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Someone is secretly bullying me at work..

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Hungrycaterpillarsmummy · 23/06/2025 22:42

And I don't know who it is.

Basically, someone constantly changes my chair settings on the days I leave at 3pm (and others are in the office until 4/5pm).
I have a really bad back so my chair is set at a position that helps it plus we all have to do ergonomic checks as part of an EHS thing for our desk and chair.
So it really annoys me when it has been played with and someone is doing it on purpose. Other things happen to like the cables of my monitor are unplugged and my mouse is switched off.
When I started there over a year ago there were a couple of guys who would do stuff like this and it happened so much I had to bluntly tell them to stop. And they did. But this seems to be a bit 'extra'. I obviously made the mistake of showing my annoyance when it has happened previously (and by that I mean by saying something like "who has changed my chair settings?"

But the issue is - I don't know who it is and won't be able to find out.
My manager won't be able to find out. There's no CCTV and no one would admit it if she brought it up..so what do I do?!

OP posts:
AngelicKaty · 24/06/2025 09:37

Hadalifeonce · 24/06/2025 08:35

Do you have to do your own ergonomic checks on your chair, or are they done by someone else?
If they are supposed to be done by a specialist, I would call them every single time the settings are changed, perhaps then, whoever is doing it may stop as it might move the situation up the management chain.

OP's already told us that each employee is responsible for doing their own ergonomic assessment.

lefthandedcat · 24/06/2025 09:39

I agree with Calliopespa -

SporadicMincePieMuncher · 24/06/2025 09:40

MsAmerica · 24/06/2025 01:10

It's not.

It may be pranking.

It may be harassing.

It may be gaslighting.

But it's not bullying.

Those things are bullying.

Pranking is only pranking if the other person finds it funny. OP does not, and has quite clearly asked for it to stop.

Nolongera · 24/06/2025 09:40

CRCGran · 24/06/2025 09:29

I honestly wouldn't care if it's acceptable or not. If I needed evidence of my bullying I'd do it. Very discreetly, but I'd not put up with this ridiculous school yard tormenting.

What you care about is neither here nor there, what can result in instant dismissal is.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 24/06/2025 09:40

Calliopespa · 24/06/2025 09:34

But n the basis that you have posted here and have already mentioned it to collegues and it continued, I can’t help wondering if you are feeding it with a heightened response op.

So it's the OP's fault rather than the individuals targeting her?
Good to know victim blaming's still a thing on here.

CautiousLurker01 · 24/06/2025 09:41

AngelicKaty · 24/06/2025 09:29

Why should OP look for another job? She's told us she "loves her job and the company" so why should she be hounded out of it by some moron who doesn't know how to behave professionally and like a grown-uo?
And OP's office isn't a "public space" - it's the offices of a privately-owned company and she would need their permission to film her desk and they would need to have a reasonable justification to allow it or they could be in breach of data protection laws and the Human Rights Act (employees have a right to privacy, and covert recordings can be a breach of that right).
Constructive dismissal claims are rarely successful at ET and OP would weaken her case by not raising a grievance with her employer first to show she had taken all reasonable steps to resolve the issue.

Because she also stated: Honestly the office is very bitchy and childish.

ie it is a toxic environment.

godmum56 · 24/06/2025 09:41

I think its bullying too. Would using this stuff help? Its intended to track rats and mice so you'd have a legit reason for using it. I am not sure how well it clings to hands. but maybe even using it would be an aversive to the "prankster" There are more expensive options designed to catch humans which do stay on hands and clothing. I also think your manager is a wuss, try telling them how much time is wasted by your having to reset your chair and computer every single blooming day......of course good old fashioned itching powder is also an option https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/197070657949?_skw=uv+powder&itmmeta=01JYGH5N884W1Y3Y3XS68NTWEX&hash=item2de253999d:g:gYEAAOSw4GFnxJFt&itmprp=enc%3AAQAKAAAA4FkggFvd1GGDu0w3yXCmi1dIqZI54qjjv0y%2BlbBGWaEW6h%2BUNClbFmP8mVQWGYiCJQFU2vuVNJgqoF3YQgVLPdv%2FoaxgCeQEnJkUNe3wZOUvfUjga%2BHBYFKHx0QjjCBBEmiyU8u6lOPH0BAZ13KvACaE12n3NkPahkNtJffKsF57Y1dyDK6UWHi8e7CEAD5GlGFNpeez6VV8gr1us%2BdUruC6xgcaa6Cpd6c8PPHtJFLk%2BC5OlQCXhxslgrQarn7GMYUvGe2K2NFuSiKhdAqJlIPlEqbg1QNjbdhVhpcZkaCP%7Ctkp%3ABFBMuNSWkfRl

SporadicMincePieMuncher · 24/06/2025 09:46

Does any manager work in an office that overlooks your desk space, by any chance? You could do with a manager or supervisor keeping a discrete eye out and witnessing it a few times.

ArabellaScott · 24/06/2025 09:49

Honestly, do not get into trying to 'catch the culprit' or pranking them back or filming them. Take it seriously, act like an adult, talk to ACAS for advice and go to management/HR.

SerafinasGoose · 24/06/2025 09:52

Hungrycaterpillarsmummy · 23/06/2025 23:40

Well, I have to confess I did smear my hand cream on the underside of the handles. So that did actually work for a week BUT I was off last week and when I came in this morning the handles were up but had a load of cream under them so to adjust it down I had to get covered in cream 🤣🤣

Well, that's the clincher, I suppose. It's certainly a spite campaign - but how petty and small.

You could also respond by not responding, difficult though that must be. Keep some wipes by your desk, clean the mechanisms every morning, make plugging in your wires part of your everyday routine. (I know how tough even small things like this can make your working life with a damaged back - I have one too).

Report it to HR and your manager with all details, including the cream smeared onto the mechanism. After that, it might be best just to let it go and quietly despise your bully as the craven coward they are. If you do use a camera you can bet they'd be onto it and use it against you: strangely enough bullies are always well-versed in self-preservation and know their own rights like the back of their hand. There is also the possibility that if they're as petty and devious as all that, they're deliberately trying to lure you into a response so that they can have you disciplined.

Do not fall for their games. If you chase your tail trying all manner of ingenious measures to catch them out, all you are doing is dancing to their tune.

Really sorry this is happening to you, OP. There is something really grubby and distasteful about a nasty little campaign like this.

Hoogey · 24/06/2025 09:52

Swirlythingy2025 · 24/06/2025 00:10

you need some type of coating that would be easy to wipe off the equipment but would stain what ever came into contact with it

Those Lily stamens would be good. They produce that yellow Pollen that stains hands and clothes

SerafinasGoose · 24/06/2025 09:52

ArabellaScott · 24/06/2025 09:49

Honestly, do not get into trying to 'catch the culprit' or pranking them back or filming them. Take it seriously, act like an adult, talk to ACAS for advice and go to management/HR.

This - put more succinctly and to-the-point than my post did!

AngelicKaty · 24/06/2025 09:58

Mumtobabyhavoc · 24/06/2025 08:42

This is one of the most fucked up work scenarios I've read about. Someone, a few or several of OP's colleagues are fucking with her by adjusting her chair so she has to constantly fix it and the only way OP figures she can retaliate is to smear hand cream on the levers?
The fact that OP hasn't just gone to her manager to complain about the adolescent behaviour is as astounding as the behaviour! OP is considering installing a camera to try snd catch the perpetrators? What am I reading?! Whatever will she do with the evidence? What will a "Don't touch my stuff" note do?
Jesus Christ , OP. Go. To. Your. Manager.
Or quit.
Frankly, shit like this causes depression. Some people retaliate by "going postal."
What a toxic place to work.

Edited

I agree. It's appalling, spiteful, childish and unprofessional behaviour by one or more of OP's colleagues who are old enough to know better. However, OP told us in one of her earlier posts "I did tell her and she agreed it would be annoying but like I honestly don't know what she could do!" So, OP has told her manager and her manager has done f-all about it. OP now needs to raise a grievance to formalise her complaint and this is particularly important for two reasons:

  • The grievance process has defined timescales for action so her employer can't ignore it, and
  • OP has been employed for fewer than two years so has limited employment rights, but all employees have the right not to be discriminated against from day one, and if OP stresses that the settings of her chair are to help with a back problem (which her manager already knows about) then she has the basis for a potential ET claim for disability discrimination should her grievance not be upheld by the company and resolved.
AngelicKaty · 24/06/2025 10:01

TruthOrAlethiometer · 24/06/2025 08:45

Omg. This is one of the most idiotic comments I think I’ve ever seen on mumsnet.

Yes, I thought it was just me! OP's now got to become a forensics expert! 😂😂😂

SomethingFun · 24/06/2025 10:01

The person doing this is like one of those people who smear shit in the toilets - unhinged. It just isn’t a funny prank but I can imagine a twisted fucker smirking everyday op has to clean up their metaphorical shit every morning.

Paysliphelp · 24/06/2025 10:01

I have never read a thread filled with such appalling advice before.

Do not retaliate. Do not use a camera or set any form of trap

Use a camera and you'll be fired. You could also be fired for these trap ideas if management deem you to have damaged work property.

Don't bother with water cooler chat or attempt to show you're unbothered, just deal with it professionally and efficiently.

For gods sake, use your head and do as sensible people have advised: speak to your manager, get them to act, if it continues go to HR. Document everything

As an aside. @MsAmerica really interested to know what you would consider bullying (genuinely)?

Tagyoureit · 24/06/2025 10:02

Poodledoodley · 24/06/2025 01:50

The more you mention it the more it will happen. Just ignore it - the perpetrators want a reaction.
We used to have a woman, who for reasons unknown, locked her mouse mat (bog standard work supplied one) away every night. On the odd occasion she would forget and then we’d hide it. If she’d never started locking it away we’d have never started hiding it.

What was the point of that though?

Did it honestly bring you joy to be such a knob?

ThePoshUns · 24/06/2025 10:03

Is there a cupboard or room that your manager can lock your chair in overnight? Of If I was your manager I’d make sure I was around your team after you’ve left, keeping an eye on them.

Tagyoureit · 24/06/2025 10:11

If I was you @Hungrycaterpillarsmummy I would just start interrupting your manager to deal with it every time it happens.

"Hey, boss can you help me? I cant bend down to sort the cables out, you know, because of my back! Can you plug them back in for me?" I'd do this with a wide eyed innocence. Whilst they are at your desk doing the cables, sit in your chair and say "im sure this broken, i keep having to readjust it every day, how much did this cost? Can I have a brand new one because there's obviously a problem with this one and you know i need a decent chair because of my back problem!"

AngelicKaty · 24/06/2025 10:19

CautiousLurker01 · 24/06/2025 09:41

Because she also stated: Honestly the office is very bitchy and childish.

ie it is a toxic environment.

But she plainly doesn't want to leave - and nor should she for the sake of one or more pathetic individuals learning to grow up. If anyone should leave, it should be her childish, spiteful tormentor(s).

lefthandedcat · 24/06/2025 10:28

Your colleagues are behaving like children so treat them like children.
Ignore the childish behaviour and they'll stop. Quietly plug in your cables and switch on your mouse, readjust your chair and rise above it.
By letting it upset you you're encouraging them to continue. Reset your chair each morning without making a fuss - ie no sighs or tongue clicking from you, don't let them see you reacting. Keep your facial expression neutral.
They'll soon get tired.
Surely its no big thing to have to adjust your office chair - or is it?
All the rubbish about cameras and sticky dyes will only backfire and could get you the sack.

Anzena · 24/06/2025 10:29

I'd try to narrow it down via the manager. Do you have to clock in and out via your desktop? There could/should be a record of everyone's attendance somewhere especially if flexi/WFH is involved. Manager could get a print out and would know from that who is either in before you or leaves after you.

Then a mail could be sent by manager stating the bullying is happening and records show that x number of staff are in the office at certain times always when this occurs.

Can you WFH for a while? Can manager hot desk you all so that you are a moving target!

Just some ideas off the top of my head. I've only read OP posts, so someone may have said the above already.

BunnyLake · 24/06/2025 10:29

CRCGran · 24/06/2025 09:22

You can get small discreet cameras OP and I'd definitely do that !! Ones that look like a key ring or similar, and could be easily left somewhere it wouldn't be noticed. You've told your manager, nothing has been resolved, so you can and should do whatever you need to find out who is doing it. It is most definitely bullying. And you don't need to tell anyone you've done that. But you would know who your tormentor was and think of ways to deal with him/her accordingly.

Edited

And what ways would that be? How many times does it have to be said that filming can be considered misconduct and a sackable offence. How would you feel if you knew that colleagues could secretly film you at work with no consequences?

ChestnutSquash · 24/06/2025 10:35

"Surely its no big thing to have to adjust your office chair - or is it?"

It is if you have chronic back pain that is so severe that you need a specially adjusted chair in your work place.

Tbry24 · 24/06/2025 10:35

I’ve been really badly bullied in the workplace in the past, so bad that that eventually it made me lose my job. So yes the small things can get worse and worse in time so it’s best to nip it in the bud.

Make a chair log for a fortnight and work out the top three candidates. When each one of them is working later than you pop back in after forgetting something important in your drawer. The time that the chair has been altered you know which person it is.

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