Thread 30 Starmer - Magic Roundabouts

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Pull up a chair for some friendly chit chat about politics and beyond

Taxes optional but greatly appreciated.

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https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5395939-thread-29-starmer-paint-your-bandwagon?page=1

DH caught chickenpox when he was 45. I have never seen him so ill. Or so many spots. Everywhere, even on his eyeballs. He was almost hospitalised, off work for two months and I don’t think he properly recovered ever. Good news indeed.

I asked about the lifelong immunity, but apparently the vax I was given only confers 10 years of protection.

I’ll still take my chances. I’ve had my three score years and ten, anything now’s a bonus.

I know they talk about pneumonia being the old person’s friend - but my brother developed sepsis after he contracted pneumonia. Aged 62. He was in a huge amount of discomfort from the pneumonia, and then died from the sepsis. So I would, not surprisingly, rather not have pneumonia!

Oh BIWI, that is tragic. I'm so sorry💐

Thank you. Yes, it was a huge shock.

https://bsky.app/profile/markfergusonmp.bsky.social/post/3lxhxa6uq3a2q

I am so sorry 💐

I think it's also worth thinking about the NHS here. The fewer people in hospital with pneumonia the better.

Thank you @Notonthestairs

I think people living too long in ill health probably costs the NHS more.

I’m sorry @BIWI, I feel like this is incredibly crass. I’m so sorry.

Ah, now I teach this very thing in health sociology. But won't bang on. The two are related essentially.

On a point of order I was talking about numbers in beds in hospitals rather than costs. Covid has also massively pushed up pneumonia cases.

If only Starmer had done something like this. But the media would have eaten him alive, I expect.

Not at all @BIossomtoes! And I didn’t mean to bring the thread down.

All of it has made me very grateful for the NHS - that we get these vaccines for free. We read so much in the press (and on MN) about the collapse of the NHS that it’s worth pointing out just how much good they do, routinely.

DH and I have had different health scares over the last couple of years (DH is still ongoing/awaiting the results of a series of major tests), all of which have been handled by the various different parts of the NHS we’ve been involved with, speedily, efficiently and with huge courtesy and consideration.

Would be good to see more overt praise and recognition for this!

I love this. Have to confess it made me tear up a little

You didn’t bring the thread down at all. It’s good for me to be challenged.

We’re in the same boat. My bloke’s awaiting ablation of a cancerous tumour right now and the NHS has been magnificent. No amount of money would have bought him better treatment.

The problems of high leadership, I guess.

I've just been in the US where my DM was being 'cared for' privately. It was shit.

I’m still singing

🎶 stroll on by 🎶 🤷‍♀️😂

I’m so sorry.

When I’m cooking, I watch TV on my iPad. I try to watch stuff that I know DH isn’t going to be interested in which, currently, is The Resident, on Netflix.

It’s a long-running series about a hospital in Atlanta, GA. The particular slant in this programme, unlike others such as ER, is the money side of healthcare in the US. Not just if patients are insured or not, but also the tactics used by hospitals - as businesses - to maximise their profits. So upselling tests and procedures, which may not be strictly medically necessary.

I’m sure that, like any TV drama, there’s an element of exaggeration, but it’s quite chilling to think that the first thought of the management is money/profit, rather than patients’ health.

More myth-busting about flags:

https://fullfact.org/culture-and-society/england-flags-street-nike-advert/

Good grief, the level of disinformation being spread to incite violence is terrifying.

Speaking of outdated images, some of the media are using this one this morning, re Ms Rayners latest property acquisition.

https://x.com/TheParachuteReg/status/1961149315461910897

Hope this works?