No more Musk, Melania MIA and TACOs for tea: The Idiocracy beds down - Trump thread #144

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Second '100 days' working out much like the first, but with a Vance-proof Pope, a bigly white elephant plane, a few more legal push backs and way more grifting.

Previous thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5327971-idiotam-habemus-trumpum-the-bigly-xxx-trump-thread-143

yeah real i wonder whos getting custody of jd vance

More for Trump for ponder on whilst he's golfing this weekend... Zelenskyy's cards

Slava Ukraini!

BREAKING: Ukrainian drones flew out of grain train car hatches and destroyed 13 Russian tanks and more than a 100 armored vehicles and other equipment being transported by the Russian train in occupied southern Ukraine.
The hatches appear to have been opened by remote control, again.

This successful attack on the Russian train of military equipment is reported by the Defense Forces of Southern Ukraine.
Details on the specific method using drones hidden in the grain wagons are reported by Russian eyewitnesses.

bsky.app/profile/igorsushko.bsky.social/post/3lr27qkdt322x

I was disturbed by a terrible squeaking and squeaking, this afternoon, as mummy magpie and daddy magpie (thugs, the pair of them) evicted a couple of baffled youngsters from their nest. I suspect that Vance might undergo the same fate

The pictures of the National Guard being deployed in LA are quite scary!

Meanwhile the dear leader is at the UFC…..

And Hegseth is threatening to send in the marines!

They've been waiting for the opportunity to do this.

I wonder who Hegseth has included in his group chats this time?

Notable difference between the intervention of the National Guard in LA now, compared to the lack of interest/involvement of federal government during the LA fires. Bastards.

Absolutely.

They (DC in general - both sides of the aisle at times) couldn't have given a fuck back then.

Sorry. Vlad, despite Donnies best efforts, it looks like you really need to stop all road and rail traffic and inspect every single container.

And when you've dealt with the ones on the move, you'll have to look for ones that may have been parked up to 3 years ago. Since we know Ukraine is capable of strategic thinking. And the success (and secrecy) of the 18 month mission last week proves that.

UK posters will be less able to grasp the scale of that task. US posters are more prepared. Imaging having to scour every state, for trailers or parked railway trucks ?

Meanwhile, Ukraine only needs to launch a few sporadic attacks.

From Angelenos on Bluesky:

The most vital thing you can do right now is spread this message offline to normies. There is no "unrest", there's a protest. It has 400 people. LA does worse when the Lakers come in 3rd in a season.
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Absolutely wild that LA has deployed LAPD, DHS has deployed both ICE and CBP, now the white house is calling in the national guard. You'd think the wildest riot in history was going down in LA right now, but it's actually just a bunch of protestors mostly just standing around holding signs.
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The spin has already started as if our entire city is in chaos. I went from Burbank all the way over to Koreatown on surface streets tonight and jackshit was happening. The CNN coverage makes it look like world war 3 and that’s what Trump wants so he and his fucking goons can come shoot Angelenos.

Football fans in US being caught up in immigration raids around FIFA’s Club World Cup take evasive action, some decide to stay away.

A far cry from: “Everyone’s welcome” ⚽️ 👮

Soccer Fans Fear Being Targets of U.S. Immigration Raids https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/08/world/americas/world-cup-soccer-trump-immigration.html?unlocked_article_code=1.NU8.2iaB.Sa2F8PTGq0BY&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

I am sure Oscar Wilde would have an appropriate epithet about the most corrupt sporting event in the world being held in the most corrupt democracy in the world.

Just heard from someone who is on the ground that news stations in the US have been forbidden to show any footage of the National Guards’ actions. Why am I not surprised at this censorship?

Does trump not realise that when he turns America into a version of Russia he will have to become a version of Putin, ie constantly in fear of his life.

from the guardian just now:

Trump praises national guard, though troops have not arrived
President Trump has praised the efforts of the national guard in calming the protests in Los Angeles, despite the city’s mayor saying troops have yet to arrive.

In a post on his social media platform TruthSocial, Trump said:
Great job by the National Guard in Los Angeles after two days of violence, clashes and unrest. We have an incompetent Governor (Newscum) and Mayor (Bass) who were, as usual (just look at how they handled the fires, and now their VERY SLOW PERMITTING disaster. Federal permitting is complete!), unable to to handle the task.
These Radical Left protests, by instigators and often paid troublemakers, will NOT BE TOLERATED. Also, from now on, MASKS WILL NOT BE ALLOWED to be worn at protests. What do these people have to hide, and why??? Again, thank you to the National Guard for a job well done!”

However just an hour after Trump’s post, Bass tweeted: “I want to thank LAPD and local law enforcement for their work tonight. I also want to thank Gavin Newsom for his support.
“Just to be clear, the National Guard has not been deployed in the City of Los Angeles.”

About 2,000 troops could be deployed to the city in California, after an immigration crackdown led to protests that have run into two days.
The time in LA is approaching 5am, and it is still yet to be seen whether the unrest will run into a third day.

Meanwhile, intrigued by Stewart Lees comments on "Strong Message Here" (with Armando Ianucci) here is Kermit addressing this years Maryland graduates.

If only the second amendment were as worthless as the first, eh ?

I think this has not been verified by any news organisation. However, Ukraine has posted new footage of last weeks' attack on Russian planes.

On 23 February, I posted this:

So, a thing we may need to talk about is the well-established concept of the "IMF Riot".

It was an explicit and (quietly) admitted part of the tactics of the Chicago Boys and others of that school in the 1980s and 1990s, as part of their shock doctrine to break any status quo and create openings for opportunists.

They would recommend that a government – sometimes an unsuspecting one – made economic changes which would cause extreme financial and social discontent.

This would, if all went to plan, boil up into civil unrest. The government could then announce crackdowns and declare martial law or whatever, and take centralised authoritarian control of the country – "to restore law and order," you understand.

And that would be it. The regime and controls would then remain in power indefinitely.

In that era they used the IMF as the vehicle for delivering the "advice" to the government, hence the name. But the tactic of deliberately provoking unrest in order to have a pretext for cracking down is as old as the hills.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5275361-an-unholy-trinity-or-just-a-seedy-threesome-trump-musk-and-putin-trump-thread-138?page=14&reply=142389422

National Guard to arrive in LA 'within 24 hours', as governor calls Trump's move 'inflammatory'
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cvg7vxx888kt

12:45

Earlier, US Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth warned that active-duty Marines will be mobilised in Los Angeles (LA) "if violence continues".
This comes after he said on X that his department was deploying the National Guard "IMMEDIATELY” - we've now heard that they will arrive in LA within 24 hours.
Protests continued into the early hours of Sunday morning in the city and it remains unclear whether Hegseth will follow through with his threat to deploy Marines.
In a post on X, California Governor Gavin Newsom says Hegseth's threat demonstrates "deranged behaviour".

13:17
Unrest follows recent immigration raids
Rachel Uranga, who covers immigration for the Los Angeles Times, told the BBC News channel earlier that the unrest was not widespread across the city and involved "a couple of hundred people in certain locations".
There were clashes in the city of Paramount, where the population is more than 80% Hispanic, and in part of downtown LA nearby to a detention centre.
California Governor Gavin Newsom says the government was conducting "chaotic immigration sweeps" across the country, and accuses it of "sowing chaos" in order to have an "excuse to escalate".
The White House says the operations "are essential to halting and reversing the invasion of illegal criminals", and accuses California Democrat leaders of being "feckless".

Who has the authority to deploy the National Guard?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cvg7vxx888kt

11:33
Each US state has its own contingent of National Guard forces. The state governor is usually in charge of deploying members, although it can be asked to work for the federal government.

Presidents can use rarely-used legal mechanisms to activate the National Guard. In this case, Trump relied on a federal law - Title 10 - which allows the president to federalise troops under three circumstances.

These include: where the US is invaded or in danger of invaded, where there is a rebellion or danger of a rebellion against the government's authority, and where the president is "unable with the regular forces" to execute US laws.

It is not yet clear if presidents can use this mechanism without the order of the state's governor. California Governor Gavin Newsom has called the move from Trump "purposefully inflammatory".

Despite this, the interim US attorney for the Central District of California, Bill Essayli, has said the 2,000 National Guard members deployed by Trump will arrive in Los Angeles within 24 hours.

Yes - I looked for news verification after posting and haven't found anything yet. Sorry if I've misled and hope it turns out to be true.

LA is my (former) home town. I'm a born Angeleno. This 'invasion' makes me sick.

The Guard has arrived in LA. I don't know about a 'news blackout' but the local station has reported on their arrival. At this point they're just 'staged' in the area.

Another protest is scheduled for today at 2pm PDT, so we'll see what happens then. The protests have not been 'violent' as Scrotus et al have stated. There have been isolated incidents, but unfortunately that does happen.

Gavin is furious, but it sounds like there's not much he can do.

Just pinged an old friend in Orange County ... just stay safe y'all.

Well it's not like there's been anything in the news cycle in the last week that Trump might want to distract from, is there?

His break-up with Musk, his pal Vlad making him looking foolish...