Ponderingwindow · 10/09/2025 16:57

if You are reporting accurately, I suspect your manager has gone on the offensive to try to cover themselves from the valid complaints you made in your email.

If you can get someone to go the HR meeting with you, I would. With any luck, HR will see this situation clearly. Their main goal is to reduce liability for the company. Which do you think exposes the company to more liability, your email or a systematic unhealthy workplace culture fostered by your manager?

If they don’t see the real situation, sadly, you do face an uphill battle and have to decide how hard to fight. Give them a chance though.

This is what I was coming on to say.
1 email is not harassment. if anything its the other way around. he knows it & is attempting to cover his tracks

ZiaMcnab · 15/10/2025 16:53

Slaygria · 15/10/2025 14:59

Hi everyone, I wanted to update and let you all know I resigned and have submitted a case for harassment and discrimination. The harassment case my manager had against me was not upheld. They found no harassment my side.

my key focus points are

  1. i was repeatedly asked for “prognosis” even though I didn’t feel comfortable and was within the 7 day certification at the time
  2. i I was asked and questioned if miscarriage had even happened
  3. i I wasn’t told about the policies related to miscarriage and had to fight for it to be put as pregnancy related leave.
  4. I felt and have texts where I’ve messaged my partner saying I felt humiliated and degraded and devastated. I even mention feeling suicidal
  5. I told the higher up manager that my manager was asking for too much proof and he said he’d follow up with me but never did.
  6. i ended up in hospital with sepsis and a womb infection following this as I didn’t have the time off to recover as the culture and my manager made me feel like I couldn’t.

if there’s anyone lovely from HR who could take a look at my timeline of events privately in DM, I’d really appreciate that. I feel broken, and lost. But I’m willing to fight this all the way to Tribunal.

Edited

Hi @Slaygria I'm so sorry you've been through this. It's outrageous that this sort of treatment still goes on and having to take an employer to task yourself in this kind of situation is really hard and many people won't feel able to face it.

I'm an HR Director, and would be very happy to have a look at your timeline and give you some support in writing your grievance and suing them if that's what you need to do (and want to do. Totally understandable if not, although you certainly have a case).

If you'd still like support, DM me and give me any additional information about what you've already said to your employer, and I'll come back with my thoughts on how to best present your case to your (soon to be ex - well done you!) employer from now on.

Either way, sending you as much strength as possible for this process, and so very well done for standing up for yourself after the horrific experiences you've had in your personal life and at work.

InSpainTheRain · 15/10/2025 17:10

Gosh OP, I am shocked at how badly you've been treated. You definitely have a case against them. Well done for resigning though, I wish you the best in getting over this and finding a new role when you are ready.

YorkshireGoldDrinker · 15/10/2025 17:18

I thought the management at my work was bad. Yours sound like the pits. I'm so sorry for your loss 💐

It sounds like this could culminate in a tribunal and the company is not on the winning side.

Deedeebob · 15/10/2025 18:57

That guy sounds like an absolute moronic cunt!!!
I am so sorry for your loss ❤️
glad to hear you have left that hell hole xx

StarCourt · 15/10/2025 19:06

well done op, please fight this toxic company all the way

FuzzyWolf · 15/10/2025 19:07

I’m sorry about your miscarriage.

I would be inclined to do a counter grievance and stay off sick with the intention of finding another job. How long have you worked there and are you in the union?

friskybivalves · 16/10/2025 09:11

What a wonderful offer from @ZiaMcnab. Best of luck and wishing you strength @Slaygriato take this horrible man and horrible place all the way to get the justice you deserve.

ClaredeBear · 16/10/2025 09:19

Ponderingwindow · 10/09/2025 16:57

if You are reporting accurately, I suspect your manager has gone on the offensive to try to cover themselves from the valid complaints you made in your email.

If you can get someone to go the HR meeting with you, I would. With any luck, HR will see this situation clearly. Their main goal is to reduce liability for the company. Which do you think exposes the company to more liability, your email or a systematic unhealthy workplace culture fostered by your manager?

If they don’t see the real situation, sadly, you do face an uphill battle and have to decide how hard to fight. Give them a chance though.

I agree. It’s clear to me that he realises he’s messed up - badly - and he knows very well this is not harassment, it’s a complaint. I don’t have any advice except get some from a professional because if what you say is true, he won’t have a leg to stand on so you need to carefully follow process. I’m sorry you’re not able to grieve in peace.

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