Sick of being nice to not be considered a bigot.

[Chichianti]

I used to consider myself left wing. I don’t even know what what means anymore. I don’t want any good human beings to suffer or live unassisted lives in poverty.

However I’ve hit my 40s and now want all rapists and murdered - especially of women - to be absolutely yeeted from this country and the earth. I don’t care how. Death penalty, deportation, life imprisonment.
im just beyond sick of men that rape and murder women. Kill them, deport them, put them away for the rest of their lives. I don’t give a fuck about their wellbeing or their skin colour. White men or black
men. Any man who rapes or murders women.

Throw them into the sea to drown. I don’t care if its
inhumane. Just rid the earth of men who rape
and murder.

Kill all rapists and child murderers. Fuck their human rights.

I am horrified at the never ending rape and or murder of women . Just this afternoon the trial of a postman who decapitated, chopped up his 21 yrs girlfriend. Sickening and it keeps happening .

I actually think life long incarceration is far worse than death.

@Chichianti i'm afraid your comment about how you used to be left-wing really made me laugh

Like left-wing makes you automatically virtuous or something!
😂😂😂😂

maybe I'm no longer a right wing coconut or uncle Tom or whatever those types of insults are on now. (I stopped reading much politics after lockdown).

editing to add - were you left-wing or were you just pretending to be so nobody called you right wing?

I hope you don't think that the other people you meet on your charity endeavours must automatically be left wing. Your post reads like there's a link between the good things you did and being left wing.

Remind me of a religious person at work who asked me why I was helping at the food bank when I don't believe in God – bonus points to anyone who can figure that one out 🤷🏻‍♀️

@CurlewKate and @Biomic , the Casey report doesn’t agree with you I don’t think, but calls for better monitoring of ethnicity. So the evidence is clearer.

The Labour voting people said to encourage mass immigration from countries with dodgy human and women's rights and said you're a bigot if you don't like it. Then set about repressing what was going on, especially as their Labour Councils are controlled by the same people. And you will still be called a bigot and a racist even in the face of this report.

I think that what has shocked a lot of people is:

A] the sheer scale of the crimes committed by those largely Pakistani men;
B] the fact that accusations against them were silenced on grounds of cultural sensitivity.

I share the outrage about B. The first point's also a valid one. If you were to count the number of victims and apportion them by ethnicity of the perpetrators, you would find a strong bias. It's misleading to say, for example, "only 10% of sex criminals" if that 10% commits 80% of the sex crimes.

However, the customers who took part in the rapes were more evenly distributed as far as I know. Many of them were white bank managers, policemen, teachers, etc.

Going further, if you were able to count the victims of sex crimes committed abroad for the entertainment of pay-per-view perverts, you would find tens of thousands at least and the customers would be majority white.

The problem is men, of all ethnicities and cultural backgrounds, and their weird sexual entitlement. I'm not keen on the idea of killing them (even if we could identify them precisely and without error) but I certainly understand the impulse.

It wouldn’t, it would cost a lot more in the long run.

Yes spot on Dappy. God I feel the same. Is it the menopause? Used to consider myself a centrist slightly left of centre. Now when it comes to protecting women and young girls I’m right of Atilla the Hun. Eye roll at the left wing pathetic ness especially “respecting certain cultures” and letting off their treatment of women - the grooming gangs ,reluctant child brides and treatment of women in Afghanistan makes me so angry.

Think my mild mannered quiet non aggressive Dh who rarely swears feels the same when a man street harassed our teen he chased him down the street shouting “twat”. Never been more proud.

I find it shocking that some on the left still think referring to someone as right-wing or Reform, etc should be enough of an insult to end any disagreement and to shut down the issue. Unfortunately the Police and the media seem to act as though it should be which leaves some sectors of society feeling unheard.
I find it awful that political correctness has allowed men who have harmed these girls to evade justice and don't think any of us who say so are bigots for saying it

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This article gives a very comprehensive analysis.

I am 100% for the death penalty for murderers when there is concrete evidence. Or throw them in jail with only a bed and basic food and let them all kill each other

I don’t know about this particular case. But sex crimes in general are committed proportionate to the population. That is such a clumsy sentence-but you know what I mean.

Because that wouldn’t cause any issues for prison staff, would it?

Because humans shouldn't play God, that's why. If rapists were killed for their crime anyone could call rape and have their opponents killed. Either you create a society where pointing the finger is enough and innocent people are constantly murdered or you would have to have a higher burden of proof to justify that punishment, so in reality less rapists would be convincted. Both options are significantly worse than the current system.

What about a man or boy who was the victim of sexual abuse and was coerced into sexual assault, is he victim or perpetrator? Should he be killed too? Should women who sexually abuse be included?

Punitive populism is hugely on the rise and I can see why, but it's deeply damaging too, albeit in other ways.
Look into the state of affairs in many Latin American countries and you might change your mind somewhat on that merits of it.

I'm not morally opposed to the death penalty for the worst of the worst- Jeffrey Dahmer, for example. But I am opposed to it on the grounds that people are wrongly convicted and it's not much of a deterent and it's expensive for the state and depending on the method incredibly inhuman. Some US states still having firing squads on the books!

I wouldn’t get the staff involved. Food through a hole in the all and leave them to it like the animals they are!

Then afterwards trawling porn sites and ringing around to score drugs. No words sum how evil he is.

They did release data on this.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/03/10/foreigners-commit-up-to-quarter-of-sex-crimes/

every murderer on death row has been convicted on ‘concrete evidence’

it is estimated that 1 in 10 have been posthumously exonerated, and this is probably just the tip of the iceberg.

its a barbaric, morally backwards system and solves nothing

Personally, i think it's really important to deal with low level crime as it then has an effect on the higher level. New York managed to reduce crime levels significantly by doing it.
We also have a large level of crime committed by foreign nationals and just by deporting people instantly when they are convicted of committing a crime, would have a positive effect of crime rates.

Any data that’s not behind a pay wall?

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But this is the whole point. They aren’t animals.

The ideal scenario would be life (until death) in prison and hard labour for anyone who commits rape or murder.
Death is too easy. However currently we have a 5 year sentence if you are lucky with a comfy set up.