Brigette macron hits Emmanuel

[Stressedout150]

has anyone seen this on the news?! What do we all think, it’s all a bit bizarre

They were not alone so the story will be leaked for sure looks like they were in the middle of a massive row shocking behaviour

No one has said that what she did was acceptable, least of all me.

In any direction, surely?

That's not uncommon in abuse victims. It often goes on for years before they get help and support and manage to leave. He's been with her since he was a boy, remember.

The expression on his face didn't suggest he found it acceptable.

What are you talking about? Who are you preaching to? Stop proselytising.

@Lavenderfarmcottage so are you saying he might have deserved it? Because that’s a dangerous thought process you’ve got there.

The only time it’s OK to shove someone in the face is if they’re physically attacking you and you need to push them away, and we can clearly see that wasn’t happening in this instance.

I’ve taken the same stance as you upthread. All I can add is that reactive abuse is a thing, and a terrible thing. I’m in no way saying that’s what this, no way but I’m trying to stay open to the back story even though I’ll likely never come out. That does not mean I excuse the abuse obviously.

This.

Its a “wrong” relationship that has been normalised. The dynamic will always have something off with it.

It was your point that saying it was "unacceptable" wasn't going to do anything because it was acceptable to Macron.

Yes, yes, quite right but .....eeeuw. The fact that they have been so coy about when they started with the sex looks dodgy as hell, quite apart from the fact she was 39 when he was at the age of consent, 15 in France.

I'm wondering WTF his parents were thinking.

Exactly. She was his first relationship, maybe his only relationship.

Abusers are sly. They can make their victim believe abuse is normal or that the abuse is the victim's fault.

I agree.

I mean if we turn it round to maybe she told him she didn't like his haircut, asked for a threesome with Trump and Zelensky or ate his last Malteaser nobody here would be speculating they were sound and valid reasons for him to smack her in the face so I really can't understand why some PPs think otherwise when he's the one being hit.

But that’s just the point. us saying their relationship isn’t unacceptable doesn’t change anything because we can’t make him leave her. He is still with her, ergo it’s accepted.

Wait for someone to say that's probably just his resting face and he was loving it really.

Tbf his parents did the best they could to break them up.

@nomas that doesn’t mean he thinks it’s OK though, does it. How many times have you heard victims excuse their abusers - he/she is busy, stressed, tired, depressed, can’t help him/herself, doesn’t mean it, regrets it, hates him/herself afterwards. And I had no idea that being powerful meant you were immune to being a victim. Who knew!!

Not really, we are condemning her behaviour, whether or not Macron thinks it's ok. Even if he does, it's not ok.

Of course we all condemn her. Doesn’t make him not accept it though.

I’m responding to your message to me telling me it’s acceptable to him and that I shouldn’t comment on it!

Can you imagine being his parents. I have a 15 year old son...the thought of a 39 year old teacher or any 39 year old trying it on with him or even thinking about him in a romantic way is horrific.

I can't imagine how awful that must have been for them.

If someone did that to me I’d end it there and then, even a marriage. I have zero tolerance for any kind of physical abuse. I left a boyfriend when he made his hand into a fist. He didn’t touch me (it was more of an angry gesture) but just that finished it on the spot.

I don't see how anyone can watch this and say it was it was joking around/who knows what happened, I really don't. EM certainly wasn't in on the joke.

Perhaps some of us who have been unfortunate enough to be around or experience violence are more aware of the "tells". My mother went for my fathers face more than once.

That’s not what I said. What I’m trying to say to you is you saying it’s unacceptable doesn’t change the fact that he is still with her, much as we’d all like it if he left her.