DS just bum shuffled and I could cry

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I desperately don’t want him to be a bum shuffler but I knew it was likely to be on the cards because he has always hated tummy time and was pretty late to roll.

Bum shuffling is linked to all sorts of developmental delay, dyspraxia, dyslexia etc. I’ve just read a study that stated half of bum shufflers went on to be diagnosed with ASD.

I just feel very sad that I can see a tricky future mapped out for him. I will forever ask myself if we could have done more to encourage tummy time but in the early days he just screamed and screamed and in the later days he was just not fussed about it and would roll onto his back.

Crawling is so important for developing visual acuity, handwriting, visual spatial skills etc. I am just absolutely heartbroken for him.

DH bless him doesn’t have a clue about the implications and is sitting there cheering him and proudly videoing it 😔 I’ve had to come out of the room I just feel sick and so gutted.

I was a bum shuffler and never crawled, I could fly across the room on my back according to my mum 😅.

I could read at three, no developmental delay here or physical problems. I'm hypermobile but it doesn't cause many issues.

Misogynistic? How so?

@Zzxxyyzz my son crawled at 5 months, was walking around 9 months old having made us walk him round holding hands from 7 months. He never bum shuffled. He is autistic and non-verbal. It's too early to know anything (I'm guessing he's under 1) but look instead at his communication. Also,

I think you need to talk to your health visitor about your anxiety

I actually think you sound awful. You're crying because your child became mobile? Get a grip ffs and be proud of your child. You should be supporting them not putting them down at such a young age.

Meant to add, if he did have ASD, it doesn't mean he wouldn't have a full, healthy life!

My DC1 crawled, early and fast and for many months. They’re autistic. They’re also funny, popular, academically successful, mostly happy and a generally all round fabulous young person. You’re massively jumping the gun. Unless your son has other signs of neurodivergence you need to calm down and stop panicking.

Crawling is supposed to be important for certain brain development but no reason to think he won’t learn that in time too, even if it’s just crawling through soft play tunnels as a preschooler.

The one of mine who has ASD and ADHD was absolutely textbook with crawling, walking etc and is very physically confident and sporty.

dyspraxia, dyslexia etc. I’ve just read a study that stated half of bum shufflers went on to be diagnosed with ASD.

Mine all crawled early - and like you I was aware of link between not crawling and later issues so was really pleased - DD1 been disaognosed with dyspraxia, dyslexia adhd - likely others will be as well.

It's an indication - you focus on play that helps develops hand to eye co-ordination. TBH most bum shuffles I know gew up to be NT - though a few walked quite late as they had hands to grab with- so be prepared for that.

Because women are regularly dismissed as over-anxious or hysterical in a way men never are. It isn’t just bum-shuffling here, it is also reluctance to be placed on him tummy - which is associated with low muscle tone. Maybe there are other things about his development that add to her worries that she can not put her finger on. Studies have shown that where mum thinks something may be wrong there usually is. She should be told to speak to her health visitor, not dismissed with anecdotes.

You’re being very melodramatic. Even IF he has ASD, there’s no reason for his life to be a hardship.
Me and several of my children are autistic. We call it a superpower. Thanks to ASD, one son can spout the most amazing stats about football, he knows so much going back years. He out does any football pundits. He’s got a super brain, he is incredibly good with maths.
Another don remembers so many facts, his general knowledge is insane.
By the way, all of mine crawled. None were bum shufflers.

Is your source for bum-shuffling and autism the 2021 paper with only 48 children involved?

That's a weak-ass paper that doesn't stand up to scientific scrutiny. In order to draw any meaningful conclusions, you'd need a blinded study with many thousands of children involved.

You can safely ignore this paper.

My brother and son both bum shuffled. Based on my sample size of 2 (almost as good as the dude with 48 people!), bum-shuffling was not linked with autism.

Chill. Baby will be fine.

Honestly I cried tears of joy when youngest DS bum shuffled for the 1st time as he has a rare genetic condition that means he has low muscle tone so is developmentally delayed and will likely have some degree of learning difficulties and behavioural issues the fact he was moving himself was amazing.

Only thing I can advise you to do is watch the episode of bluey called baby race…..

My husband was a bum shuffler. He came from a working class family with no educational aspriations and won a full scholarship to a very prestigious school at 10 (August birthday). A scout teacher put him forward. It's not indicative of anything. He also was a karate black belt at a young age.

I was a bum shuffler. Dd1 was a bum shuffler. We're both very intelligent, have gained fantastic grades at school/university. We're both clumsy, and may or may not be dyspraxic but we'll never know cos we've never been assessed.
Dd1 is autistic, diagnosed as an adult, but she's functioning quite happily in life with a full time job and an active social life.

Nothing is set in stone, and you can't tell ANYTHING about a person's life just based on how they move around as a baby. Bum shuffling is more efficient in a lot of ways, cos you can carry things with you that you wouldn't be able to if you were crawling.

Just enjoy your baby without making up stresses about the future (the big worries are rarely the ones we foresee)

Oh god! That is utter nonsense. Children develop in so many different ways in their own time! I have a son that was a bump shuffler and he exceeds his peers academically.

My daughter did a hilarious shuffling thing with one leg out to get about instead of crawling! She turned into a totally normal, clever girl who is now at Uni.
I've never heard of this before, thankfully!

You've got your cause and effect the wrong way round. Autistic children often bum shuffle, it's not that bum shuffling makes them autistic.

FWIW Hyper mobility is often associated with both bum shuffling and autism.

You need to get a grip. Whatever you start projecting onto him and your own behaviour is what is going to have a negative effect on him. I think you should speak to a therapist. This level of catastrophising is not healthy.

Op I have 11 dc.. Not 1 bum shuffled.
2 have ASD..

This is what my DD did too!

Children with ASD were less likely to exhibit delayed walking than those with non-ASD diagnoses, and this difference was larger at lower levels of NVIQ (P = .002). For example, rates of delayed walking for ASD and non-ASD were 13% and 19%, respectively, in those with NVIQ >85 but 31% and 60% in children with NVIQ <70

So if he is delayed in walking he is less likely to have ASD (if fact I had heard very early walking can be linked to ASD).
But then lots of ASD people are very successful and lead fulfilled lives.
I would suggest seeking support for your anxiety.

I think it can be scary when you have a baby because so many things are apparently a sign of autism.

My DD was a bum shuffler. She didn’t walk properly until about seventeen months, although she was standing and walking a bit, just preferred to scoot about on her bum. She got quite renowned for it at baby classes at one point.

She is two now and if she has ASD I’m a monkeys uncle.

Yet here you are catastrophising, wailing to the internet while your husband is happily videoing and experiencing joy.

Stop googling rubbish like this!