Anyone else gutted about reform ? Feels like it’s going to turn very trump here

[ShrunkInTheWashAgain]

In this country soon

Asset rich/cash poor, but many working today have no hope of asset rich just cash poor. He wants to keep all of his house, for his children perhaps, but what none of his children can give him some fuel money or he saved nothing towards his own old age?

This is the personal clinging to everything that creates high housing costs and inequality for younger generations.

No generation after that man will get the standard of living he got, they were the very lucky generation, not their fault they did what was expected and asked of them at the time, but to not acknowledge that, to be prepared to vote for anyone as long as they get their WFA back, to me is greedy and mean towards those coming up behind them.

Release equity from your rich asset if you didn’t save for a pension.

An economy based on children inheriting a house is an economy built on sand.

And I’ve also seen a massive rise in far right online content. My internet habits haven’t changed so I’m sure it’s deliberate. Only this morning an AI video of Farage in a speedboat sinking channel dinghies and the passengers drowning popped up in my newsfeed

Agree completely. People moan about disrespecting the elderly but they show v little concern for anyone else, and have pulled up the drawbridge behind them

And he will be out on Thursday, in a pub, surrounded by his security, waving a pint around with a Union Jack tie thinking he’s the reincarnation of Churchill.

People are tired of uncontrolled immigration - this is what happens when other parties refuse to do anything about it. Blokes on boats with iPhones, coming from places where there is no war/famine. Men claiming to be teenagers so they can’t be sent back and are sent to a British school with full beards and eye wrinkles 😂 my OH is a teacher in an inner city secondary. Criminals let in to commit crime here. We have enough of our own criminals, we don’t need more!

No. It's brilliant.

Ok fair enough let’s see how brilliant these Reform led councils are.

Very well said. I would add to the oneupmanship that people will also cut off their noses to spite their faces.

They’re ignoring their crumbling economic position but will be gleeful if they can “send them back” or stick the boot into somewone else, because of course that will lead to no more social issues at all and the “extra money” will be redistributed fairly among society (sarcasm)

Hopefully it's just a protest vote and people will be more reflective at the next general election. In some ways I agree with shaking the tree and see what falls out. The main parties have been much of a muchness for years. Can anyone tell Labour policies from Conservative ones? Perhaps they will all get the wake up call they need and present some good solid policies that address people's concerns about the country.

Can you explain to me how it's 'brilliant'? These people have no experience, no/low education, are probably racist and have no idea about how local government actually works.

Can you explain how these are positives and what do you think will happen?

Reform are a symptom but not the cause. Labour need to pivot sharpish.
If they had stepped aside and worked together with others, as the left parties did in France to stop Le Pen, then Reform wouldn’t have won in my area.

I have always voted, even in “minor” elections, but am at a loss now as to who represents me.

If I could leave the country then I would!

How do you know they are all uneducated or inexperienced? You sound very bigoted. People who didn't go to posh school or who haven't worked in government before are all allowed to participate in local affairs you know. These people have been democratically voted in because the electorate are fed up with open borders among many things. Maybe try to have some insight into why people might have a different view from you rather than throwing around lazy accusations of 'racism'.

It's the continual drip feed of nastiness that you can't escape, and you can't help but be influenced by it in some way. Our brains are wired to accept things we hear repeated and repeated. A not so subtle form of brainwashing. Keep rebuffing it or they win. Very often when they tell you about some horrific thing that 'proves' their conspiracies, if you actually look it up they are pretty wide of the truth, but many people just accept it as written. I have often added a post with the actual facts with links. But then you see exactly the same rubbish posted by someone else somewhere else...

Nope, I'm chuffed they got in 😁

This. Just like the constant drip drip drip of Covid propaganda. “People will die. People will die. Virus. Variant. Vaccine. Hands face space. Don’t kill granny. People are dying. Superheroes wear masks, do you?”

The drop feed of nastiness indeed-don’t forget that Reform and their ilk will post it anonymously to stir up hatred. Don’t be manipulated by them.

They haven't but there is a huge unrest in parts of the country just now.

Mass immigration with no homes available for people already living in those areas has caused massive problems and no real action about how to deal with it plus the removal of pensioner cold weather payment and I think some of this is a protest vote.

I think it's an indication of disappointment and dissatisfaction with the main parties. We have 14 years of Tory government which started with austerity which was grim followed by some relatively good times, followed by covid and then a mess. We had the promise of a Labour party who would change things, and stick to their promises and very quickly they have done things that they said they wouldn't and gone back on promises they made. I don't blame people voting for Reform (we did not have elections where I live) I think saying Reform are racist and extreme right wing is quite insulting. Everyone is entitled to their vote and deriding such a large percentage of the population is not helpful, I think just as in Brexit there are many who do not admit to voting for Reform due to such negative comments and that isn't right.

I thought Labour would lead to increase or a win for Reform so not a surprise rn

I think the Trump stuff has happened to recently. The cult of Reform took off in 2015 and massively so since last July (when Labour got in).

Anyone on local Facebook groups could see what was happening.

This is most definitely happening. There is money being pushed into this and it’s terrifying.

I am happy that Reform have made gains across the country.

Why? What is it you hope they will do?

Fair question. It’s because we have a different issue to Canada and Aus. The former wants to retaliate on tariffs, we haven’t, Labour want a deal and Aus has resolved the trafficking issue already.

And other Labour policies probably.

And I thought it was just the US that was full of fuckwits.