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Any sympathy for the British drug mule in Georgia?

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mids2019 · 18/05/2025 07:55

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14723481/drug-mule-suspect-company-director-Chinese-retailers-Amazon.html

I was reading about this girl and actually do have a little symapthy. She is obviously vain, stupid, misguidedly ambitious but I don't know whether she is real player in the drug trade and has probably been groomed into carrying drugs by men promising her the earth.

The penalties for drug smuggling are understandably harsh on Georgia but should the UK try and get her to serve a sentence in the UK?

Drug arrest girl 'in China scam to foil Amazon ban'

Culley, 18, is said to have received £550 in return for her passport information, which was then used to open a business account on the digital marketplace.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14723481/drug-mule-suspect-company-director-Chinese-retailers-Amazon.html

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Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 18/05/2025 12:45

Being 18 is not an excuse.
Did she believe what she was doing was legal?
No.
🤷‍♀️

nomas · 18/05/2025 12:46

Gloriia · 18/05/2025 12:35

I've no idea why they arrest these young stupid mules at the airport. Surely it isn't rocket science to involve intelligence sevices, follow them and also arrest the people who are going to be receiving the drugs.

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Exactly, you have no idea. Fancy thinking you know better than the customs and police on how to do their job.

Reetpetitenot · 18/05/2025 12:47

Both these women are obviously a bit, erm, thick, to put it politely. How on earth does someone not realise that travelling to Philippines, Bangkok, then Georgia, alone, as a very young woman, might look a bit suspicious.

And they knew they were doing something illegal. 12kg? Come on, now. The bit about selling passport info for £500 and becoming a company director for a Chinese business rejected by Amazon - not dodgy at all.... Bet these chumps are Reform voters too (with reference to illegally supplying info to allow an o/s company to set up in the UK - 'they're coming over here, taking our jobs, ruining local business etc etc)

MissFenellaPrism · 18/05/2025 12:47

Gloriia · 18/05/2025 12:43

You minimised what she was involved in. 'Groomed by an ideology' Confused, she willingly joined a terrorist organisation and we know she was present if not actually involved in murders and suicide vest preparation.
Getting on a plane and smuggling cannabis is clearly illegal too but Beggum deserves all she got.

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I did NOT minimise what she was involved in. Please retract that.
I was very clear about what she was involved in and that she should be punished.
Do not wilfully misinterpret my posts.

Gloriia · 18/05/2025 12:48

nomas · 18/05/2025 12:44

She was a child, you’d be singing a different tune if it was your own.

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My 14yr old child wouldn't ever have been able to leave the country unknown to us and they certainly wouldn't have joined a terrorist organisation. A quick check of her computer would surely have given them clues as to her horrific views and intentions.

XxSideshowAuntSallyx · 18/05/2025 12:49

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Gloriia · 18/05/2025 12:49

nomas · 18/05/2025 12:46

Exactly, you have no idea. Fancy thinking you know better than the customs and police on how to do their job.

Well why arrest these foolish young kids at customs and not actually follow the trail?

MissFenellaPrism · 18/05/2025 12:50

Gloriia · 18/05/2025 12:48

My 14yr old child wouldn't ever have been able to leave the country unknown to us and they certainly wouldn't have joined a terrorist organisation. A quick check of her computer would surely have given them clues as to her horrific views and intentions.

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Exactly. Plus the father had been at an anti American demonstration with flag burning etc.
She is definitely guilty, and these Islamist regimes and organisations are a scourge on a global scale. There isn't really a comparison other than to say SB was definitely younger and groomed. No evidence this woman was.

Wtafdidido · 18/05/2025 12:52

No and another stupid girl has been caught today! Vain and self obsessed looking for popularity, glamour and easy money. Typical of their generation

PiggyPigalle · 18/05/2025 12:52

Gloriia · 18/05/2025 12:43

You minimised what she was involved in. 'Groomed by an ideology' Confused, she willingly joined a terrorist organisation and we know she was present if not actually involved in murders and suicide vest preparation.
Getting on a plane and smuggling cannabis is clearly illegal too but Beggum deserves all she got.

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Yes, it's not so much what she was when she went out there, it's because of what's she's become, due to conditioning.

Redflamingos · 18/05/2025 12:53

Lordlaughaloud · 18/05/2025 12:39

A pp asked what if it was your child, well of course most would help their child caught in that situation and most likely want leniency for their daughter, but that doesn’t make it ok.

The judiciary is supposed to be fair and impartial, it’s not here to act as a parent to offenders whether they’re 18 or 80 ,hence we don’t allow families to be judges in cases involving their kids!

And to rightly so - I mean plenty off parents would try get their kid off even if it was a murder charge!

So while I can understand it’s only natural for her family to want leniency and try protect her, no I personally don’t have much sympathy for her. I do wonder what kind of upbringing she’s had though so that does make me feel a degree of sympathy of her parents are neglectful.

Exactly. Of course her family will try to minimise the offence, will try to garner sympathy. But that doesn’t mean the rest of us should have any sympathy for such a greedy and law-defying individual. She absolutely needs to punished.

MissFenellaPrism · 18/05/2025 12:55

PiggyPigalle · 18/05/2025 12:52

Yes, it's not so much what she was when she went out there, it's because of what's she's become, due to conditioning.

Which is why I didn't minimise it, and agree that she should be punished.
I actually also think she should be constantly monitored.

Redflamingos · 18/05/2025 12:56

Gloriia · 18/05/2025 12:35

I've no idea why they arrest these young stupid mules at the airport. Surely it isn't rocket science to involve intelligence sevices, follow them and also arrest the people who are going to be receiving the drugs.

Edited

Of course these mules need to be punished! We absolutely need deterrents to stop others doing such stupid and illegal things!

Gloriia · 18/05/2025 12:56

Wtafdidido · 18/05/2025 12:52

No and another stupid girl has been caught today! Vain and self obsessed looking for popularity, glamour and easy money. Typical of their generation

Exactly. 2 a penny 18yr olds getting arrested meanwhile the serious organised crime people are laughing their heads off.

PiggyPigalle · 18/05/2025 12:57

PoodlesRUs · 18/05/2025 12:17

They better make sure as hell no male is left alone with her with they're from legal, medical, the prison, the embassy etc. She'll be desperately trying to get pregnant at any cost. Failing that, she'll likely start throwing allegations around about harrassment or mistreatment given she has zero personal responsibility and the way she's tried to wriggle out of stuff. The family already tried to get sympathy by saying she wants to be a nurse but all she's done is some random college course and no actual nursing course or training. They are now claiming she is pregnant...sure, you are a believeable and creditable person, not.

The narrative in the media would be very different if this were a Georgian or Thai man or woman who had smuggled drugs into the UK.

She claims she is already pregnant. In Georgia, female prisoners keep the child for three years, then it's offered to the family for adoption.
Her middle aged mother would be thrilled to be raising a toddler, I'm sure.

ACynicalDad · 18/05/2025 12:57

Not a lot

Redflamingos · 18/05/2025 12:58

Imagine if we didn’t punish mules like her. That will only encourage more people to take the risk and transport huge amounts of illegal drugs.

Of course we should also go after others involved but EVERYONE knowingly involved in this illegal drug trafficking needs to be punished.

Gloriia · 18/05/2025 12:58

Redflamingos · 18/05/2025 12:56

Of course these mules need to be punished! We absolutely need deterrents to stop others doing such stupid and illegal things!

I didn't say they shouldn't be punished. I said customs should follow the trail before arresting them and also get the people behind it.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 18/05/2025 12:59

mids2019 · 18/05/2025 09:12

I am split.

I think looking at her in court it is quite obvious reality has caught up with her and she is proverbally shitting herself.

I think there needs to be punishment but for her life to be literally over for a single episode of drug smuggling? I don't know.

It is a falling that those that put her up to it may not face any sanction and I really do think she probably does have a low IQq coupled with a myriad of mental health issues including being a fanticist.

It may be only one episode of drug smuggling, @mids2019, but how many lives are going to be damaged by the drugs she has smuggled? She is not the victim here.

Drug smuggling is not the sort of silly thing everyone does when young - and surely anyone with even half a brain knows how illegal drug smuggling is, and that the penalties can be severe - as they should be!

I have no sympathy for her whatsoever.

Redflamingos · 18/05/2025 13:00

Gloriia · 18/05/2025 12:56

Exactly. 2 a penny 18yr olds getting arrested meanwhile the serious organised crime people are laughing their heads off.

Well, parents need to do a better job of raising their 18 year olds!

MissFenellaPrism · 18/05/2025 13:01

Redflamingos · 18/05/2025 12:56

Of course these mules need to be punished! We absolutely need deterrents to stop others doing such stupid and illegal things!

I agree. It's just a carte blanche for greedy people otherwise.

anyolddinosaur · 18/05/2025 13:02

If their countries will take them I'd happily send all foreign criminals to serve their sentence in their own country's prisons, provided those prisons are not inhumane. This young woman deserves to be locked up, she doesnt deserve the soft of suffering that is likely to mean in Georgia.

Redflamingos · 18/05/2025 13:03

Gloriia · 18/05/2025 12:58

I didn't say they shouldn't be punished. I said customs should follow the trail before arresting them and also get the people behind it.

Yes, of course. EVERYONE involved in illegal drug trafficking needs to be punished. We need deterrents to stop others doing the same. That was a huge amount of drugs she was carrying - just think how many lives would have been affected…

SinnerBoy · 18/05/2025 13:03

There's a girl of a similar age, who smuggled a load into Newcastle, she's just got a suspended sentence and a community order.

I'm mystified as to the destination, we have some Georgian friends and they told me marijuana growing and smuggling is rife, in Georgia. A lot gets smuggled into Russia and the cops and customs on both sides get paid off.

It's like smuggling spaghetti into Italy.

XxSideshowAuntSallyx · 18/05/2025 13:05

Not sure why my previous comment has been hidden and needs checking when it was only about the Peru 2 (maybe the link to the news article🤷‍♀️).

Does anyone remember them? One sold her story and wrote a book after she got out, appears on tv and the papers talking about it. The other has lived a quiet life.

I know which one this one is likely to follow. A stint on Celebrity big brother or Love Island maybe?!