To think I should be allowed weight loss injections?

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Firstly, I think it’s a great thing that people are able to use this medication to gain control over their weight, and I think the bar set for getting them on the NHS is ridiculously high and it should be given to anyone who is obese. All those years people spent banging on about how much obesity was pressuring the NHS and then when we’re given a medication to tackle it they don’t make it available!

So I’m not confused about why I can’t get it on the NHS - I shouldn’t be able to - but why can’t I pay for it?

My BMI is 24 and I’d like to shift a stone and a half/two stone. I’ve fluctuated between this weight and a stone lighter for about ten years. I used to be able to shift half a stone at least but this time I’m really struggling.

I keep getting adverts about weight loss injections so I thought I’d have a look. Filled in the questionnaire and it says my BMI isn’t high enough for a prescription? But surely if my starting BMI was, say 35, I’d be allowed to stay on them until my BMI was 21/22, which is what I’d like? So why can’t I pay for them to lose a couple of stone?

You are not obese. Of course you shouldn't be allowed it.

Why? If I’d been obese I’d be able to stay on it for another couple of stone?

The guidelines are in place so probably who are within a healthy weight range can't get a hold of them. You're not obese. Why would you can't to fuck around with your pancreas like that for no reason?

Because the health benefits would not outway the potential short term and long term side effects of using the injections, when you're already a healthy weight.

No, you shouldn't be allowed to buy them.

You are being unreasonable as you’re not at risk of any of the side effects of obesity as you are a healthy weight. So you taking the injections would make you at risk of the side effects of these without any good clinical reason. I don’t believe you need to lose 2 stones to drop a few BMI points- that’s highly unlikely.

So if course the NHS shouldn’t pay for you to get injections that could worsen your health- why would they? Eat healthier and exercise… and appreciate your good health.

Is it the risk to health of being obese outweighs the risk of the jabs. But you are not so overweight that your health is at any great risk so at this point the risks of the jabs is greater.

You have a healthy BMI, unless you have a health condition or a lower cut off BMI due to ethnicity you don’t actually need it. Tbf I do think they should include people with an unhealthy waist to height or waist to hip ratio for health reasons.

Well it’s pretty obvious why you can’t get it, there are guidelines that state you have to have a BMI of whatever and you aren’t in that limit. 24 BMI is in healthy weight limit so you’re not obese or overweight. Surely you can understand that?

Really? You are not obese, you don't appear to have any health conditions yet seem to think the nhs should pay for the cost of medication, a gp appt and monitoring because you want to lose a few pounds.

Yabu

So the answer is that it harms your pancreas? I didn’t know that.

But I could pay for a facelift, a nose job or get my breasts made bigger. None of these carry health benefits, all carry risks, but you can pay for them? So why not weight loss medication?

There is a long list of side effects, that are definitely not worth risking unless you're actually obese.

It’s licensed for a certain range and group. I’m type 1 diabetic and can’t get it as it’s not licensed for type 1’s. Some people buy privately but I’d be wary.

She specifically said she wouldn’t expect it from the NHS and wants to pay for it.

So if course the NHS shouldn’t pay for you to get injections

Maybe read the OP again.

But the jabs for those who were obese don't get stopped when BMI hits 25? Which they shouldn’t be. But why is it okay for someone who’s got a BMI of 24, who did have one of 35, to keep using them, but not okay for me to? This is what I don’t understand.

But someone who’s got a BMI of 24, who did have one of 35, is also is a healthy weight. So why is it okay for them to keep using the medication, but not okay for me to?

Fucking Hell. Reread the OP.

I totally get where you're coming from, OP. Late Peri is making it practically impossible to shift more than a couple of pounds, even that's a struggle! It is frustrating seeing people staying on it for months and months to whittle away at their BMI, presumably long after the health benefits of their initial weightloss.

No, like the OP, I DO NOT expect the NHS to fund it. Those online private places are useless unless you have a lot of weight to lose. Computer says no.

I'm considering going to see a private Dr who offers micro dosing. It apparently helps to reset hormone levels, including insulin so it might be useful for those of us who don't necessarily need the appetite suppression aspect.

Because they have already been on the jabs long term so there won't be much more damage they can cause by staying on them until they reach a lower BMI.

Ahh! It’s not licensed. This explains it! But then how is it being prescribed to people who might now have a similar BMI as me who started when they had a bigger BMI? Is it that repeat prescription licensing rules are different or something?

You don’t seem to have done your research on a drug you so desperately want if you don’t know basic side effects etc that it can affect your pancreas. Weight loss jabs are medication so you can’t compare it to having plastic surgery. The jabs mimic hormones that regulate your appetite. Basic information as even knowing what the drug does shows people reading you don’t understand what it does to your body. Definitely shouldn’t be on them if you can’t even research what they do.

Because it could lead to people with healthy bmi but also eating disorders to get hold if them. Also when you lose weight it would be pointless to stop when you are just into a healthy bmi. You might as well go to a good bmi. So you are still allowed them.

You're not obese, or even overweight. Of course you shouldn't be able to access it. I would love to lose a stone but I'm not fucking about with my pancreas either. No chance.

Absolutely not an expert but maybe someone who started at bmi 35 still has risks at bmi 24 that you don't? Or maybe it is the risk of regaining the weight, that's why they can go lower.

It would make sense that someone who was 30 stone would have a different risk profile to someone who has never been above 14 stone.