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Is the worry of men getting 50/50 in court ,making women stay in abusive relationships

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Summerwhippet · 20/06/2025 05:57

Just from reading some threads on here , it made me think ,how awful it must be to know your in an abusive relationship,but then also know if you leave he can go for 50/50,.
Do the courts listen to the woman,in this situation?
I can't imagine an abusive husband would make a great father ,mine certainly didn't,thank goodness I only had to go every other weekend.
When did it become normal for men to get 50/50

I only have experience of being a child of a divorce ,and 50/50 would of been a disaster for me

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Mauro711 · 21/06/2025 08:43

@5050canwormkwell this my experience from the people I know who do 50/50 too. The kids are all very happy and well rounded, the parents communicate well and attend things together with the kids, there is no fighting about money or resentment due to one parent taking the piss etc. I think this should be the goal for all separated families and I am glad it’s becoming the norm. It goes without saying g that it won’t be possible or healthy in every case of course, but it’s far better than putting 80% of childcare on the mother’s shoulders as a default.

Soontobe60 · 21/06/2025 08:50

Summerwhippet · 20/06/2025 06:34

That was a simple question
When did it become normal for men to get 50/50
My experience was it was normal for every other weekend,I'm just wondering when it changed

I divorced 36 years ago. Our DC did 50/50 almost from the beginning.

Summerwhippet · 21/06/2025 13:03

5050canwormkwell · 21/06/2025 07:52

A child with separated parents who both have overnight contact is always going to have two homes. There might always be different food, bedtime routines, rules in each house and they will always have possessions at each house. This isn't caused by 50/50. It's caused by separation and both parents having overnight access.

With 50/50, both houses are normal life and are home. The child isn't being taken from normal life 3 or 4 nights a fortnight to visit somewhere else.

In our case, one partner stayed in the former marital home and another bought a house 2 minutes' walk away. We have 50/50 contact and whilst there is a fixed.contact schedule our child pops between the houses if they need something or to show the other parent something etc. Most belongings like clothes and books etc live in each house. The things that move between the houses like homework and books for music lessons and swimming kit are moved by the parents when the child is at school and without any effort or worry for the child. We discuss food, bedtime, screen issues, homework, school, health issues, child friendship issues, extra curricular activities etc etc so that things are similar at both houses. They can never be absolutely identical as that is impractical but there is zero conflict about child issues and frequent chats to sort things out in person and over text.

What sort of evidence are people looking for that this is a good idea and works? In our case my ex is a great co-parent who conscientiously supports our child. This seems ideal to me if separation happens. We're both women.

That was not my experience
I had a camp bed in the lounge ,and nowhere of my own to put my things .
Dad had remarried a woman with 3 DC and moved in to her home ,so I was on the camp bed in the lounge .
It was court ordered I had to go .
Impossible trying to sleep with adults watching TV

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Summerwhippet · 21/06/2025 13:08

Mauro711 · 21/06/2025 08:43

@5050canwormkwell this my experience from the people I know who do 50/50 too. The kids are all very happy and well rounded, the parents communicate well and attend things together with the kids, there is no fighting about money or resentment due to one parent taking the piss etc. I think this should be the goal for all separated families and I am glad it’s becoming the norm. It goes without saying g that it won’t be possible or healthy in every case of course, but it’s far better than putting 80% of childcare on the mother’s shoulders as a default.

That's all well and good ,when both parents equally buy what the child needs ,not one parent being the one to only put their hand in their pocket .
I love all the people on here saying 50/50 works well ..
Yet none have experienced it as a child , moving between homes , between families,it fucked my head up .from 14 to 17 that was my experience .
Both parents remarried with 3 siblings in one house and two in the other house .
Absolute nightmare for me ,they hated me ,and since I left home to go to university never saw any of the step siblings I was forced to share a bedroom with ever again.

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TizerorFizz · 21/06/2025 13:18

@5050canwormkwell If your 2 houses are bought you are either high earners or have inherited money. I can assure you very few people with a young family csn buy 2 houses in the same area. Look at London prices. Or even the SE - it’s simply not possible. 1 house has yo be divided amongst two adults and the sums rarely work out unless both partners are high earning or have inherited wealth.

Judges are trained in law. It is not up to female judges to side with women. They are not fools and have many years of legal experience to be a judge. Some magistrates who hear family cases are not trained to the same extent in family law and they are more likely to be less diligent. However I’m not aware of most family court judges being unsuitable. It’s actually a ludicrous assertion.

Mauro711 · 21/06/2025 13:41

Summerwhippet · 21/06/2025 13:08

That's all well and good ,when both parents equally buy what the child needs ,not one parent being the one to only put their hand in their pocket .
I love all the people on here saying 50/50 works well ..
Yet none have experienced it as a child , moving between homes , between families,it fucked my head up .from 14 to 17 that was my experience .
Both parents remarried with 3 siblings in one house and two in the other house .
Absolute nightmare for me ,they hated me ,and since I left home to go to university never saw any of the step siblings I was forced to share a bedroom with ever again.

From what I understand your parents didn't have 50-50 though? I also did say that it won't be possible or healthy in every case, in yours it wouldn't have been because your dad wasn't a good parent to say the least. That doesn't mean that it shouldn't be something to strive for with other families though, families where both parents are capable and loving. It is and has to be something that is considered in every family where the parents are separating, but ultimately it's a good thing that parents share the care equally in more cases because that shows that there are more healthy separated family dynamics out there than there isn't and it shouldn't be that the mother, by default, is expected to take on the lion's share because that is how it's always been done.

5050canwormkwell · 21/06/2025 19:57

TizerorFizz · 21/06/2025 13:18

@5050canwormkwell If your 2 houses are bought you are either high earners or have inherited money. I can assure you very few people with a young family csn buy 2 houses in the same area. Look at London prices. Or even the SE - it’s simply not possible. 1 house has yo be divided amongst two adults and the sums rarely work out unless both partners are high earning or have inherited wealth.

Judges are trained in law. It is not up to female judges to side with women. They are not fools and have many years of legal experience to be a judge. Some magistrates who hear family cases are not trained to the same extent in family law and they are more likely to be less diligent. However I’m not aware of most family court judges being unsuitable. It’s actually a ludicrous assertion.

Whether you can afford to buy two houses in the same area surely depends as well on how expensive the area is. If it's not an epecially expensive area in the first place, and you hadn't bought the most expensive house possible on both your salaries, then there's no reason to think both families can't afford to live nearby after divorce.

Sofiewoo · 21/06/2025 20:31

Why are you asking when 50/50 became the norm if you had 50/50 with your dad?
And if you didn’t and had every other weekend with a shit dad I’m not sure how that’s relevant to 50/50 being a starting point for most families now?

Both parents remarried with 3 siblings in one house and two in the other house .
Absolute nightmare for me ,they hated me ,and since I left home to go to university never saw any of the step siblings I was forced to share a bedroom with ever again.

You are letting your own family setup cloud your judgment here. In what way would not seeing your father and only being with your mother, who remarried, be better if you didn’t have a bond with either?

TizerorFizz · 21/06/2025 20:39

@5050canwormkwell That was my point but when people only have, say, 20% equity in a fairly expensive house in the SE or London it won’t stretch to 2 houses nearby and this means either both parents need to be high earning or one or both parents need to move away or compromise on size of property. This is frequently a barrier to 50:50 in expensive housing areas. The money and logistics don’t add up and parents have to compromise on one family house and somewhere not very suitable or miles away.

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