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Forcing guests to close toilet lid before flushing

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MerryBlimminXmas · 16/06/2025 09:15

In our house, we close the toilet lid before flushing. Reason being is that the poo/wee water spray will go absolutely everywhere if the lid is left open (lots of videos available online if anyone is interested).

The issue we have is that pretty much ALL guests don’t do this. Now, I don’t mind what people choose to do in their own homes and appreciate that the majority of the population are happy for everything in the vicinity of their loo to be covered in urine and faeces don’t bother to close the lid. However, I would much prefer it if they closed the lid before flushing in our house.

How can we make it happen? In a previous home, the flush button was literally behind the toilet lid, so it should have been easy to close the lid just to get to the button and people STILL left the lid up every time.

Don’t really want to put a sign up (would be annoying the majority of the time when we don’t have guests), nor to speak to people about it (cringe). Any ingenious ideas that could work? Surely we’re not the only people who prefer the lid closed - how have others made it work with guests?

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CatrionaBalfour · 16/06/2025 10:22

PetiteBlondeDuBoulevardBrune · 16/06/2025 10:08

Only solution is a self-closing lid, but as you said that is not perfect.

I’m like you, I hate when the lid is open when people flush and also hate when people leave it open when they leave. It just doesn’t look tidy - I don’t want to see the inside of the loo when entering the room.

Perhaps go in blindfolded.

Comefromaway · 16/06/2025 10:25

We are also a close the lid to flush household but I have also then trained my kids to lift it again to check everything has flushed properly and the toilet is clean for the next person (we have low water pressure).

FoxtrotOscarFoxtrotOscar · 16/06/2025 10:25

Attach a brick to the seat with a length of rope.
When the pisser/pooper stands up, the lid will drop down on its own.

CatrionaBalfour · 16/06/2025 10:26

Have a large screen in your entrance hall. When guests enter, and have been through the decontamination chamber, sit them down on a wipe down surface and show them one of your toilet spray videos.
The start to a great evening!

sparrowflewdown · 16/06/2025 10:26

We don't close the lid?! I can't remember that last time anyone was ill in my family?

Henrihetta · 16/06/2025 10:27

@MerryBlimminXmasYou cant control peoples toilet habits in your home, as many have said. If i were you id just go and clean the bathroom after the guests have left.

AngelinaFibres · 16/06/2025 10:27

MerryBlimminXmas · 16/06/2025 09:53

Thank you, something like this could work. Aren’t self-close lids quite slow though? I suspect that guests won’t wait for it to close before flushing. Perhaps a combination of this and some sort of delay mechanism to the flush… like a puzzle with a lock 😂

So they do a poo , close the lid, flush. Do they then lift the lid again to check that it's all safely gone or do they leave the lid down, never lift it again and hope for the best. If they lift it to check do they then use the filthy bog brush of doom to clear the streaks then flush( lid down) again

SupposesRoses · 16/06/2025 10:28

MerryBlimminXmas · 16/06/2025 09:59

Yes, I think the reactions to this thread are a good indicator of people will think if we were to talk to them! A mixture of bemusement and defensiveness (because even though we’d never actually say it, the implication will be clear that we think the way they use the loo at their home is unhygienic). That’s why we’re after a passive solution that just works and we don’t have to discuss / give any extra headspace to.

I think it's rather the overreach into what someone does in a private space than implicit criticism of what they do. I do shut the lid when flushing in my home and in the home of others, and I ask my children to. But I wouldn't dream of telling anyone else what do do and would wonder about my friends if they had a sign. Reducing the germs to some extent is enough.
With the toilet that won't flush unless closed, I would think that some people will assume it is broken and will leave it unflushed. So again, you'll need a sign.

TheNewVillageIdiot · 16/06/2025 10:30

Ilovegoldies · 16/06/2025 09:59

I close the lid, then open it to check everything that needs to be gone is gone. So it's open. I'm always nervous when I find a closed lid as you don't know what is hiding in there (especially in public loos 🤢)

Me too! If you close the lid, flush and go, then you can’t be sure that everything has gone, or that you’ve not left “marks”. It’s polite to check.

You can’t be sure that your guests don’t close to flush and then reopen.

Also it’s more convenient to arrive to an open toilet if you’re desperate!

HowDoYouSolveAProblemLikeMyRear · 16/06/2025 10:30

FancyCatSlave · 16/06/2025 10:10

I just can’t get past the mumsnet fear of poo and wee particles.
I spend my free time willingly shoveling shit of various animals and spent my teen years eating lunch while sat in the muck heap
at the yard because it was warm! Nothing bad happens from a bit of excreta exposure. I think it’s all part of a healthy immune system.

It’s just the weirdest thing to be bothered by to the extent you want to control how other people use loo. I think just don’t invite people to your home.

Do you also police nose picking, hand washing? Or just the toilet seat? Madness.

And how on earth do you manage to use the facilities anywhere else where the toilet seat has been freely left up?!

But don't lots of us have pet bugbears that bother us?

I'd be fine eating my lunch in a stable yard not far from the muck heap, but don't like the thought of flushing with the loo lid up.

I don't mind outdoor shoes downstairs or bare feet in the garden, but don't even like to share an ice-cream or a bottle of water with my children.

I like swimming in lakes and the sea, but am squeamish about swimming pools.

I thought it was normal to be a bit illogical about what bothers us?

loobylou10 · 16/06/2025 10:31

RedToothBrush · 16/06/2025 09:44

How can we make it happen?

You can't.

Get a grip and deal with it.

This. You sound a bit bonkers to be honest.

user2848502016 · 16/06/2025 10:31

We don’t close the lid when flushing and we are never sick so I think you need to chill a bit.
Your computer keyboard is probably dirtier than your toilet seat….

CatrionaBalfour · 16/06/2025 10:32

@HowDoYouSolveAProblemLikeMyRear
Things bother us which are not logical, you're right. At what point do you expect others to comply with requests which are quite illogical? Your examples only impact you.

RareGoalsVerge · 16/06/2025 10:33

I think if you need this level of control in your home you need to stop inviting guests to come to you and meet elsewhere eg at cafes etc.

It's ok to put a little notice by the flush button asking people to close the lid before flushing.

You could install a springloaded lid that closes automatically if not held open by the back of someone seated or by hand if someone is standing.

But ultimately it simply isn't reasonable to obsess about what people are doing in the lavatory to this extent.

MerryBlimminXmas · 16/06/2025 10:34

AngelinaFibres · 16/06/2025 10:27

So they do a poo , close the lid, flush. Do they then lift the lid again to check that it's all safely gone or do they leave the lid down, never lift it again and hope for the best. If they lift it to check do they then use the filthy bog brush of doom to clear the streaks then flush( lid down) again

This may send some posters into overdrive, but we don’t have a toilet brush guests can use!

MN debate done many times and I err on the side of them being gross poo-catchers. I absolutely do not want a toilet brush with Uncle Gerald’s shit on it in my bathroom. He can use balled up loo roll and/or flush a few more times if he has to. Never been a problem.

(I do have a brush that gets used in regular cleans to stop limescale building up, not for poo-smearing. It’s not accessible to visitors.)

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Twinkletoes127 · 16/06/2025 10:34

sparrowflewdown · 16/06/2025 10:26

We don't close the lid?! I can't remember that last time anyone was ill in my family?

Because you are a normal family.

Hdpr · 16/06/2025 10:34

I think you’re being ridiculous and controlling. Sorry OP. If you are like this you just can’t have people over

Perhapsanothertime · 16/06/2025 10:35

😂

just don’t have guests

CatrionaBalfour · 16/06/2025 10:35

Ok, we're onto the toilet brush now. OP, I think you need to step back from all of this.

Tryingtokeepgoing · 16/06/2025 10:36

MerryBlimminXmas · 16/06/2025 09:34

No idea! Maybe, maybe not and there’s really no way of telling. But I would prefer not to have FIL’s wee fine sprayed over the entire loo if it can be avoided, surely that’s not unreasonable?

We’re doing up the downstairs loo and looking for ideas to address this issue.

Th only solution I can see is to install one of the Toto washlet seats, that, along with bidet etc, are also available with automatic opening / closing!

https://eu.toto.com/en/products/washlets/TCF802C2G

WASHLET® RW auto flush, TCF802C2G | TOTO Europe

https://eu.toto.com/en/products/washlets/TCF802C2G

MissMoneyFairy · 16/06/2025 10:37

MerryBlimminXmas · 16/06/2025 09:36

I was hoping for an engineering solution, like a button that can’t be pressed unless the lid is down. Or something we haven’t thought of yet…

You should go on Dragons Den,

AmelieSummer25 · 16/06/2025 10:37

MerryBlimminXmas · 16/06/2025 09:29

Surely the clue is the fact that the lid is always down when they enter the bathroom. Every time they visit. You’d think leaving the bathroom as you found it is pretty standard? Some of these guests are family who have been going to our toilets/bathrooms for ~10 years!

Look at that. They've been using your bathroom for /@ years ! No kne died yet

you'd be better off getting help for your anxiety!

Gyozas · 16/06/2025 10:38

MerryBlimminXmas · 16/06/2025 09:36

I was hoping for an engineering solution, like a button that can’t be pressed unless the lid is down. Or something we haven’t thought of yet…

Jesus Christ…

girljulian · 16/06/2025 10:38

MerryBlimminXmas · 16/06/2025 10:15

Think you missed the let in my original post that said that people STILL left the lid up. It’s like they lowered it a bit / reached round to it to access the button instead of doing the obvious thing and lowering it.

Interesting to hear that some people lower the lid to flush and then lift it up again. I think you’re very much in the minority though and I very much doubt any of our visitors do this.

I always close the lid to flush and then open it again because I want to make sure the flush has worked fully. And also I hate having to lift the lid before I use the loo.

Growlybear83 · 16/06/2025 10:39

😳😳😳 Sometimes I open a Mumsnet thread and think I must have slipped into the twilight zone. My flabber is well and truly ghasted 😆😆😆

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