Lucy Letby - programme on ITV now

[Viviennemary]

I think this must be a new programme and not a repeat. Experts are being wheeled out to try and say Letby is innocent. I'm not convinced at all. None of them were even at the trial or worked with Letby. It's all theories and opinions..

Go explain it to the parents then-see how it goes down.

They’re fine, they got whatever they wanted from contacting the press .

Exactly. Anything but what's right in front of them! The mental gymnastics, I just can't.

I don't think you understand what the term 'mental gymnastics' means.

You must have just heard it somewhere and thought it sounded good. It does not apply here, people are providing you with logical, valid and reasonable answers and explanations to things, no mental gymnastics are needed for that.

It always the whataboutery with you.

We’ve established, haven’t we, that removal of a NG tube and/or an oxygen mask/nasal cannula has nothing whatsoever to do with removal or dislodgement of an ET (breathing) tube?

The rest of it is unsubstantiated. Neither you nor I know whether either the blood or collapse were out of the ordinary. The difference is that you claim certainty despite your acknowledged ignorance.

I'm not sure why you're so dogged that this very normal event was something sinister but I imagine the parents are similarly entrenched. What's relevant here is whether it's a reasonable and rational interpretation of what happened, and it quite obviously isn't. The idea that Letby sent photographic evidence of harming a baby is so bizarre, it really shows where you are with your thought processes tbh.
Again, the photo and the entire 'incident' was normal and entirely not harmful. No matter how many times you repeat yourself, that remains true.

That's YOUR opinion only, if it was normal it wouldn't be newsworthy. And people feel emboldened to do things when they keep getting away with it. That's how they eventually get caught-duh. A bit like how your lot feel emboldened by the turning of public opinion (for now-until the police investigation is done) to dismiss everything she ever did. It won't age well though.

You really do have a special way of thinking about things don’t you? She’d just been convicted. The press were salivating over any bit of dirt they could get their sticky mitts on. Those parents went to the paper with a salacious story and the paper lapped it up. That’s all.

Their experience of their precious baby being in the clutches of a serial killer nurse is a "salacious story"? And I thought the patronising way so many posters talk about the parents involved in the case was bad enough. Not to mention the sheer arrogance of thinking they know what happened to these babies more than the parents! But you're something else. I don't know why you would be so nasty, I really don't. Even IF (and that's a big IF) they are mistaken and nothing untoward happened, why would you accuse them of being attention seeking or having a "salacious story"? The serial killer, literal SERIAL KILLER gets all the benefit of the doubt in the world, but a couple who want to speak out on possible harm by her (or at the least poor care by the sounds of it) are attention seekers? My god. I really hope you will be ashamed of this in years to come.

Everything LL did that might show a pattern/escalation of harm (and also getting close to the parents via fb etc.) is newsworthy and in the public interest.