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Katie Price and Peter Andre

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Leedssdeel · 17/08/2025 22:19

So , the news came out this week that apparently Peter has had custody of Princess and Junior for a long time . I see that now it’s a new hate campaign against Katie. But , I just can not shake the feeling that Peter Andre is not a nice person.

I have felt it for a while , I watched all their shows and he was horrible to her and I read her books ( admittedly , we don’t know what is the truth and it is only one side of the story ) but something about him I just find unsettling. He has stayed quiet , which people seem to think shows he is the better person. But , I think he knows that it will and that is the only reason he’s done that. I also do not feel comfortable with his marriage, the way it started. Emily is his friends daughter , a big age gap, he already had 2 children and she was training to be a doctor but now barely practices .. of course , it could well be her choice as she can afford to stay at home and look after the children and she could be very happy but just the way he treated Katie and the way it all came about something feels off .

I am not massively pro Katie - she has made a LOT of bad choices …. But she’s also a businesswoman who made a lot of money doing what she does , provides for her children and has raised - and continues to raise - a severely disabled son and she clearly adores him whilst his Dad doesn’t care and Peter also appears to have forgotten about him.

Im sure this thread will have 2 clear sides , interested to hear peoples views

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AliceMaforethought · 19/08/2025 09:45

Whataninterestinglookingpotato · 18/08/2025 10:09

Can you not separate her inability to function as a normal person because of how damaged she is from her personality? I don’t think she intentionally sets out to be this way, but she can’t stop herself. If you’ve never known someone like this then maybe you don’t get it.

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Don't be absurd. I am starting to think that her management is camping out on MN. STOP making excuses for this useless and toxic individual. I'm no particular fan of Peter Andre, but at least he is an effective parent and he isn't always talking to the press. I have no idea why people twist themselves into pretzels to excuse Katie's awful behaviour, but it isn't a good look.

TheMeasure · 19/08/2025 10:05

I wonder if they’re the same posters who would leap straight onto another thread and slaughter a mum who gave their child a fruit shoot.
And if so, one has to wonder why the excuses for KP. The internet yesterday certainly seemed to feature what looked very much like an organised effort to defend her and switch attention to her exes’ failings rather than hers.

AliceMaforethought · 19/08/2025 10:36

Starseeking · 19/08/2025 07:59

This can’t be real, surely not even KP would stoop that low???

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Oh yes, she could. She's a vile person.

LeavesOnTrees · 19/08/2025 15:28

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 18/08/2025 11:44

Ah mumsnet, where a woman acting badly is a victim playing out her trauma and everyone makes mistakes, and a man acting badly is an abusive narcissist who needs to 100% own his behaviour. You gotta love it.

Absolutely, I love mumsnet and the support it offers to women, but there seems to be (on this thread especially) an inability to accept a mother could be so awful that she has lost custody of 4 children, through her own actions and neglect.

There is no defense to her making money from videos and pictures of Harvey. To the PP who wondered if his nightclub visit was an attempt to give him a 'normal' night out and maybe what he wanted, really ? It's been documented he doesn't like loud noises. KP could have organised a 'nightclub' themed party at home, with friends and family, quieter music and an environment he felt safe in.
No one should be photographed in bed with their topless mother and posted aĺl over the internet. It's just wrong on every level.

AliceMaforethought · 19/08/2025 15:47

LeavesOnTrees · 19/08/2025 15:28

Absolutely, I love mumsnet and the support it offers to women, but there seems to be (on this thread especially) an inability to accept a mother could be so awful that she has lost custody of 4 children, through her own actions and neglect.

There is no defense to her making money from videos and pictures of Harvey. To the PP who wondered if his nightclub visit was an attempt to give him a 'normal' night out and maybe what he wanted, really ? It's been documented he doesn't like loud noises. KP could have organised a 'nightclub' themed party at home, with friends and family, quieter music and an environment he felt safe in.
No one should be photographed in bed with their topless mother and posted aĺl over the internet. It's just wrong on every level.

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Absolutely. I love how supportive MN is to women who are escaping genuinely crap men, but I think that message is weakened by support of people like KP. Even if Peter was a bad partner, that doesn't mean that he is a worse parent than she is. Also, it does not explain why ALL her children have been taken from her. She's a car wreck (literally!)

GasperyJacquesRoberts · 19/08/2025 15:55

AliceMaforethought · 19/08/2025 09:45

Don't be absurd. I am starting to think that her management is camping out on MN. STOP making excuses for this useless and toxic individual. I'm no particular fan of Peter Andre, but at least he is an effective parent and he isn't always talking to the press. I have no idea why people twist themselves into pretzels to excuse Katie's awful behaviour, but it isn't a good look.

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Imagine being stuck with the job of online reputation management for KP. Talk about rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic...

Kendodd · 19/08/2025 15:57

Where's Harvey's dad in all this? Apparently a rich footballer. He's watched this car crash of a life his child's in the middle of and clearly doesn't give a shit.

BabyCatFace · 19/08/2025 16:06

Kendodd · 19/08/2025 15:57

Where's Harvey's dad in all this? Apparently a rich footballer. He's watched this car crash of a life his child's in the middle of and clearly doesn't give a shit.

That is a well established fact, given that Harvey is now early 20s! Though apparently he paid decent child support. As he should.

AliceMaforethought · 19/08/2025 16:39

Summeriscumin · 19/08/2025 16:37

She's deranged. I don't know why people on here keep defending her.

Berlinlover · 19/08/2025 16:45

Is it true Kieran lost custody of Jett and Bunny and his parents are raising them?

Whataninterestinglookingpotato · 19/08/2025 16:48

AliceMaforethought · 19/08/2025 09:45

Don't be absurd. I am starting to think that her management is camping out on MN. STOP making excuses for this useless and toxic individual. I'm no particular fan of Peter Andre, but at least he is an effective parent and he isn't always talking to the press. I have no idea why people twist themselves into pretzels to excuse Katie's awful behaviour, but it isn't a good look.

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If you read my other responses you will see that you have entirely missed the point. No one is excusing her or saying what she has done is ok. But she’s a product of her very abnormal circumstances. Not many people would have come through what she’s been through unscathed. Especially if they themselves are neurodiverse and don’t have the best internal coping mechanisms.

this does not make her an evil person, she’s very messed up. She has done some terrible things. She probably should never have had children or even pets, she just cannot cope with them and cannot behave in an appropriate way. But despite all that, despite all the terrible choices and stupid things she never seems like a bad and mean spirited person deep down. I believe that at base personality level she is a good person, who simply cannot function in an acceptable way for a whole host of complex reasons.

just like you can have a decent, functioning parent, who isn’t really all that nice a person and can be mean spirited. I’ve met many. So once again, no one is saying she isn’t a train wreck of a person, but she’s is a product of her circumstances and I kind of just find it all a bit sad.

AliceMaforethought · 19/08/2025 16:51

Whataninterestinglookingpotato · 19/08/2025 16:48

If you read my other responses you will see that you have entirely missed the point. No one is excusing her or saying what she has done is ok. But she’s a product of her very abnormal circumstances. Not many people would have come through what she’s been through unscathed. Especially if they themselves are neurodiverse and don’t have the best internal coping mechanisms.

this does not make her an evil person, she’s very messed up. She has done some terrible things. She probably should never have had children or even pets, she just cannot cope with them and cannot behave in an appropriate way. But despite all that, despite all the terrible choices and stupid things she never seems like a bad and mean spirited person deep down. I believe that at base personality level she is a good person, who simply cannot function in an acceptable way for a whole host of complex reasons.

just like you can have a decent, functioning parent, who isn’t really all that nice a person and can be mean spirited. I’ve met many. So once again, no one is saying she isn’t a train wreck of a person, but she’s is a product of her circumstances and I kind of just find it all a bit sad.

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I disagree. She comes across as very meanspirited and venomous. I also don't know how far the stories she tells about her traumatic past are even true. She is the sort to tell lies to make her look better and look like a victim. That said, I agree with you that she should certainly never ever have had either children or pets.

DeepPanCrispAndEven · 19/08/2025 16:56

I wonder if a guy posted here saying he'd posted revenge porn anyone would say he was damaged and probably actually quite nice?

BabyCatFace · 19/08/2025 16:56

Berlinlover · 19/08/2025 16:45

Is it true Kieran lost custody of Jett and Bunny and his parents are raising them?

According to tattle which doesn't discuss them in much detail, they were removed from her and placed with his parents rather than him. I don't know if anyone knows for sure what their long term care plan was, but at the point they were removed from her they had been estranged from him for 18 months and she had made allegations about him such as that he had a gun in the house I think (can't remember exact details)
in my professional experience it wouldn't be unusual for them to go to a relative while the father was properly assessed and the relationship was built back up gradually. They might have returned to his care or stayed with their grandparents, but it's not really our business.

BabyCatFace · 19/08/2025 16:57

Berlinlover · 19/08/2025 16:45

Is it true Kieran lost custody of Jett and Bunny and his parents are raising them?

According to tattle which doesn't discuss them in much detail, they were removed from her and placed with his parents rather than him. I don't know if anyone knows for sure what their long term care plan was, but at the point they were removed from her they had been estranged from him for 18 months and she had made allegations about him such as that he had a gun in the house I think (can't remember exact details)
in my professional experience it wouldn't be unusual for them to go to a relative while the father was properly assessed and the relationship was built back up gradually. They might have returned to his care or stayed with their grandparents, but it's not really our business.

Boomer55 · 19/08/2025 17:13

She’s not a good mother, so the kids are better off with him. If the media stopped giving her the oxygen of publicity, she might sort herself out.

TheMeasure · 19/08/2025 17:27

The “estrangement” stemmed from the fact that Katie refused to return the children to him after an access weekend. He’d had full “custody” of them up until that point. When he went to the house to get them, she called the police on him and accused him of harassment. Ditto when he tried to watch Jett play football one weekend.
The gun thing was another vexatious allegation whereby he had an air gun/shot gun or whatever is perfectly allowable in the country for shooting vermin. Jett mentioned he’d seen it and Katie reported him to the police for possessing an unlicensed firearm. No charges were brought but each episode delayed his attempts to get the kids back and because his previous “custody” wasn’t court-ordered, it proved very difficult. She basically stopped him seeing them - or certainly one of them, alleging that he was scared of his dad. It was also around this time that Jett stopped going to school.
It was around this time that the kids’ social worker was struck off for “getting too close” to Katie. She promptly employed her as a nanny/housekeeper but she seems to be off the scene now.

BabyCatFace · 19/08/2025 17:31

That was a crazy situation! As a social work manager that strikes terror into me that someone could get sucked in that way. I've had to pull someone up for being overly involved before but it was nothing like that.

LuckysDadsHat · 19/08/2025 18:09

TheMeasure · 19/08/2025 17:27

The “estrangement” stemmed from the fact that Katie refused to return the children to him after an access weekend. He’d had full “custody” of them up until that point. When he went to the house to get them, she called the police on him and accused him of harassment. Ditto when he tried to watch Jett play football one weekend.
The gun thing was another vexatious allegation whereby he had an air gun/shot gun or whatever is perfectly allowable in the country for shooting vermin. Jett mentioned he’d seen it and Katie reported him to the police for possessing an unlicensed firearm. No charges were brought but each episode delayed his attempts to get the kids back and because his previous “custody” wasn’t court-ordered, it proved very difficult. She basically stopped him seeing them - or certainly one of them, alleging that he was scared of his dad. It was also around this time that Jett stopped going to school.
It was around this time that the kids’ social worker was struck off for “getting too close” to Katie. She promptly employed her as a nanny/housekeeper but she seems to be off the scene now.

Its because the bent social worker is of no use to her now! She has no need for all the tricks and tips she was getting no she no longer has them with her.

What a way to implode your career though! Lost a decent job due to the skanky one.

Theunamedcat · 19/08/2025 19:03

Phatgurslyms · 19/08/2025 07:33

We Have evidence of KP’s neglect of her children. We don’t have any of PA’s and it is awful to put that out there just because you are a KP fan.

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I didn't say he was neglectful of them although I do think he is emotionally abusive and that does extend to a degree to his children he hates his ex wife its obvious and she hates him my point was without Emily those kids would be stuck between two parents hell bent on hurting each other no matter the cost to their emotional and even physical well being

HappySummerDays · 19/08/2025 19:16

@Theunamedcat
What do you think of the way she is using Harvey? That photo earlier in the thread is tantamount to sexual abuse?

TheMeasure · 19/08/2025 19:25

@TheunamedcatHow is Peter Andre “Hell-bent” on hurting Katie? He hasn’t even mentioned her name or had anything to do with her for 16 years whereas she seldom has him out of her mind.

BabyCatFace · 19/08/2025 19:37

Theunamedcat · 19/08/2025 19:03

I didn't say he was neglectful of them although I do think he is emotionally abusive and that does extend to a degree to his children he hates his ex wife its obvious and she hates him my point was without Emily those kids would be stuck between two parents hell bent on hurting each other no matter the cost to their emotional and even physical well being

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I don't understand how PA has been 'hell bent on hurting her' - by all accounts he hasn't spoken to her apart from through lawyers since they split and has not spoken publicly about her either until now. Whereas she has done literally the opposite.

Starseeking · 19/08/2025 21:54

BabyCatFace · 19/08/2025 16:06

That is a well established fact, given that Harvey is now early 20s! Though apparently he paid decent child support. As he should.

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According to KP he’s never paid a penny for Harvey.

I saw a post on FB the other day where Dwight Yorke was wishing his 18 year old other DS a happy birthday and talking about how proud he was of him. I’d be so ashamed if that was my Dad, knowing how he’s avoided my half brother his whole life (Harvey).