What would a land value tax look like instead of council tax?

[Newmeagain]

Just saw something about this in the news. Concerned about potential impact on home owners in London who may not necessarily be wealthy - ie no other assets to sell and not a huge income.

does anyone know?

The main issue with more tax is many people won’t have the ability to pay a large chunk per year. Stamp duty is high but there’s a sale or lending to cover it.

You’d cause big problems with another yearly tax and it would include on ‘working people’.

Really Labour have created the £50bn issue so will have to find another way, rather than people offering up more taxes.

we’re In a bit of a doom spiral and they’re constantly playing catch up to try and fill the hole. They can’t keep putting taxes up forever and they really can’t keep the manifesto pledge of not touching CT/VAT/IT

they're so scared of public opinion that they won’t do anything about the cliff edges and inefficiencies in the system

We are fucked really, years of underinvestment and an ageing population that costs more every year.

Very few exemptions now on empty properties.

Single person already pays 75%, a couple its 50% each....

The LL would just pass on the CT in the form of higher rent and in what what is it a loophole?

All thats needed is a revaluation of the higher bands, so a 1m house owner pays 4x what a 250k home owner does.

Asset rich, cash poor? sell it and down size..... clearly living beyond their means...

Funny how Labour have a 50billion black hole but the Tories never had a 21billion one???

I smell BS.....

There area few pigeons coming home to roost. Faster than was expected, which is why there is such headless chickening going on in political circles. All of this was supposed to happen another 10-15 years in the future when the current crop of trough-lickers were well clear.

Has anyone see the fiscal projections that were given when the smoking ban was introduced ? (Hint, there weren't any). I'd put evens that they pointed to a £50billion shortfall over 20 years.

There area few pigeons coming home to roost. Faster than was expected, which is why there is such headless chickening going on in political circles. All of this was supposed to happen another 10-15 years in the future when the current crop of trough-lickers were well clear.

Certainly what it feels like

Because it is.

You're not wrong about underinvestment; it's pretty clear that no government in this country's history has ever truly cared about all the industries and the wealth they could create. Past and present governments have consistently undermined the country's economy by failing to support wealth creators effectively and imposing taxes in a way that often leads to economic crises instead of fair contributions.

But the ones who claim the elderly are the biggest problem are the same people who refuse to sacrifice for the so-called greater good before turning 40, only to become the same elderly folks younger generations will complain about. It’s just the cycle of life.

I think it's a good idea to ask AI apps for suggestions on how the government can raise all the money they need without upsetting people from different backgrounds.

On Mumsnet, discussions often revolve around political ideologies and personal vendettas against disliked individuals, leading to punitive opinions.

But the ones who claim the elderly are the biggest problem are the same people who refuse to sacrifice for the so-called greater good before turning 40, only to become the same elderly folks younger generations will complain about. It’s just the cycle of life.

I'm terrified about getting old because no government has planned for the changing demographics!

it's pretty clear that no government in this country's history has ever truly cared about all the industries and the wealth they could create.

I think the Attlee government of 1945 genuinely did. And they had the real heavy hitters to make it work.

I think it's less about underinvestment as poor value for money. Take this tragedy.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/aug/05/support-worker-at-psychiatric-hospital-where-ruth-szymankiewicz-14-died-had-no-experience-inquest-hears

A hospital run by private industry. Poor vetting of employees who were recruited by a separate business. No training, no experience, probably poorly paid meaning huge staff turnover. It's really just common sense that you can't get well run services in those circumstances. Despite this I expect the stats for this hospital looked really good (and I expect a jelly healthy profit too) but the stats can never account for experience and common sense as they can't be measured. The UK public sector is riddled with this sort of arrangement.

I think public services would work better and more cheaply if private industry (and the bean counters) wee removed from them.

I think it's a terrible idea. I think it should be means tested instead of based on an asset which you may have sentimental attachment to. Also, what about small properties with large gardens? Nobody should be forced to move if they don't want to.

I live in a small cottage but my garden is big. I'm in a rural area, the cottage is old, it needs expensive repairs all the time which I can't afford, but it was my family home. It's not suitable for a first time buyer as they all seem to want modern homes. It's in a conservation area so the land is never going to be allowed to be built on. It doesn't have central heating because there's no gas supply in the village. Basically, it costs a fortune already in upkeep and we have no services apart from bin collections. No street lights, etc. Even our water supplies are on septic tanks so we don't even use main drains. I don't think it fair to have to pay for services which we don't get.

I do believe that the rich should pay more, but having land doesn't make you cash rich and some of the properties on the land aren't big.

Nobody should be forced to move if they don't want to.

Not much grown up thinking going on there.

I mean I stopped paying my mortgage years ago. However I don't want to move so shouldn't be forced to.