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Amanda Knox

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YourBrickTiger · 21/08/2025 09:08

I see there is another Amanda Knox series out on Hulu/Disney. I've always followed the case closely. But I have mixed feelings. At first I thought Amanda was involved in the murder but as time has gone on, there isn't a shred of proof (from a DNA pov) against her. But should she continue to make money from the case? I feel deeply sorry for Meredith's family. As her sister Stephanie said, Meredith is the 'forgotten victim' in this. I understand she did spend 4 years behind bars and wants to be vindicated - and she does help other innocent victims who have been jailed - but I feel it's too much now and that Meredith is being lost in it all. What do you think?

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kkloo · 30/08/2025 17:53

Applebun · 30/08/2025 17:41

I was just reading online that Raffaele made 500,000 pounds from his book and Amanda made 2.4 million english pounds from her first book.

Its a lot of money.

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And all of that went on legal fees defending themselves against crimes they did not commit and trying to get them out of jail.

crackofdoom · 30/08/2025 18:03

SomeOfTheTrouble · 22/08/2025 18:09

Apparently just being ‘odd’ and ‘unlikeable’ is enough to mean that you’re at suspicion of having committed a barbaric murder. Only if you’re female though.

I thought of this as I was reading an article about Fred West earlier. Apparently none of his neighbours initially suspected him of committing all those crimes because he was such a friendly chap.....🤦‍♀️

Applebun · 30/08/2025 18:06

kkloo · 30/08/2025 17:53

And all of that went on legal fees defending themselves against crimes they did not commit and trying to get them out of jail.

I dont think thats exactly correct. Partially correct but not totally correct

Raffaele said that he sold two properties that his parents owned to pay for his legal fees.

Not nice to have to do that , but he did say that

Applebun · 30/08/2025 18:06

crackofdoom · 30/08/2025 18:03

I thought of this as I was reading an article about Fred West earlier. Apparently none of his neighbours initially suspected him of committing all those crimes because he was such a friendly chap.....🤦‍♀️

Yes and everyone thought that Ted bundy was charming and likeable.

FluffyBoob · 30/08/2025 18:16

MrsMitford3 · 21/08/2025 16:30

Very interesting article in Telegraph but I don't know how to post without paywall

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/0/twisted-tale-amanda-knox-disney-review/?recomm_id=71bdc48b-0a65-436c-9ec3-547f0ccf195e

Comments very interesting.
I admit I find her incredibly unsympathetic and one of the comments said that she came across as a narcissist and a psychopath.
She showed no empathy at all and her behaviour was definitely bizarre in the aftermath.

I think this whole thing is in incredibly bad taste and feel for Meredith's family having to relive it from Amanda's perspective yet again.

“It is difficult to understand how this serves any purpose,” said Meredith Kercher’s sister, Stephanie, when The Twisted Tale of Amanda Knox (Disney+) was announced last year. It is a fair summary of this wayward drama, a luridly stylised, queasily whimsical and aggressively didactic recounting of the events that began in November 2007 with Kercher’s murder. Save for a superb central performance from Grace Van Patten, the series offers little but a litany of reasons to feel sorry for Knox, who was wrongly found guilty of the crime. At times, it has the feel of a bad TV movie.

KJ Steinberg’s eight-parter is based so closely on Knox’s memoir, Waiting to Be Heard, that it’s a surprise that Knox is credited only as executive producer (alongside Monica Lewinsky, another figure who has, without doubt, been subject to some distorted representation in the media). This is, soup to nuts, the Amanda Knox show. It begins in 2022, with Knox huddled in the back of a car, secretly revisiting Perugia with her mother, husband and baby daughter, to confront Giuliano Mignini, the public prosecutor who put her behind bars. The scene, which bookends the series, shows us Knox’s ability to forgive those who have wronged her, as well as providing the sort of narratively neat moment of closure that Kercher’s family will never be able to have.
On Nov 2, 2007, Kercher’s body was found at her flat in Perugia. The 21-year-old British exchange student had been raped before having her throat cut. Suspicion instantly fell on Kercher’s American housemate, Knox, a 20-year-old student from Seattle, and Raffaele Sollecito, her Italian “boyfriend” (the pair had met only eight days previously).

After the murder of Meredith Kercher (left), Amanda Knox was arrested and ultimately sentenced to 26 years in prison Credit: PA/ABC/Getty
During questioning, Knox, whose Italian was relatively poor, implicated herself and her employer, a local bar owner named Patrick Lumumba, while Sollecito removed his initial alibi for Knox. On Nov 6, all three were arrested on suspicion of murder, though Lumumba was released following a strong alibi.

Instead, the bloodstained fingerprints of another man, Rudy Guede, were found on Kercher’s bed and he was charged with murder alongside Knox and Sollecito. The prosecution alleged that the killing happened during a violent sex game instigated by Knox. Despite fleeing the country, Guede was arrested and, in 2009, found guilty. In 2021, Guede was released from prison, having served 13 years of his 16-year sentence.
In 2009, Knox and Sollecito went on trial, with a second (bizarrely concurrent) trial taking place regarding Knox’s false accusation against Lumumba. By this point, the public idea of “Foxy Knoxy” had taken hold, with the American publicly painted as a sex-crazed sociopath.
Knox and Sollecito were found guilty of faking a break-in, defamation, sexual violence and murder, with sentences of 26 and 25 years respectively. In 2011, after spending four years in prison, an appeal court found them not guilty of murder, with serious doubt having been cast on the DNA evidence that tied them to the scene and to the whole police investigation. The false accusation against Lumumba was upheld, but as Knox had already served adequate time in prison, she was free to return home to the US.

Monica Lewinsky and Knox, both executive producers on The Twisted Tale of Amanda Knox, at the New York premiere of the series on Tuesday night Credit: WireImage/Santiago Felipe
Knox did not only have to endure frenzied media and public interest, but, in 2013, another trial. Italy’s Supreme Court set aside the acquittal and ordered a retrial, for which Knox did not have to return to Italy. In 2014, a verdict of not guilty was returned, although the case was not definitively finished until March 2015, when the Supreme Court ruled that Knox and Sollecito were innocent. A more recent appeal to overturn the defamation of Lumumba was dismissed.

The Disney+ drama shows its hand from the start, with Knox telling her fretting mother (Sharon Horgan, struggling with the accent in a leaden role) that “there’s no way we’re going back”. Only she isn’t looking at her mother, she is looking straight down the camera, with a smirk on her face, at us.
“Well,” announces Van Patten’s bouncy voiceover, “maybe we’ll go back a little”, before the show treats us to a misguided David Copperfield-esque montage involving a crow hitting Magnini’s office window in 1986 and Meredith Kercher’s first steps. Knox’s initial weeks in Perugia are marionetted in front of us as a mix of Emily in Paris and Amélie. To add to that unpleasant taste at the back of your throat – the night Kercher was violently raped and murdered, Knox and Sollecito were watching Amélie.

Grace Van Patten as Amanda Knox alongside Giuseppe De Domenico as Raffaele Sollecito Credit: Disney
The best work is done early on, with the horribly throat-tightening scene in which Knox and Sollecito slowly begin to realise something is wrong, as Kercher does not answer her phone or open her locked bedroom door. This is compounded in the hellish first few hours in the police station, with Knox pressed and cajoled by detectives who she barely half understands. The show makes a good fist of portraying the Kafkaesque nightmare that Knox lived through and Van Patten is truly believable, capturing Knox’s oddball goofiness and brittle ego.

Yet the thing that holds it back is Knox herself, as the show borrows the memoir’s propensity for vaguely philosophical mulch, allowing the voice-over to indulge in gnomic blabber such as “does truth exist if no one believes it?” or “in the haze of tragedy, I was a deer in the headlights”. Everything is shown through Knox’s filter – the police are cruel dunderheads, the media are braying hyenas, Kercher’s British friends are pearl-clutching prudes.

Everything in the Disney+ retelling is shown through Amanda Knox’s (Grace Van Patten) filter – including the media as braying hyenas Credit: Disney
Worst of all is how those who cared for Knox are portrayed. Sollecito is a lovelorn artist, unable to live if he does not have her devotion. The prison chaplain is a saintly grandfather figure who adores her and, at one stage, implores her to sing. (Yes, in the Amanda Knox Story, Amanda Knox gets a song.)
It’s an oppressively solipsistic work, with various characters speaking Knox’s truth for her. The chaplain tells her that people don’t see her, rather they see “something they fear in her”. Knox’s sister Deanna (Anna Van Patten), chastises their parents for making Amanda see the world the way they do. Steinberg has failed to translate the earnestness of a memoir on to the screen, and moments that should be powerful come across as plain cheesy. When Knox is freed from prison, everyone, from inmates to guards, all but bear her aloft on their shoulders, cheering and crying. At one point we get a literal trapped bird metaphor. It’s just bad art.

It’s all rather astonishing. To take a story in which an innocent 20-year-old is not only found guilty of a murder she did not commit but is also portrayed globally as a conniving slut, and somehow make her slightly unsympathetic is some achievement.

So much of what the drama tells us is true – Knox was maligned and mistreated, she was wronged and slandered, she had her life ripped away from her and transformed into something beyond her control and was courageous throughout it all. And yet by shoving these ideas down our throats, by turning her accusers into pantomime villains or bungling idiots, the drama does Knox a disservice.
It would be wrong to say that the series forgets about Kercher. But The Twisted Tale of Amanda Knox makes her a sideshow to Knox’s act of redemption and forgiveness. “Telling your own story is a sticky, tricky thing,” says Knox. You can add icky to that, on this evidence.

Applebun · 30/08/2025 18:28

FluffyBoob · 30/08/2025 18:16

“It is difficult to understand how this serves any purpose,” said Meredith Kercher’s sister, Stephanie, when The Twisted Tale of Amanda Knox (Disney+) was announced last year. It is a fair summary of this wayward drama, a luridly stylised, queasily whimsical and aggressively didactic recounting of the events that began in November 2007 with Kercher’s murder. Save for a superb central performance from Grace Van Patten, the series offers little but a litany of reasons to feel sorry for Knox, who was wrongly found guilty of the crime. At times, it has the feel of a bad TV movie.

KJ Steinberg’s eight-parter is based so closely on Knox’s memoir, Waiting to Be Heard, that it’s a surprise that Knox is credited only as executive producer (alongside Monica Lewinsky, another figure who has, without doubt, been subject to some distorted representation in the media). This is, soup to nuts, the Amanda Knox show. It begins in 2022, with Knox huddled in the back of a car, secretly revisiting Perugia with her mother, husband and baby daughter, to confront Giuliano Mignini, the public prosecutor who put her behind bars. The scene, which bookends the series, shows us Knox’s ability to forgive those who have wronged her, as well as providing the sort of narratively neat moment of closure that Kercher’s family will never be able to have.
On Nov 2, 2007, Kercher’s body was found at her flat in Perugia. The 21-year-old British exchange student had been raped before having her throat cut. Suspicion instantly fell on Kercher’s American housemate, Knox, a 20-year-old student from Seattle, and Raffaele Sollecito, her Italian “boyfriend” (the pair had met only eight days previously).

After the murder of Meredith Kercher (left), Amanda Knox was arrested and ultimately sentenced to 26 years in prison Credit: PA/ABC/Getty
During questioning, Knox, whose Italian was relatively poor, implicated herself and her employer, a local bar owner named Patrick Lumumba, while Sollecito removed his initial alibi for Knox. On Nov 6, all three were arrested on suspicion of murder, though Lumumba was released following a strong alibi.

Instead, the bloodstained fingerprints of another man, Rudy Guede, were found on Kercher’s bed and he was charged with murder alongside Knox and Sollecito. The prosecution alleged that the killing happened during a violent sex game instigated by Knox. Despite fleeing the country, Guede was arrested and, in 2009, found guilty. In 2021, Guede was released from prison, having served 13 years of his 16-year sentence.
In 2009, Knox and Sollecito went on trial, with a second (bizarrely concurrent) trial taking place regarding Knox’s false accusation against Lumumba. By this point, the public idea of “Foxy Knoxy” had taken hold, with the American publicly painted as a sex-crazed sociopath.
Knox and Sollecito were found guilty of faking a break-in, defamation, sexual violence and murder, with sentences of 26 and 25 years respectively. In 2011, after spending four years in prison, an appeal court found them not guilty of murder, with serious doubt having been cast on the DNA evidence that tied them to the scene and to the whole police investigation. The false accusation against Lumumba was upheld, but as Knox had already served adequate time in prison, she was free to return home to the US.

Monica Lewinsky and Knox, both executive producers on The Twisted Tale of Amanda Knox, at the New York premiere of the series on Tuesday night Credit: WireImage/Santiago Felipe
Knox did not only have to endure frenzied media and public interest, but, in 2013, another trial. Italy’s Supreme Court set aside the acquittal and ordered a retrial, for which Knox did not have to return to Italy. In 2014, a verdict of not guilty was returned, although the case was not definitively finished until March 2015, when the Supreme Court ruled that Knox and Sollecito were innocent. A more recent appeal to overturn the defamation of Lumumba was dismissed.

The Disney+ drama shows its hand from the start, with Knox telling her fretting mother (Sharon Horgan, struggling with the accent in a leaden role) that “there’s no way we’re going back”. Only she isn’t looking at her mother, she is looking straight down the camera, with a smirk on her face, at us.
“Well,” announces Van Patten’s bouncy voiceover, “maybe we’ll go back a little”, before the show treats us to a misguided David Copperfield-esque montage involving a crow hitting Magnini’s office window in 1986 and Meredith Kercher’s first steps. Knox’s initial weeks in Perugia are marionetted in front of us as a mix of Emily in Paris and Amélie. To add to that unpleasant taste at the back of your throat – the night Kercher was violently raped and murdered, Knox and Sollecito were watching Amélie.

Grace Van Patten as Amanda Knox alongside Giuseppe De Domenico as Raffaele Sollecito Credit: Disney
The best work is done early on, with the horribly throat-tightening scene in which Knox and Sollecito slowly begin to realise something is wrong, as Kercher does not answer her phone or open her locked bedroom door. This is compounded in the hellish first few hours in the police station, with Knox pressed and cajoled by detectives who she barely half understands. The show makes a good fist of portraying the Kafkaesque nightmare that Knox lived through and Van Patten is truly believable, capturing Knox’s oddball goofiness and brittle ego.

Yet the thing that holds it back is Knox herself, as the show borrows the memoir’s propensity for vaguely philosophical mulch, allowing the voice-over to indulge in gnomic blabber such as “does truth exist if no one believes it?” or “in the haze of tragedy, I was a deer in the headlights”. Everything is shown through Knox’s filter – the police are cruel dunderheads, the media are braying hyenas, Kercher’s British friends are pearl-clutching prudes.

Everything in the Disney+ retelling is shown through Amanda Knox’s (Grace Van Patten) filter – including the media as braying hyenas Credit: Disney
Worst of all is how those who cared for Knox are portrayed. Sollecito is a lovelorn artist, unable to live if he does not have her devotion. The prison chaplain is a saintly grandfather figure who adores her and, at one stage, implores her to sing. (Yes, in the Amanda Knox Story, Amanda Knox gets a song.)
It’s an oppressively solipsistic work, with various characters speaking Knox’s truth for her. The chaplain tells her that people don’t see her, rather they see “something they fear in her”. Knox’s sister Deanna (Anna Van Patten), chastises their parents for making Amanda see the world the way they do. Steinberg has failed to translate the earnestness of a memoir on to the screen, and moments that should be powerful come across as plain cheesy. When Knox is freed from prison, everyone, from inmates to guards, all but bear her aloft on their shoulders, cheering and crying. At one point we get a literal trapped bird metaphor. It’s just bad art.

It’s all rather astonishing. To take a story in which an innocent 20-year-old is not only found guilty of a murder she did not commit but is also portrayed globally as a conniving slut, and somehow make her slightly unsympathetic is some achievement.

So much of what the drama tells us is true – Knox was maligned and mistreated, she was wronged and slandered, she had her life ripped away from her and transformed into something beyond her control and was courageous throughout it all. And yet by shoving these ideas down our throats, by turning her accusers into pantomime villains or bungling idiots, the drama does Knox a disservice.
It would be wrong to say that the series forgets about Kercher. But The Twisted Tale of Amanda Knox makes her a sideshow to Knox’s act of redemption and forgiveness. “Telling your own story is a sticky, tricky thing,” says Knox. You can add icky to that, on this evidence.

Well the purpose behind it is obviously money

kkloo · 30/08/2025 18:29

Applebun · 30/08/2025 18:06

I dont think thats exactly correct. Partially correct but not totally correct

Raffaele said that he sold two properties that his parents owned to pay for his legal fees.

Not nice to have to do that , but he did say that

And presumably he was paying his parents back then for the legal fees? Same thing.

Raffaele did have to resort to a 'go fund me' for a new trial even after writing a book and getting paid for interviews.

So it's possible that he still hasn't even managed to pay his dad back yet for selling the properties.

Applebun · 30/08/2025 18:37

kkloo · 30/08/2025 18:29

And presumably he was paying his parents back then for the legal fees? Same thing.

Raffaele did have to resort to a 'go fund me' for a new trial even after writing a book and getting paid for interviews.

So it's possible that he still hasn't even managed to pay his dad back yet for selling the properties.

Yes but look at amanda.

She made 2.4 million from the first book. She wrote more than one book.

She then made a netflix series and a hulu special.

I'm sure the first book alone paid off her legal fees. So she is now profiting from it.

Saying that, I do think it is a horrible experience that the two of them went through.

They were in the wrong place at the wrong time, and it took years from their lives.

Applebun · 30/08/2025 18:43

Ah i was just looking up articles about them.

Raffaele said that at the time, his family encouraged him to speak out against amanda so he would get a lesser sentence. And he refused.

On the plate, there was my life or throw Amanda under the bus,” he insisted. “I cannot walk on the street being a free man realising I am to blame for a 20-year-old innocent spending the rest of her life in prison.”

Aw that is sad.

kkloo · 30/08/2025 19:14

Applebun · 30/08/2025 18:37

Yes but look at amanda.

She made 2.4 million from the first book. She wrote more than one book.

She then made a netflix series and a hulu special.

I'm sure the first book alone paid off her legal fees. So she is now profiting from it.

Saying that, I do think it is a horrible experience that the two of them went through.

They were in the wrong place at the wrong time, and it took years from their lives.

That went on debt and loans.
She said she didn't get paid for the netflix documentary.

This is probably the first thing she's making some real money for.
Yes Meredith Kercher was murdered and their stories are tied together but Amanda is telling the story of her experience..

https://people.com/crime/amanda-knoxs-book-deal-pay-legal-fees-loans/

Amanda Knox Spent Book Deal on Legal Fees and Loans

Still in debt after her acquittal for murder in Italy, Knox paid back legal fees and loans to her family and helped her younger sister with college tuition

https://people.com/crime/amanda-knoxs-book-deal-pay-legal-fees-loans/

Applebun · 30/08/2025 19:29

It is sad what happened to the two of them. They were very young.

I worked in the south of italy for a year. There is a lot of corruption going on. I saw it.

kkloo · 31/08/2025 20:12

Applebun · 30/08/2025 19:29

It is sad what happened to the two of them. They were very young.

I worked in the south of italy for a year. There is a lot of corruption going on. I saw it.

It was a lot more than sad. They went through a huge ongoing trauma.

I think from your comments you don't seem to quite grasp how awful the experience was, because if you did then I don't think you'd criticise her for talking about it. She had her freedom taken away and was told she was locked up for 26 years, she was hated by many and still is, she was told she had HIV, ,she had to undergo strip searches in prison and deal with sexual harassment, she developed PTSD, I'm sure I read when she had her baby she was getting trolled with people asking was she going to kill her baby. She had a very long traumatic ordeal happen to her that completely changed the course of her life and it's one that she has to live with the consequences of every day.

Sollecito was sentenced to 25 years, he spent months in solitary confinement and was on the sex offenders wing, he said it was a 'dreadful kind of pain without an end'. It was 4 years in jail, and then a further 4 in which they were re-convicted and finally exonerated. And they still have to deal with all the damage and scars and people thinking they had something to do with it.

And they exited prison in a huge amount of debt and also needing a lot more money for the other appeals.

If after all of that they make some money from their experience then I think that's absolutely fine.

Applebun · 01/09/2025 11:16

kkloo · 31/08/2025 20:12

It was a lot more than sad. They went through a huge ongoing trauma.

I think from your comments you don't seem to quite grasp how awful the experience was, because if you did then I don't think you'd criticise her for talking about it. She had her freedom taken away and was told she was locked up for 26 years, she was hated by many and still is, she was told she had HIV, ,she had to undergo strip searches in prison and deal with sexual harassment, she developed PTSD, I'm sure I read when she had her baby she was getting trolled with people asking was she going to kill her baby. She had a very long traumatic ordeal happen to her that completely changed the course of her life and it's one that she has to live with the consequences of every day.

Sollecito was sentenced to 25 years, he spent months in solitary confinement and was on the sex offenders wing, he said it was a 'dreadful kind of pain without an end'. It was 4 years in jail, and then a further 4 in which they were re-convicted and finally exonerated. And they still have to deal with all the damage and scars and people thinking they had something to do with it.

And they exited prison in a huge amount of debt and also needing a lot more money for the other appeals.

If after all of that they make some money from their experience then I think that's absolutely fine.

I don't care about her that deeply. I don't care about her case more than others.

I think the prosecutors were terrible, and I think its very sad that she was locked up for years. She is not the only person this has happened to. She is one of many.

Amanda Knox said herself that many, many people are locked up for crimes that they didnt commit.

She said that she has connected with a lot of those people, after it happened to her.

kkloo · 01/09/2025 11:22

@applebun I'm not asking you to care, I just think it's extremely shitty to criticise her.

Onesie123 · 01/09/2025 11:37

Haven't RTWT but has anyone seen the Netflix documentary film on this?

The Italian investigator is a clueless numpty and that's putting it kindly. He says things like 'We knew the killer must be female because they covered the body and a man wouldn't do that'. That's his idea of evidence. He was a vile man who just made it up as he went along, complete arsehole and sexist pig.

The UK gutter press were nearly as bad though, the guy they have on talking about what he wrote is also just vile.

I think people should remember that Amanda and Meredith had only known each other 10 days and Amanda had spent most of that with her new boyfriend. I don't think they were probably really friends particularly, they just happened to live in the same house. I'm not surprised she wasn't hugely devastated about someone she barely knew and that her own safety/survival was more on her mind.

I don't blame her at all from making as much as she can from this terrible trauma she was put through. They destroyed her life.

DwarfBeans · 01/09/2025 12:51

Poor Meredith Kercher was brutally murdered almost twenty years ago. It is not true to say that there was ‘no shred of evidence’ against Amanda. There was circumstantial evidence.

Her boyfriend was obsessed with knives. Both of them turned off their mobile phones the night of the murder which was completely out of character for them. Amanda bought bleach the next morning. Her blood was found on the tap in the bathroom (guess she could have sprayed around her menstrual blood) She described hearing Meredith scream. She said she saw her boss (a black man) and on it goes.

I don’t think Amanda killed Meredith but I do think she knew a lot more than she admitted. It’s possible that high on drugs the pair of them went to the cottage and she witnessed something. No one will ever know the truth but it’s far more complicated than some are saying.

So no, I think Amanda should stop profiting from Meredith’s death now and let the family have peace.

YourBrickTiger · 01/09/2025 13:48

InNewYorkNoShoes · 30/08/2025 15:10

When my family were told my auntie died in bad circumstances I grabbed my car keys and said I was going to Tesco. In my head I was writing a shopping list. The rest of my family were shocked and had to stop me leaving!

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I'm glad you said this, when my Mum passed away I went to the Chinese. When I look back on it, Chinese is my comfort food but I still wonder wtf I was thinking.

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YourBrickTiger · 01/09/2025 13:49

DwarfBeans · 01/09/2025 12:51

Poor Meredith Kercher was brutally murdered almost twenty years ago. It is not true to say that there was ‘no shred of evidence’ against Amanda. There was circumstantial evidence.

Her boyfriend was obsessed with knives. Both of them turned off their mobile phones the night of the murder which was completely out of character for them. Amanda bought bleach the next morning. Her blood was found on the tap in the bathroom (guess she could have sprayed around her menstrual blood) She described hearing Meredith scream. She said she saw her boss (a black man) and on it goes.

I don’t think Amanda killed Meredith but I do think she knew a lot more than she admitted. It’s possible that high on drugs the pair of them went to the cottage and she witnessed something. No one will ever know the truth but it’s far more complicated than some are saying.

So no, I think Amanda should stop profiting from Meredith’s death now and let the family have peace.

I agree with this. I too am sure she knew more than she let on. And with clever planning it is possible to remove traces of DNA. Not sure she was smart enough to do that though.

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Applebun · 01/09/2025 14:09

DwarfBeans · 01/09/2025 12:51

Poor Meredith Kercher was brutally murdered almost twenty years ago. It is not true to say that there was ‘no shred of evidence’ against Amanda. There was circumstantial evidence.

Her boyfriend was obsessed with knives. Both of them turned off their mobile phones the night of the murder which was completely out of character for them. Amanda bought bleach the next morning. Her blood was found on the tap in the bathroom (guess she could have sprayed around her menstrual blood) She described hearing Meredith scream. She said she saw her boss (a black man) and on it goes.

I don’t think Amanda killed Meredith but I do think she knew a lot more than she admitted. It’s possible that high on drugs the pair of them went to the cottage and she witnessed something. No one will ever know the truth but it’s far more complicated than some are saying.

So no, I think Amanda should stop profiting from Meredith’s death now and let the family have peace.

Welcome to the discussion.

What source said that he was obsessed with knives?

Raffaele sollecito's instagram is public and I was looking at it. He seems like tje most gentle person

YourBrickTiger · 01/09/2025 14:23

Applebun · 01/09/2025 14:09

Welcome to the discussion.

What source said that he was obsessed with knives?

Raffaele sollecito's instagram is public and I was looking at it. He seems like tje most gentle person

It was highly documented when the case opened that he had an obsession with knives. Whether or not it's true based on a few photos is another thing. I hate people making assumptions on what someone is doing in a photo.

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Applebun · 01/09/2025 14:30

YourBrickTiger · 01/09/2025 14:23

It was highly documented when the case opened that he had an obsession with knives. Whether or not it's true based on a few photos is another thing. I hate people making assumptions on what someone is doing in a photo.

I am looking through the articles of the time and I can't see any yet about his obsession with knives.

I am sure there were some articles at the time but who said it at the time?

Was it the police, or people that knew Raffaele?

SpaceRaccoon · 01/09/2025 14:38

Poor Meredith Kercher was brutally murdered almost twenty years ago. It is not true to say that there was ‘no shred of evidence’ against Amanda. There was circumstantial evidence.

All of this turned out to be bollox in the appeals process. There was no evidence evidence against them that wasn't fabricated or twisted. They were ordinary youngsters who got caught up in a terrible situation thanks to one violent, murderous sex offender.
They were upper class kids, why would they have been remotely connected to someone like Guede, at that point a known burglar?

YourBrickTiger · 01/09/2025 15:07

Applebun · 01/09/2025 14:30

I am looking through the articles of the time and I can't see any yet about his obsession with knives.

I am sure there were some articles at the time but who said it at the time?

Was it the police, or people that knew Raffaele?

According to the press (The Telegraph for one), the police did a detailed background check which confirmed it. Who knows whether or not that is true.

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Imperativvv · 01/09/2025 15:30

DwarfBeans · 01/09/2025 12:51

Poor Meredith Kercher was brutally murdered almost twenty years ago. It is not true to say that there was ‘no shred of evidence’ against Amanda. There was circumstantial evidence.

Her boyfriend was obsessed with knives. Both of them turned off their mobile phones the night of the murder which was completely out of character for them. Amanda bought bleach the next morning. Her blood was found on the tap in the bathroom (guess she could have sprayed around her menstrual blood) She described hearing Meredith scream. She said she saw her boss (a black man) and on it goes.

I don’t think Amanda killed Meredith but I do think she knew a lot more than she admitted. It’s possible that high on drugs the pair of them went to the cottage and she witnessed something. No one will ever know the truth but it’s far more complicated than some are saying.

So no, I think Amanda should stop profiting from Meredith’s death now and let the family have peace.

Have you honestly not yet clocked that this sort of bullshitting loonery makes things like the Netflix documentary more likely, for multiple reasons?

kkloo · 01/09/2025 19:20

DwarfBeans · 01/09/2025 12:51

Poor Meredith Kercher was brutally murdered almost twenty years ago. It is not true to say that there was ‘no shred of evidence’ against Amanda. There was circumstantial evidence.

Her boyfriend was obsessed with knives. Both of them turned off their mobile phones the night of the murder which was completely out of character for them. Amanda bought bleach the next morning. Her blood was found on the tap in the bathroom (guess she could have sprayed around her menstrual blood) She described hearing Meredith scream. She said she saw her boss (a black man) and on it goes.

I don’t think Amanda killed Meredith but I do think she knew a lot more than she admitted. It’s possible that high on drugs the pair of them went to the cottage and she witnessed something. No one will ever know the truth but it’s far more complicated than some are saying.

So no, I think Amanda should stop profiting from Meredith’s death now and let the family have peace.

@DwarfBeans So she witnessed something and then bought bleach to cover up the crime scene? Well that makes loads of sense doesn't it?

She has explained repeatedly why she made those false statements and wrote a new statement the very next day detailing her confusion and how much she had doubted what she said to them the night before.