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Is it normal to feel completely indifferent to strangers' lives?

348 replies

AmusedTaupePlayer · 03/07/2025 10:17

Hi all,
Bit of an odd one, but I’ve been thinking about this lately and wondering if anyone else relates.
I’ve noticed that unless someone is part of my life — family, close friends, maybe a few colleagues — I just don’t feel anything about what happens to them. Whether it’s good or bad. Someone winning the lottery, getting cancer, becoming homeless, whatever — I can understand it matters, but on a personal level, I feel nothing. Take homelessness — I get that it’s awful and I wouldn’t wish it on anyone, but emotionally, I don’t care. It doesn’t affect me. I don’t feel moved by it.
It’s not that I’m unkind or malicious. I just feel emotionally neutral about people I don’t know.
I suspect more people feel like this than let on, but whenever I’ve hinted at it, people react like I’m some sort of sociopath. So if it’s that common, why is it such a taboo to say out loud?
Is this just how emotional bandwidth works? Or is something off?
Genuinely curious — would love to know if others feel the same but just don’t talk about it.

OP posts:
IsadoraQuagmire · 03/07/2025 16:25

BunnyLake · 03/07/2025 16:24

No one said empathetic people can’t be hostile or angry.

No, just as well!

Alltheyellowbirds · 03/07/2025 16:26

Ratisshortforratthew · 03/07/2025 16:15

I know many people on this thread have said they’d be unnerved to find out a friend didn’t feel emotions about other people’s situations but I’m of the opposite opinion. I can’t bear people who start crying and emoting about other people’s stuff. Especially if it was my trauma! I’d be intensely fucked off if I started telling a friend something terrible (or happy) had happened to me and they burst out crying. It may be involuntary but as far as I’m concerned it’s the most self-absorbed “grief thief” reaction going. It makes other people’s problems about you.

Ha, I guess that’s because you’re not that way yourself. When I’ve been going through trauma I’ve been much more touched by those friends who were visibly upset than those who seemed unmoved. Because to me it’s hard to understand how you couldn’t be moved by such a thing.

We’re all different. I just hadn’t realised how much until I read this thread - some of the vitriol levelled against those who are born more emotional/empathetic is staggering.

BunnyLake · 03/07/2025 16:29

IsadoraQuagmire · 03/07/2025 16:25

No, just as well!

People who have a bit more empathy than OP and other like minded posters , aren’t all carrying crystals, dancing barefoot in forests and sprinkling fairy dust on people. 😏

TaraTomsmum · 03/07/2025 16:29

I think I would feel very empty if I was like OP.
She is the centre of her own universe. It seems to be to be a very limited life.

Ratisshortforratthew · 03/07/2025 16:31

Alltheyellowbirds · 03/07/2025 16:26

Ha, I guess that’s because you’re not that way yourself. When I’ve been going through trauma I’ve been much more touched by those friends who were visibly upset than those who seemed unmoved. Because to me it’s hard to understand how you couldn’t be moved by such a thing.

We’re all different. I just hadn’t realised how much until I read this thread - some of the vitriol levelled against those who are born more emotional/empathetic is staggering.

Edited

There’s plenty of vitriol for people with lower levels of empathy as well!

Alltheyellowbirds · 03/07/2025 16:31

Ratisshortforratthew · 03/07/2025 16:31

There’s plenty of vitriol for people with lower levels of empathy as well!

Ah, I guess I just noticed the ones I felt were directed at me and my kind!

BunnyLake · 03/07/2025 16:32

Alltheyellowbirds · 03/07/2025 16:26

Ha, I guess that’s because you’re not that way yourself. When I’ve been going through trauma I’ve been much more touched by those friends who were visibly upset than those who seemed unmoved. Because to me it’s hard to understand how you couldn’t be moved by such a thing.

We’re all different. I just hadn’t realised how much until I read this thread - some of the vitriol levelled against those who are born more emotional/empathetic is staggering.

Edited

Not surprising though, that is after all the crux of non-empathetic people, they don’t get why anyone would care about people who don’t personally affect them. How else does someone like Trump get so many worshippers when the rest of us are thinking wtf? Birds of a feather flock together.

BunnyLake · 03/07/2025 16:34

Ratisshortforratthew · 03/07/2025 16:31

There’s plenty of vitriol for people with lower levels of empathy as well!

It makes more sense to feel vitriolic towards sociopathic tendencies.

IsadoraQuagmire · 03/07/2025 16:34

BunnyLake · 03/07/2025 16:29

People who have a bit more empathy than OP and other like minded posters , aren’t all carrying crystals, dancing barefoot in forests and sprinkling fairy dust on people. 😏

I daresay. But they seem so strangely angry to the point of being rude to the OP about it. You can't bully someone into loving mankind!

BunnyLake · 03/07/2025 16:35

IsadoraQuagmire · 03/07/2025 16:34

I daresay. But they seem so strangely angry to the point of being rude to the OP about it. You can't bully someone into loving mankind!

Which posts are bullying?

For the record I feel justified in despising sociopathic people having been very directly and negatively affected by one (my ex). They are not on my list of people I ever want to meet.

Ratisshortforratthew · 03/07/2025 16:35

BunnyLake · 03/07/2025 16:18

God it’s not one extreme or the other!

My ex is most likely a sociopath and I wouldn’t choose to be within hundred feet of another one ever again, preferably an ocean’s width distance.

No it isn’t one extreme or the other but plenty of people here are acting like it is! Many people have explained it’s possible to care about stuff without feeling emotion, but then you have posters declaring that “repulses” them. I mean, come on!

Personally, if I was going through a terrible trauma, practical help from friends would be the most valuable and appreciated form of empathy (and is what I offer if people come to me with a problem). I actually don’t care whether they’re feeling any emotion about my situation or secretly thinking “god what a pathetic wetwipe Rat is that she needs help with this”.

Ratisshortforratthew · 03/07/2025 16:37

BunnyLake · 03/07/2025 16:34

It makes more sense to feel vitriolic towards sociopathic tendencies.

There’s a huge gulf between sociopathy and not feeling actual emotions about things that don’t directly impact you, though. As I and others keep saying you can intellectually care about stuff without having feelings. Why you’re determined to conflate that with sociopathy I have no idea.

whitewineandsun · 03/07/2025 16:37

AmusedTaupePlayer · 03/07/2025 11:07

Yes, that's what i mean. e.g. emma wants to run a race, makes people donate

If you don't care about other people, why does it matter rhat they know you don't donate to Emma's 5k?

That seems like a contradiction to me.

HiRen · 03/07/2025 16:38

IsadoraQuagmire · 03/07/2025 16:23

Yes, it's odd. And it strikes me that so many "empathetic" posters on this thread are SO hostile and angry 🤔

Hostile? Angry? Dramatic? I can’t speak for anyone else in this thread but I personally have none of those emotions.

Sad, because life as an isolated, stony hearted human is nowhere near as rich as part of a collective. Steady versus highs and lows, sure. But it’s sad to think a person will never know those highs.

Repulsed because I am a product of Thatcher and now live in the US. I have experience of where attitudes like this end. I am repulsed by the lack of humanity I saw throughout the 80s and see daily now.

As a completely separate point, everybody needs a minimum amount of emotional continence. There’s no call for histrionics from anyone not directly experiencing traumatic things.

IsadoraQuagmire · 03/07/2025 16:39

BunnyLake · 03/07/2025 16:35

Which posts are bullying?

For the record I feel justified in despising sociopathic people having been very directly and negatively affected by one (my ex). They are not on my list of people I ever want to meet.

Edited

Well the one that called her repulsive for a start!

BunnyLake · 03/07/2025 16:42

IsadoraQuagmire · 03/07/2025 16:39

Well the one that called her repulsive for a start!

OP won’t mind, they don’t care.

BunnyLake · 03/07/2025 16:47

HiRen · 03/07/2025 16:38

Hostile? Angry? Dramatic? I can’t speak for anyone else in this thread but I personally have none of those emotions.

Sad, because life as an isolated, stony hearted human is nowhere near as rich as part of a collective. Steady versus highs and lows, sure. But it’s sad to think a person will never know those highs.

Repulsed because I am a product of Thatcher and now live in the US. I have experience of where attitudes like this end. I am repulsed by the lack of humanity I saw throughout the 80s and see daily now.

As a completely separate point, everybody needs a minimum amount of emotional continence. There’s no call for histrionics from anyone not directly experiencing traumatic things.

It’s very telling that the ones on here with scant emotional connection to the world, view anyone else as histrionic, dramatic, angry and hostile. Surely the reason the world is in such a global mess is because it’s all run by unempathetic people who only care about themselves?

TaraTomsmum · 03/07/2025 16:47

BunnyLake · 03/07/2025 16:42

OP won’t mind, they don’t care.

I read that she does care. She cares a lot about herself and so also how other people sees her I think. I read all of OPs post like she just has a very exaggerated sense of self importance / main character syndrome.

Tollypuddle · 03/07/2025 16:47

Do people really feel empathic to anyone and everyone suffering?

I certainly don't. I love my family and close friends and if anything happens to any one of them, I feel their sorrow and pain, and would do anything in my power to help them. But someone I'd never met, no. I have a general horror of the mess the world is in, but surely if everyone felt strongly about every story of hardship and cruelty, we wouldn't be able to function.

There's so much performative grief too, you only have to look at social media and posters crying for people they've never met, never heard of.

Alltheyellowbirds · 03/07/2025 16:48

BunnyLake · 03/07/2025 16:47

It’s very telling that the ones on here with scant emotional connection to the world, view anyone else as histrionic, dramatic, angry and hostile. Surely the reason the world is in such a global mess is because it’s all run by unempathetic people who only care about themselves?

You forgot “performative”, “selfish” and “attention-seeking” ;)

BunnyLake · 03/07/2025 16:49

Ratisshortforratthew · 03/07/2025 16:37

There’s a huge gulf between sociopathy and not feeling actual emotions about things that don’t directly impact you, though. As I and others keep saying you can intellectually care about stuff without having feelings. Why you’re determined to conflate that with sociopathy I have no idea.

Do you care if a child is in the news because they were treated cruelly and killed by their parents? Does it sadden you, upset you?

MiloMinderbinder925 · 03/07/2025 16:50

ExercicenformedeZ · 03/07/2025 15:03

And I'm saying that you can care without actually feeling deep emotion or even pity. You can both do good to people and be impersonal. There is a reason that there is an expression 'as cold as charity'.

So you have to care, unlike the OP who says she doesn't.

TaraTomsmum · 03/07/2025 16:50

Tollypuddle · 03/07/2025 16:47

Do people really feel empathic to anyone and everyone suffering?

I certainly don't. I love my family and close friends and if anything happens to any one of them, I feel their sorrow and pain, and would do anything in my power to help them. But someone I'd never met, no. I have a general horror of the mess the world is in, but surely if everyone felt strongly about every story of hardship and cruelty, we wouldn't be able to function.

There's so much performative grief too, you only have to look at social media and posters crying for people they've never met, never heard of.

Yes I feel empathy, horror and sadness when I for example watch the news. Some news stories stay with me longer. Some news I avoid as I know it will stay with me for too long. It’s a different set of emotions that what I feel for my family and friends. I think it’s strange having to explain this to be honest.

Ratisshortforratthew · 03/07/2025 16:52

BunnyLake · 03/07/2025 16:49

Do you care if a child is in the news because they were treated cruelly and killed by their parents? Does it sadden you, upset you?

I think it’s awful but I don’t feel any particular emotions, no.

Tollypuddle · 03/07/2025 16:52

TaraTomsmum · 03/07/2025 16:50

Yes I feel empathy, horror and sadness when I for example watch the news. Some news stories stay with me longer. Some news I avoid as I know it will stay with me for too long. It’s a different set of emotions that what I feel for my family and friends. I think it’s strange having to explain this to be honest.

So do you spend your whole life in an emotionally empathic state because of all the bad news? How do you function day to day?

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