You're not a... if you're...

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You're not a feminist if you're a "Mrs"
You're not an environmentalist if you're a meat eater

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OP says being a Mrs and being a feminist are mutually exclusive. For me, feminism is about choice. I chose to Mrs DublinLaLa. I like that our family all have the same name, regardless of origin (my ‘maiden’ name is my dad’s after all …) To say I have to choose between being a Mrs and calling myself a feminist seems, well, anti-feminist!

You are not a pebble if you’re a poo.

@Gffbjjgfddbjkkm are you conflating 'Mrs' and 'husbandssurname'? They're not the same thing you know?

While women are arguing about whether other women choosing to use Mrs is anti feminist, men are still going to be in overall control. Need to stop sweating about the small stuff like this, it plays right into the hands of those who think women aren't big thinkers.

You know full well that the issue is that lineage was passed through the male line, hence through Father's and not Mothers. Children get their Father's name. All of them. The Father's name is his Father's name. And so on. I didn't need the 'caveat' of explaining this as it is obvious.

Your insanely pedantic response is ahistorical and shows what is surely a deliberate refusal to understand what the issue is.

i couldn't give a crap about whether women keep their Father's name or take their Husband's btw.

You’re not a feminist if you dictate to women what they can and can’t do. Feminism means allowing women choices and whilst maybe not agreeing respecting those choices.

I think it’s more “you’re not a Gold Star Feminist” if you’re a Mrs, rather than you’re not one at all.

I fully accept and understand that not all choices made by women are feminist choices, going by Mrs (which I do), sex work, being financially dependent on a man etc.

I've never married so I'm not a Mrs.
I don't class myself a feminist either.
But this got me thinking, I still call myself Miss, is there an age I'm supposed to become a Ms? Is there a rule for Miss or Ms that I've never known.
Can anyone be Ms? Married or not?

Surely master is/was only used for boys/young adult males. From the age of 18 Mr gets/got used. I don’t think there was ever a time a 60 year old unmarried man was called Master.

Yes any woman can be Ms, there’s no age or marriage status condition. It’s still not the same as having the all encompassing one moniker for adult males though. It’s annoyed me since my teens.

But surely you only use Mrs if you’re married (or at least people will assume you’re married) whereas Mr tells you nothing at all about your marital status. It really isn’t the same.

You believe that you're of lesser status than someone because they have a penis?
Bizarre.

Using Mrs doesn't mean you're not a feminist. I use Ms or Mrs interchangeably, my bank still calls me Miss because I never bothered to change it. Also op, some women are married to other women, should they not use Mrs either?

Good job I'm not a feminist then.

Or you could just let me choose how I want to be addressed and why?

Why? I think adult women should be free to use Mrs or Ms, whatever their marital status

For those upset about Mrs, maybe this might help. It is about social standing historically, not marital status.

www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/mistress-miss-mrs-or-ms-untangling-the-shifting-history-of-titles

I agree op about the Mrs bit. But so many women never thought about it and changed their name to a man’s, they can’t say it’s wrong because they already did it

Please stop policing women

You’re not an environmentalist if you eat food shipped from thousands of miles away, take away main food sources from the native population or that requires deforestation and large water quantities in scarce water areas to produce the food quantities needed for demand. Such as avocados, quinoa and cashews.

Sorry, why does my title being "Mrs" disadvantage me?

Not actually sure that's what they said...

You'll not an intelligent debater if you make up what people have said.

You're not a single parent if you're in a relationship with your DC's father which has all the benefits of 2 incomes, 2 people to make decisions, 2 people to deal with kids' sickness/school holiday juggling/endless decisions about parenting/choices even what to have for tea every fucking night.

Just because your dh/dp is on a work trip/shite at parenting/a fucking useless nobber doesn't mean that you have the remotest clue about being a single parent. LTB and stop tolerating his shit.

Some pebbles are poos but not all poos are pebbles

Of course they are but why do men get to have one umbrella term (master is for children).

I think if honorifics were being created from scratch today (as in they never existed) there is no way they would create them to reflect women’s marital status and not men’s. They would either reflect both sexes or neither. Or do you think they would be created in 2025 to show only women’s?