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Baby dies of whooping cough. Concerns about vaccine hesitancy.

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flyingsquirrelsagogo · 31/08/2025 10:38

Article on the the BBC website today. It’s so sad.
Vaccines are probably the most important public health measure ever introduced. But they’ve been so successful that people forget how awful things were before we had them and how deadly the diseases were.

Baby dies of whooping cough after mother not vaccinated while pregnant https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2xe5l4mn5o

A close-up shot of a baby's feet. The infant is lying down and has a white hospital tag around their ankle. The rest of the baby is blurry.

Baby dies of whooping cough after mother not vaccinated while pregnant

The first death from the illness this year comes as vaccination rates among children have declined.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2xe5l4mn5o

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Onthebusses · 31/08/2025 18:56

categorychaos · 31/08/2025 17:26

If the issue was that baby hadn’t had the jab they would not have mentioned the mother being unvaccinated - it was lack of prenatal vaccination that was contributing factor

I think if the baby had missed the jabs they would have mentioned it, but perhaps not if baby was too young for the jab, which would be under 4 months.

Mushypeas101 · 31/08/2025 21:01

This is very sad. There have always been vulnerable and stupid people in the world but social media has really compounded the problem by giving them a platform to scaremonger.

I completely agree that children who aren’t a vaccinated should not be allowed to go to nursery or school unless there is a medical reason for them not to have it.

I don’t expect prosecuting her in any way would help the situation. She will have huge guilt and it would just fuel the fire of the anti vaxers. “They’re out to get us” etc.

I saw a social media video the other day which suggested that folic acid was the cause of tongue tie and mothers shouldn’t take if (completely unfounded). No mention of the fact it reduces the rate of spina bifida significantly. Why do the algorithms let these people through but not, say, NHS reels? For example.

Lemonade2011 · 31/08/2025 21:24

That’s really sad. When I started nursing - 20 odd years ago we still saw quite a few babies with whooping cough, often very poorly most recovered and went home but some didn’t, the whoop was unmistakable and we all dreaded hearing it. I’ve nursed some very sick babies with pertussis. When the prenatal vaccine was introduced we virtually stopped seeing these babies, occasionally you’d get some who had been vaccinated. Before I left acute paeds we were getting babies in again.

i am now a vaccination nurse, pre school, we do many things to increase uptake across our region we take people at any clinic so they can come on a day that suits, we will call:text to remind re appointments, I’ll move people about to fit them in and we do extra clinics. but the ones who don’t want just don’t want and nothing you can do will change that. I just wish those who don’t want would just say so we can stop calling them. There only so much we can do, the onus does need to be on parents to prioritise their kids health and bring them to appointments.

rosegarden95 · 31/08/2025 21:34

I had mine from the nurse at my GP very easy to get appt with the nurse and the jab didn’t hurt. It was quick in and out in less than 5 mins.

Testerical · 31/08/2025 21:38

applegingermint · 31/08/2025 11:04

You will get a letter or text from your GP as he approaches 3yr4m as the 3 year old vaccines are given then. Same as your 12 month vaccinations which presumably you managed not to miss.

This isn’t always the case. I had nil reminders for either of my children. It was only because a)they were in school so got called up for routine boosters and b)before that, because I was diligent and knew what they should be having when. The NHS did not provide reminders by text, phone all, email or letter.

youalright · 31/08/2025 21:42

Social media need stricter rules anyone can put anything on the Internet and their will be thousands of gullible people who will believe it. I could post a tiktok saying kier starmer is going to start taking every child who's name begins with A and sell them to russia and people would believe it.

BoredZelda · 31/08/2025 21:44

Sleepygrumpyandnothappy · 31/08/2025 11:14

That is not the most effective comms strategy though. Vaccine take up is dreadful, the NHS needs to be approaching this the way any other organisation would think about user engagement.

Oh and incidentally my borough has one of the worst take up rates in the country. Vaccines aren’t offered at routine midwife appointments and neither the hospital or community midwives mention pharmacies as an option. Connection maybe?

And yes for people concerned, my son has had everything since. (Including basics like err, a midwife visiting us at home after discharge, which unbelievably I had to advocate for and escalate through other channels because the aforementioned hospital fucked up the paperwork.)

Texting and writing to parents directly seems like an effective way to contact parents. Are they also supposed to pop round and ring the doorbell?

As many have said, it seems taking personal responsibility for your children’s health has gone out of fashion.

BoredZelda · 31/08/2025 21:48

TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · 31/08/2025 13:17

One thing I think is missing so far from this thread is that different ethnic backgrounds and cultures have different vaccine take ups for a start.

And these aren't always ill-founded or ignorant - they're based on systematic failures of differentiating clinically for different races - much in the same way women's medicine isn't as well studied, and women's pain isn't as believed.

The successful approaches our charity has undertaken for health inequalities is to take the information into the right places - within the community centres, religious venues and neighbourhoods. Information given in the right language (not just the country language but suitably non-medicalised too).

I often get asked if I have a medical background by health professionals. I don't, but I could easily find and access info about the stages of lochia and say I was at the "lochia alba" stage for example - but it's just not realistic to expect women from poorer backgrounds or those operating in their second language to do so.

I agree with this. Vaccine hesitancy in some cultures is entirely understandable. We need to do much better to reach these groups.

Iocainepowder · 31/08/2025 21:54

Surprised at people commenting they had issues getting the vaccine. I was just told to book it at my GP and it was easy both times, including during lockdown.

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