Brigette macron hits Emmanuel

[Stressedout150]

has anyone seen this on the news?! What do we all think, it’s all a bit bizarre

Apologies, I was watching on my tiny phone screen and obviously need new glasses.

I didn't say 'it can't be true'. I said if it were true, Macron is in about the strongest position possible to get rid of his abuser. So while we can let our imaginations take flight and suppose all sorts of things, in all likelihood, M president has his reasons for remaining in his relationship, that we can only guess at, and fortunately for him, one of those will not be a lack of choice.

Female on male violence is usually downplayed on MN because “women are not as strong/powerful as men” and “women cannot really physically harm men” so not surprised at some of the replies on here. I wonder how women who think that really believe it’s justifiable for an adult to hit another, regardless of the strength or power at play. It’s so disturbing to read comments on here suggesting that Macron cannot possibly be the victim of domestic abuse because he is a powerful politician.

I’ve also always wondered about the people (including many women) who have romanticised the Macrons marriage as a refreshing symbol of older female empowerment, men marry younger women all the time so it’s a double standard to criticise her etc. In what universe is grooming a 15 year old child ‘empowering’?

They have the same age gap, though.
So many men have much younger wives, and while there are some that find the age gap between older men and younger women a bit strange, the judgement is often far less than for the Macrons.

To "get rid" of an abuser you have to realise and then admit to yourself and others that you are being abused.
I imagine in some cases it is so hard to believe because its so unbelieveable and lets face it is BM was able to convince a 15 year old into a relationship with her then she can sure as Hell gaslight him into thinking thats he's the problem.

Even if he has the money, would that make him less of a victim if he is being abused? Victims should never be compared. And yes they are fanciful imaginations because we don’t know what is going on - you no more than me. But if he is being abused he is as deserving of empathy and understanding as any victim.

Melania wasn't 15 and he wasn't in a position of power over her when they got into the relationship. Th issue with The Macrons is how they met, not just the age gap

There's an obvious "issue" with the Macrons though, which makes them a bit different from the usual May to December relationship. As discussed extensively above...

I doubt we'll read or hear much more about it after today. The visit will go on as if nothing has happened. Smiles for everyone from both of them in Hanoi and elsewhere, playing the game. If they appear together at walkabouts or functions etc. that is. It must be such an ordeal for M to have to do this in full view now. She doesn't seem to care much does she? The more humiliation the better maybe. Which in fact might be achieved if she DOESN'T show up.

I wonder if the security detail will reassess risk now. Or is domestic abuse not seen as a risk to the President?

It was an awful, awful scene in full view of everyone. I imagine they had a very long flight, so either something exploded just as they were getting off, or it had been simmering all the way on the journey. I know, I sound like I'm writing a book, but I'm trying to picture how and why it happened at the last minute. Unless they were in separate parts of the plane and only joined up on exiting.

So humiliating for him, and she doesn't and didn't give a damn who saw it.

What's your problem since they've been together for a long time now? Macron is one of the most powerful men in the world. Hardly vulnerable. He could have walked a long time ago.

This. And I genuinely don't understand how some posters won't don't get that.

Surely it's obvious.

She’s like an abusive mother who has whacked her child round the head to bring them into line.

She’s an awful human.

Omg, you are so right!!

https://news.sky.com/story/video-shows-emmanuel-macron-being-pushed-in-face-by-wife-13374861

EM can afford lawyers and to pay off his wife.

But his presidency would be dominated by his divorce and details about his relationship so I understand why he would feel unable to do it while being a politician. She knows all of his secrets and needs him to play along with the idea that their age gap isn’t weird.

TrumP and Melania have the same gap but Melania wasn’t 15 when they got together. You can spot the posters who don’t know what 15 year old boys are like - they think that they know everything but still need protecting from their impulses and stubbornness.

She will know everything about him. Everything since he was 15.

She might know things he doesn’t want made public. She might threaten him with that.

I wonder if she is ill in some way? That behaviour looks like mental illness to me, or dementia.

Agree. I didn’t see her anywhere near them when the “push thingy” happened. I think she hadn’t been on the plane.

No it isn't. She wasn't even on the plane.

Please refuse jury service if you are ever asked.

I'm not sure how understanding and empathic he'll think it if this sort of speculation about his personal life leads to a lack of confidence in him in his professional capacity. Which it inevitably will if people persist in painting a picture of a man compromised because he is under the power of his wife. If the intention here is to be supportive of a 'victim' its probably better to accept his account of events.

Hmmm… I think I will reserve judgement until we find out what he’s done to deserve it (if we ever do!)

I wonder whether another woman has caught his eye

He may not have been able to walk away from the marriage for any number of reasons.

Half my family is French and they mentioned to me some time ago that it’s known that he had an affair years ago. However it is not a case of “cherchez la femme”. His wife may have material that would be highly damaging to him.

The media over there tend not to report on these things as I think the French generally do not really care or find these private affairs as salacious as the British public.

Anyway. She will be 80 in a few years and he is not yet 50. How much mileage is realistically left in this marriage…

Regarding BM knowing where the bodies are if he wants to divorce, the privacy laws in France are very strict, and I would hope that blowing the whistle on anything to do with their private lives would be non, non.

As to their time together whilst he was a politician, well that's kind of fair game and could be a fascinating read, but their private life would be out of bounds, I think!

Anyway, I don't think the French people are as pearl clutching as other countries including our own, so I doubt anyone would care much. But the battle between Macron's party and the RN could be ignited, and would make things very interesting.

Oh look, sorry - my imagination is running away with itself today.

No one deserves to be hit in the face by their spouse

what the fuck.