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Should people be entitled to divorce leave?

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mids2019 · 21/06/2025 10:17

I work in the NHS and obviously people split up/divorce during the course of their working lives. There seems to be some unwritten rule that if for instance a partner is discovered having an affair the person goes off work for 3-6 months with stress. I don't know if I'm reality the leave is for stress or just for the obvious depressive effects of a breakdown and the need to attend to a huge amount of life admin.

We get carers leave, maternity leave etc.but should we have policies on long term relationship break up leave simply to not have staff have to go through clinical diagnoses of stress and hence illness?. Just a thought because as I see it there are basically unwritten policy any way with these things.

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Profpudding · 21/06/2025 13:33

Quite a lot of people lose their jobs during divorces due to the emotional trauma.

Luggagerackistopheavy · 21/06/2025 13:33

Katypp · 21/06/2025 13:30

I agree with this.
See also teachers who 'have' to retire at 55 because of the stress.
Remove the option to retire early on a decent pension (and I know it's not the full pension, but it must be good enough because plenty take the option) and the numbers would tumble dramatically.
I've never worked anywhere that would be OK with people taking six months off because of a divorce.

Would you want your child taught by teacher who had been forced to stay because of a policy?

Katypp · 21/06/2025 13:34

Ionlywentandbloodydidit · 21/06/2025 12:03

I have a good friend who works in the NHS as a nurse. She routinely has 3 or 4 months a year off ( occ 6 ) for various stresses, ailments etc, for as long as I have known her. On full pay and pension contribution. She admits she is very fortunate the NHS are so generous and sees it as a perk of the job.
I’m sure this is not the work ethic of the majority of the NHS workforce but I do wonder if our ( collective) taxes couldn’t be better spent within the NHS then paying for endless leave with generous pensions .
It’s no coincidence that people that work within the private sector have substantially less time off.
I work really hard for my salary and it irks me ( or maybe I’m just jealous :-)

Edited

Oh it irks me endlessly and I am deffo jeleous.
It started for me when my nurse neighbour started her 10-month maternity leave just as I was going back from my six-week stint (it was the 1990s)
I am currently surrounded by various public sector retirees (teacher, prison officers, police, NHS) all of who retired at 55 with seemingly no drop in standards of living.
We all pay for this, and no, it's not fair

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Katypp · 21/06/2025 13:35

Luggagerackistopheavy · 21/06/2025 13:33

Would you want your child taught by teacher who had been forced to stay because of a policy?

Forced to stay??
You mean retire the same time as everyone else?

Whoknowshere · 21/06/2025 13:44

Negroany · 21/06/2025 12:38

There's no such thing as "stress leave".

Yes, mental health leave. You go to the GP and they sigh you out sick leave due to stress. I manage the person so I know. It is also in our company policy.

Luggagerackistopheavy · 21/06/2025 13:47

Katypp · 21/06/2025 13:35

Forced to stay??
You mean retire the same time as everyone else?

No I mean forced to stay. There's a huge difference between staying to retirement age in a non customer facing office job for example than teaching a ten year old who punches you as a massively knackered teacher who desperately wants to retire and can't.

Just like I think those in physically demanding jobs should also be able to retire 'early'.

Perhaps my view is clouded by a teacher I knew who retired and then had a stroke 3 weeks later. They sadly didn't make it and never got the retirement they'd been so desperate for.

Profpudding · 21/06/2025 13:50

Luggagerackistopheavy · 21/06/2025 13:47

No I mean forced to stay. There's a huge difference between staying to retirement age in a non customer facing office job for example than teaching a ten year old who punches you as a massively knackered teacher who desperately wants to retire and can't.

Just like I think those in physically demanding jobs should also be able to retire 'early'.

Perhaps my view is clouded by a teacher I knew who retired and then had a stroke 3 weeks later. They sadly didn't make it and never got the retirement they'd been so desperate for.

Just out of interest, how often do 10-year-olds punch teachers have any age?

And what difference does it make whether you’re being punched at 21 as a teacher or 61 as a teacher does it hurt more?

Katypp · 21/06/2025 13:50

Luggagerackistopheavy · 21/06/2025 13:47

No I mean forced to stay. There's a huge difference between staying to retirement age in a non customer facing office job for example than teaching a ten year old who punches you as a massively knackered teacher who desperately wants to retire and can't.

Just like I think those in physically demanding jobs should also be able to retire 'early'.

Perhaps my view is clouded by a teacher I knew who retired and then had a stroke 3 weeks later. They sadly didn't make it and never got the retirement they'd been so desperate for.

As are we all.
Why do you think teachers are a special case? There are plenty of shit jobs that don't command the perks, are there not?
The country can't afford to pay my neighbour to potter in her garden all day.

feelingbleh · 21/06/2025 13:51

No because their are certain couples who break up multiple times a year and its the end of the world then their all loved up again a week later

Luggagerackistopheavy · 21/06/2025 13:53

Katypp · 21/06/2025 13:50

As are we all.
Why do you think teachers are a special case? There are plenty of shit jobs that don't command the perks, are there not?
The country can't afford to pay my neighbour to potter in her garden all day.

I've explained things. If you can't be bothered to read it properly that's fine.

Swirlframe · 21/06/2025 13:56

They're not getting "divorce leave", a doctor has deemed them too unwell to work.

It is amazing how much more that happens when there's a long sick pay period. Whether that's a good or a bad thing is a matter of opinion. E.g. Are people in other jobs having to work when they're not really well enough?

Luggagerackistopheavy · 21/06/2025 13:56

Profpudding · 21/06/2025 13:50

Just out of interest, how often do 10-year-olds punch teachers have any age?

And what difference does it make whether you’re being punched at 21 as a teacher or 61 as a teacher does it hurt more?

You'd be amazed how many teachers go through physical violence in the classroom. And no it doesn't hurt any less at 21 but at 60+ people often have more health conditions as well as bruise/break bones more easily.

Katypp · 21/06/2025 13:57

Luggagerackistopheavy · 21/06/2025 13:53

I've explained things. If you can't be bothered to read it properly that's fine.

Sorry have I missed something?
What have you explained over and above teachers should be allowed to retire early because their job can be difficult?
As can all jobs

Luggagerackistopheavy · 21/06/2025 13:58

Katypp · 21/06/2025 13:57

Sorry have I missed something?
What have you explained over and above teachers should be allowed to retire early because their job can be difficult?
As can all jobs

And, as before, I suggest you read what I've already said.

Satisfiedkitty · 21/06/2025 14:00

I can't comprehend stuff like this.

I run a small, professional, business. I had a awful, traumatic, breakup and divorce, diagnosed with CPTSD, thought I was dying for 18 months, had to handle the house sale, and dcs in my own, no family support, ended up with shingles - chances of me taking any time off = zero! Didn't even take my holiday, because I needed the bloody money.

If you really need time off, you can be signed off for stress. As an employer, I totally support that, but as a blanket rule for divorce, crazy.

Negroany · 21/06/2025 14:16

Whoknowshere · 21/06/2025 13:44

Yes, mental health leave. You go to the GP and they sigh you out sick leave due to stress. I manage the person so I know. It is also in our company policy.

That would be sick leave.

Mh67 · 21/06/2025 14:50

Absolutely not some people would b off all the time with yoyo romances

CatloverNY · 21/06/2025 14:58

If organisations did this there would be leave for everything !
If getting divorced makes someone ill then it’s sick leave surely and they use the appropriate sick leave policy.
For some people divorce is a relief and the start of a new beginning. Everyone is different and I guess it affects people in different ways.

LlynTegid · 21/06/2025 15:23

Perhaps the guilty party should have to fund the sick leave. We as taxpayers should not be having to fund the consequences of those who cannot keep it in their trousers/jeans etc.

Crushed23 · 21/06/2025 15:58

I don’t work in the NHS admittedly, but I have never come across anyone off sick with stress as a result of a relationship breakdown. Come to think it, I’ve never come across anyone being off sick for an extended period of time (over 1 week) for stress, and I work in a VERY stressful job.

SheilaFentiman · 21/06/2025 18:53

Another provocative OP, @mids2019 ?

Anyway, as others have said - life is full of stresses. If a particular stress is making you too ill to work, then see a GP. Might be divorce, bereavement, sick child etc - there’s no point specifying a particular trigger.

Cynic17 · 21/06/2025 19:13

No. Because people would massively take the pi*s. There is already far too much absenteeism in the NHS, without adding another excuse.

user1471543683 · 21/06/2025 19:27

I work for local government and think this is exactly the problem. It’s easy to be off for weeks and weeks when you’re getting full pay for it. Put it to SSP and people would not be able to abuse it and come back much sooner.

Vitrolinsanity · 21/06/2025 19:30

No.

Vitrolinsanity · 21/06/2025 19:33

user1471543683 · 21/06/2025 19:27

I work for local government and think this is exactly the problem. It’s easy to be off for weeks and weeks when you’re getting full pay for it. Put it to SSP and people would not be able to abuse it and come back much sooner.

See also Education.

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