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Any sympathy for the British drug mule in Georgia?

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mids2019 · 18/05/2025 07:55

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14723481/drug-mule-suspect-company-director-Chinese-retailers-Amazon.html

I was reading about this girl and actually do have a little symapthy. She is obviously vain, stupid, misguidedly ambitious but I don't know whether she is real player in the drug trade and has probably been groomed into carrying drugs by men promising her the earth.

The penalties for drug smuggling are understandably harsh on Georgia but should the UK try and get her to serve a sentence in the UK?

Drug arrest girl 'in China scam to foil Amazon ban'

Culley, 18, is said to have received £550 in return for her passport information, which was then used to open a business account on the digital marketplace.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14723481/drug-mule-suspect-company-director-Chinese-retailers-Amazon.html

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mumofoneAlonebutokay · 18/05/2025 13:06

Yes, I have sympathy for both her and Shamima Begum.

Trillie · 18/05/2025 13:07

Real players don’t walk around with drugs on them, that’s what mules are for.

Gloriia · 18/05/2025 13:07

Redflamingos · 18/05/2025 13:03

Yes, of course. EVERYONE involved in illegal drug trafficking needs to be punished. We need deterrents to stop others doing the same. That was a huge amount of drugs she was carrying - just think how many lives would have been affected…

She was caught at the airport. How on earth is EVERYONE involved in drug trafficking going to be punished when the police don't use some common sense and follow these people?!

PiggyPigalle · 18/05/2025 13:08

MissFenellaPrism · 18/05/2025 12:55

Which is why I didn't minimise it, and agree that she should be punished.
I actually also think she should be constantly monitored.

The security services are already stretched. They must have more on her than we know, as something like 400 Isis jihadis have returned, most have disappeared without trace.
She also has a Pakistani passport, but won't go there.

LondonJax · 18/05/2025 13:08

Gloriia · 18/05/2025 12:58

I didn't say they shouldn't be punished. I said customs should follow the trail before arresting them and also get the people behind it.

I don't know why they don't follow them but I'm guessing it's, maybe, because you then can't prove they brought the drugs into the country? So somewhere like Georgia, where cannabis is legal, a drug mule could say they were given it outside the airport. Therefore they're not guilty of smuggling? I don't know but that would make sense to me.

Plus, of course, if they give you the slip you've lost the lot. At least the drug mule is in custody...and they may give names for a deal. Who knows?

RedRoss86 · 18/05/2025 13:08

I think selling your passport info for 550 quid is one thing (not condoning it... It was stupid)
But the 12kg of drugs, that's a different ballgame.
No sympathy.

Redflamingos · 18/05/2025 13:09

Trillie · 18/05/2025 13:07

Real players don’t walk around with drugs on them, that’s what mules are for.

Then don’t become a mule. Hopefully these punishments serve as a reminder. We really need to teach our children better.

JHound · 18/05/2025 13:10

It’s interesting which young woman / girl’s receive sympathy for having been groomed into criminal activity and which don’t.

Why are you assuming she was groomed OP?

mydogisthebest · 18/05/2025 13:10

Happywishful · 18/05/2025 10:49

I feel very sorry for her and her family. Very young and naive.

What do you really know at 18? It takes a long time to grow up.

Such rubbish. My parents started working at 14. 18 is NOT a child

JHound · 18/05/2025 13:11

To answer your question no sympathy and no, the UK should not intervene.

MinnieCauldwell · 18/05/2025 13:11

I see posts on MN all the time about brains not being developed until 25 and still a child at 18. Perhaps 25 should be the age of majority then - no under 25s in pubs and clubs, no alcohol till 25 and No voting or driving.

Gloriia · 18/05/2025 13:12

LondonJax · 18/05/2025 13:08

I don't know why they don't follow them but I'm guessing it's, maybe, because you then can't prove they brought the drugs into the country? So somewhere like Georgia, where cannabis is legal, a drug mule could say they were given it outside the airport. Therefore they're not guilty of smuggling? I don't know but that would make sense to me.

Plus, of course, if they give you the slip you've lost the lot. At least the drug mule is in custody...and they may give names for a deal. Who knows?

Oh yes it would involve taking pics of the drugs at the airport as evidence then sending them on their way maybe popping a tracker in the case so they don't lose them. They really need to come up with a better system.

Comfortable8520 · 18/05/2025 13:12

Probably yes because she carried pot. In my view it's not such bad drug that people get addicted to. It's no worse than alcohol or cigarettes that you can buy legally, for sure.

JHound · 18/05/2025 13:12

PhilippaGeorgiou · 18/05/2025 08:14

She did not do something stupid. She did something illegal. Absolutely nobody can have got to the age of 18 without knowing that (a) drugs are illegal, (b) smuggling drugs is illegal, and (c) a whole lot of countries have laws and prisons that are a lot harsher than those in the UK. No sympathy.

I wonder if it was an 18 year old black male smuggling drugs into the UK if people would be sympathetic.

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I wonder if it was an 18 year old black male smuggling drugs into the UK if people would be sympathetic.

I think you know the answer to that….

Pedallleur · 18/05/2025 13:12

Not just young girls. There was the recent case of the prison Governor sent down for being involved in a relationship with a prisoner and got him early release. He is back behind bars and she got 12 years. Criminals, drugs, it's so exciting until you are in the dock.

Redflamingos · 18/05/2025 13:13

SinnerBoy · 18/05/2025 13:03

There's a girl of a similar age, who smuggled a load into Newcastle, she's just got a suspended sentence and a community order.

I'm mystified as to the destination, we have some Georgian friends and they told me marijuana growing and smuggling is rife, in Georgia. A lot gets smuggled into Russia and the cops and customs on both sides get paid off.

It's like smuggling spaghetti into Italy.

It’s really not. A quick google search will confirm that what she did is not only illegal but punishable. She will have known what she was doing and what the consequences would be if she got caught. She was obviously hoping she’d get away with it.

JHound · 18/05/2025 13:13

babystarsandmoon · 18/05/2025 08:18

I can’t find any sympathy for her. Her social media was full of posts bragging about a criminal lifestyle.

This is very useful additional context.

Hippywannabe · 18/05/2025 13:14

No sympathy here.
She posted her lifestyle on social media- this will come back to bite her.
Did I do stupid things when travelling- yes. Did I do illegal things when travelling- no.

Parents have to have conversations pointing out the consequences of their actions.

mydogisthebest · 18/05/2025 13:15

TalkToTheHand123 · 18/05/2025 09:11

Yes. It was only cannabis. Drugs should be legalised and none of this business would be happening.

"only cannabis". Well that makes it ok then. Drugs should not be legalised, even cannabis, and this idiot deserves everything she gets as do all drug smugglers/dealers etc

nomas · 18/05/2025 13:15

Gloriia · 18/05/2025 12:56

Exactly. 2 a penny 18yr olds getting arrested meanwhile the serious organised crime people are laughing their heads off.

A massive cartel leader was caught last year .

It’s not an either or situation.

They can’t let mules go just because they’re young blonde girls on the bottom rung of the ladder.

Pedallleur · 18/05/2025 13:15

Comfortable8520 · 18/05/2025 13:12

Probably yes because she carried pot. In my view it's not such bad drug that people get addicted to. It's no worse than alcohol or cigarettes that you can buy legally, for sure.

Until a drugged driver kills/injuresbyou or a member of your family. It's legal in some places but you don't get carte blanche to take it and drive/ operate machinery etc. let's not make light of it. It's a drug. Where it's legal then you can use it and be responsible as with alcohol but abuse it and the responsibility for your actions lie with you.

viques · 18/05/2025 13:16

anyolddinosaur · 18/05/2025 12:11

Very little sympathy - but yes, I think there should be an attempt to get her transferred to a British prison.

Why? Their laws, their punishment. Shall we ask the US government to send Abu Hamza Al Masai back to serve his sentence as well, after all the poor man is disabled so it must be extra hard for him being in a maximum security prison in the US away from his family.

Sunsetsandcocktails · 18/05/2025 13:17

No

XxSideshowAuntSallyx · 18/05/2025 13:18

It's interesting, there are two threads (this one and one about a 34 year old setting his dating range from 21) going on here that keep bringing up a woman's age and saying they're not mature enough.

When are women mature enough to take responsibility for themselves? Why are we infantalising grown women?

At 18 I knew right from wrong, I knew not to smuggle drugs or accept suitcases from strange men. I knew to pack my own suitcase. I knew unprotected sex could result in a pregnant. At 19 I had moved out and lived on my own. Was I not an adult then?

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 18/05/2025 13:19

XxSideshowAuntSallyx · 18/05/2025 13:05

Not sure why my previous comment has been hidden and needs checking when it was only about the Peru 2 (maybe the link to the news article🤷‍♀️).

Does anyone remember them? One sold her story and wrote a book after she got out, appears on tv and the papers talking about it. The other has lived a quiet life.

I know which one this one is likely to follow. A stint on Celebrity big brother or Love Island maybe?!

I mentioned them earlier in the thread. They'll definitely be a sad face newspaper interview with this one, maybe followed by the book deal.

Just waiting for the family to start a GFM.