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DS just bum shuffled and I could cry

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Zzxxyyzz · 07/09/2025 20:23

I desperately don’t want him to be a bum shuffler but I knew it was likely to be on the cards because he has always hated tummy time and was pretty late to roll.

Bum shuffling is linked to all sorts of developmental delay, dyspraxia, dyslexia etc. I’ve just read a study that stated half of bum shufflers went on to be diagnosed with ASD.

I just feel very sad that I can see a tricky future mapped out for him. I will forever ask myself if we could have done more to encourage tummy time but in the early days he just screamed and screamed and in the later days he was just not fussed about it and would roll onto his back.

Crawling is so important for developing visual acuity, handwriting, visual spatial skills etc. I am just absolutely heartbroken for him.

DH bless him doesn’t have a clue about the implications and is sitting there cheering him and proudly videoing it 😔 I’ve had to come out of the room I just feel sick and so gutted.

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Wiltingasparagusfern · 04/02/2026 19:27

My bum shuffling autistic child walked at about 18
months. There were more relevant signs by that age too though and I had them referred.

My husband and I both bum shuffled and neither of us are autistic, though.

wishIwasonholiday10 · 04/02/2026 21:16

Zzxxyyzz · 04/02/2026 11:37

Hi @bluemoony, no, he has never crawled. (the Bluey episode lied! Some babies never crawl…)

He started cruising along furniture about six weeks after posting this thread, and that’s where we’re still at. He will cruise, and will walk if we hold both his hands.

He’s nearly 17 months old and I don’t think there’s any chance he’ll he walking by 18 months old, but that’s to be expected with bum shufflers. It can take them up to 24 months before they walk.

I can’t lie, I am still concerned about the association between bum shuffling and various developmental delays but there’s nothing I can do about it now so we will just have to see what the future holds.

You should be able to get a physio referral now or certainly at 18 months. You can also ask for a paediatric referral either from the GP or the physio when you see them.

Mistyglade · 05/02/2026 10:36

Balderdash. DS bum shuffled until he was 22 months old and he was 7 weeks premature. He’s the smartest kid in his class and has just been selected to take part in a maths challenge at the London Guildhall. Please stop this offensive nonsense, it’s actually very upsetting.

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Zzxxyyzz · 05/02/2026 16:24

Yes, the results of scientific research can often be upsetting @Mistyglade, but we have to wake up every morning and get on with our days regardless!

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Zonder · 05/02/2026 16:31

If we are talking about medical research you must have read that it's a small minority of bum shufflers who go on to be ND. Maybe try not to catastrophise.

Mistyglade · 05/02/2026 16:34

Zzxxyyzz · 05/02/2026 16:24

Yes, the results of scientific research can often be upsetting @Mistyglade, but we have to wake up every morning and get on with our days regardless!

What on earth do you mean?

DappledThings · 05/02/2026 16:35

I must have been on this thread originally as it came up as threads I'm on but I can't be bothered going back to find what I said previously.

I will say that DD's timeline was:
1 year - rolled for first time
16 months - started bum-shufflimg
19 months - started crawling, surprisingly and not a lot, preferred the bum shuffle
21 months - started walking. Never really cruised
22 months - straight into running

At no point did I start making any leaps at all from bum shuffling to any potential developmental issues. Especially in the absence of any other signs. OP you haven't mentioned any other signs either and I still think the catastrophising of your original posts was bonkers.

Zzxxyyzz · 05/02/2026 16:35

Hi @Zonder, actually it’s not just ND. It can be dyspraxia, SpLD, or simply difficulties with handwriting, wider gross motor skills and so on. No catastrophising here, just re-stating the fact that there is an association between bum shuffling and these things, in response to being accused of ‘offensive nonsense.’ 😊

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Mistyglade · 05/02/2026 17:31

@Zondercan you elaborate on your reply please?

Mistyglade · 05/02/2026 17:43

Mistyglade · 05/02/2026 17:31

@Zondercan you elaborate on your reply please?

sorry was meant for the OP

OP,
I’m still trying to understand. Are you implying I am upset by medical evidence?

Zonder · 05/02/2026 18:10

Zzxxyyzz · 05/02/2026 16:35

Hi @Zonder, actually it’s not just ND. It can be dyspraxia, SpLD, or simply difficulties with handwriting, wider gross motor skills and so on. No catastrophising here, just re-stating the fact that there is an association between bum shuffling and these things, in response to being accused of ‘offensive nonsense.’ 😊

Can you actually post any evidence? All I have seen emphasises that it's not necessarily pointing to any issues.

If you don't learn not to catastrophise at this point you are setting yourself up for an extra stressful parenting career.

Jojooo2025 · 05/02/2026 19:11

My DS bumshuffled, it was super cute and yes he's profoundly autistic. He walked on a regular timeline but never crawled. It was the first warning, others (speech, reciprocity) emerged around 2.5yo. For a while I wished I had recognised the bumshuffling for the early warning it was, but it made little difference anyway.

Namechangeychange82 · 05/02/2026 19:21

Zzxxyyzz · 05/02/2026 16:35

Hi @Zonder, actually it’s not just ND. It can be dyspraxia, SpLD, or simply difficulties with handwriting, wider gross motor skills and so on. No catastrophising here, just re-stating the fact that there is an association between bum shuffling and these things, in response to being accused of ‘offensive nonsense.’ 😊

I know it can be worrying when children don't develop in line with expectations. And it's hard not to be able to see into the future. But try and let go of things you can't change. There's nothing you did and there's nothing you can do other than what you're probably already doing in terms of giving DS a rounded upbringing.

For what it's worth, DD rolled over at three months, was commando crawling at six months, then proper crawling at seven months and walking at 11 months.

She's AuDHD, has sensory processing challenges, struggles with writing, has amazing visual skills, but awful visual motor integration and potentially dyslexia 🤷‍♀️

IndieRocknRoll · 05/02/2026 20:12

But OP, what has the GP said? Have you been? You have dodged the question numerous times on this thread, instead you’re bleating on about research. It’s frankly bizarre. You really must take your child to the GP as there may be an underlying cause which would benefit from physio. Waiting lists are long so it’s best to get professional advice tailored to your individual child now instead of scaring yourself stupid with things you’ve read on the web.

Allisnotlost1 · 05/02/2026 20:30

There’s an association between the decline in stork populations and in birth rates, between ice cream consumption and drownings in any given month, and between mothers who read a lot of medical information and those later found to have Munchausen’s by proxy.

🧐

Zzxxyyzz · 05/02/2026 21:47

So now I have Munchausen’s by proxy? Wow @Allisnotlost1 I hope posting that made you feel good…!

I haven’t ‘dodged’ anything, @IndieRocknRoll. The NHS’s position is that bum shuffling is a normal variant on crawling and that walking isn’t considered delayed until post 18 months (for a crawler), but more like 22-24 months (for a bum shuffler). DS happily bears weight and enjoys cruising etc, so there’s no need to see a GP, as the mechanics are all there. Walking will come, later this year!

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Allisnotlost1 · 05/02/2026 22:09

Zzxxyyzz · 05/02/2026 21:47

So now I have Munchausen’s by proxy? Wow @Allisnotlost1 I hope posting that made you feel good…!

I haven’t ‘dodged’ anything, @IndieRocknRoll. The NHS’s position is that bum shuffling is a normal variant on crawling and that walking isn’t considered delayed until post 18 months (for a crawler), but more like 22-24 months (for a bum shuffler). DS happily bears weight and enjoys cruising etc, so there’s no need to see a GP, as the mechanics are all there. Walking will come, later this year!

Well, ‘the results of scientific research can often be upsetting **, but we have to wake up every morning and get on with our days regardless!’

IndieRocknRoll · 05/02/2026 22:31

Zzxxyyzz · 05/02/2026 21:47

So now I have Munchausen’s by proxy? Wow @Allisnotlost1 I hope posting that made you feel good…!

I haven’t ‘dodged’ anything, @IndieRocknRoll. The NHS’s position is that bum shuffling is a normal variant on crawling and that walking isn’t considered delayed until post 18 months (for a crawler), but more like 22-24 months (for a bum shuffler). DS happily bears weight and enjoys cruising etc, so there’s no need to see a GP, as the mechanics are all there. Walking will come, later this year!

So you’re concerned to post all over a public forum but haven’t bothered to seek medical advice, despite having concerns since last year?
The NHS absolutely will be interested. I took my son to the GP on the advice of a health visitor just after he turned one and he was having physio by 18 months. Seems like you don’t actually want to do anything practical to help him but just wanted a platform to whine about your ‘research’

IndieRocknRoll · 05/02/2026 22:33

My son would also have walked eventually but what I wouldn’t have known was that the delay was down to hypermobility and low muscle tone. You need a paediatrician/physio to diagnose this.

BogRollBOGOF · 05/02/2026 22:47

Zzxxyyzz · 05/02/2026 16:35

Hi @Zonder, actually it’s not just ND. It can be dyspraxia, SpLD, or simply difficulties with handwriting, wider gross motor skills and so on. No catastrophising here, just re-stating the fact that there is an association between bum shuffling and these things, in response to being accused of ‘offensive nonsense.’ 😊

DS has these issues; he was a very adept crawler who was so mobile he had little inclination to walk until 16m when he suddenly let go after 4m of cruising and took 16 confident steps across the room.
He's thriving in (mainstream) secondary school, runs leisurely 22 min 5ks and has a bright future.

Stop catastrophising over some statistical trends and either get some support for your toddler if needed or for your anxiety.

tryingtobesogood · 05/02/2026 22:52

Zzxxyyzz · 07/09/2025 20:23

I desperately don’t want him to be a bum shuffler but I knew it was likely to be on the cards because he has always hated tummy time and was pretty late to roll.

Bum shuffling is linked to all sorts of developmental delay, dyspraxia, dyslexia etc. I’ve just read a study that stated half of bum shufflers went on to be diagnosed with ASD.

I just feel very sad that I can see a tricky future mapped out for him. I will forever ask myself if we could have done more to encourage tummy time but in the early days he just screamed and screamed and in the later days he was just not fussed about it and would roll onto his back.

Crawling is so important for developing visual acuity, handwriting, visual spatial skills etc. I am just absolutely heartbroken for him.

DH bless him doesn’t have a clue about the implications and is sitting there cheering him and proudly videoing it 😔 I’ve had to come out of the room I just feel sick and so gutted.

My youngest crawled like a demon and has dyspraxia and ADHD so absolutely no connection with bum shuffling. Utter nonsense

Zonder · 05/02/2026 23:11

Yes you have dodged @Zzxxyyzz you've dodged actually showing this "medical research" you have that links bum shuffling to many and varied issues.

All you've done is say the NHS doesn't count it as a problem.

CatkinToadflax · 06/02/2026 07:14

I find your posts really strange, OP, almost like you ‘want’ there to be a problem. Your ‘research’ will have no input whatsoever on your child’s progress, however seeing a medical professional absolutely can.

FWIW, neither of my boys bum shuffled. One is neurotypical. The other is severely autistic.

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