Thread 22 Starmer - Running up to local elections

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Here we go. Previous thread.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5305431-thread-21-starmer-casting-nasturtiums?page=40&reply=143731831

Sympathies @PickAChew

Not good but at least they'll have 4 years to show how incompetent they are.

ETA there will be by elections a plenty during that time.

derxa are you aware that there were attempts to deport the Afghan boy from the Flintoff programme and that only Flintoff's intervention helped avoid this?

Very few asylum seekers are lucky enough to meet with the astonishing kindness and empathy , but also social influence , of Freddie Flintoff.

Larry the Cat

https://bsky.app/profile/number10cat.bsky.social/post/3lo6rn3y4h22t

Well, it’s certainly not nice to look at your county and realise what a huge proportion of thick, racist twats there are living in it . Or at least voting in it.

You are not supposed to be nasty to them, apparently. Poor little dabs are very fragile.

I am bloody dreading Senedd elections next year.

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This isn’t helpful. I’m not a Reform UKIP voter but I do remember a family where the father was a UKIP councillor. I’ll never forget their kindness when we were going through a tough time. Meanwhile my socialist ‘friend’ was spreading rumours about me.

I actually feel a bit sick at the fact Lancashire has gone resoundingly Reform. And uncharacteristically sad for the Conservative candidate in my area who was closest in votes (by hundreds) to the faceless Reform bot who hid his address so we can’t see that he most likely doesn’t live anywhere near us. Jesus, what a sad, sad day for Lancashire. Four years is a long time for them to fuck up the County.

Quite :(

Sam Coates on Sky called it an element of the Brexit effect.

"Areas where there are lower number of graduates, much higher Reform UK vote"

A friend of mine is a Reform supporter. They are a kind person and would not hesitate to help me, but they are racist. It pains me to say that, but it is true.☹️

And I remember a Conservative MP who helped my family enormously. What’s your point? There’s always going to be decent outliers who you think would be better as Indeoendents.
The Labour and Conservative candidates live here, work here, make a real difference to the local area. I’ve already said upthread that it was a toss up between them and what decided me was the Conservative made some stupid lies up on his campaign leaflet about Labour governing the country. I could have voted for either and been perfectly happy with whoever won. They both work their arses off whether there’s an upcoming election or not.
Reform have been spamming FB with racist shite, had a stand in the middle of a major Easter event then whined about being moved on. They don’t represent me, they don’t care about Lancashire and right now I’m ashamed to be Lancastrian.

Used to live, and work in, Derbyshire- now a Reform led council. Sadly, much of my family still do. Not surprised at some of the area results, weirdly some are the lowest immigration rates in the country yet I know some people there are highly against immigration - so maybe that's led by fear of the unknown if I want to be kind. I am surprised at some areas though.
Can't imagine the very large county council being led by Reform well - hopefully that will put voters off at the GE!
I'm very glad I didn't choose to return a couple of years ago - I'd hate to know I lived in a Reform council area - sorry to those who do, unless of course that works for you.

Yes, I know someone like that who is my Mum's age, they are also a Trump supporter!

This will cheer up Farage

UK politics is now dynamically aligned with that of the EU.

But what does ‘racist’ mean?

<links arms in solidarity with @PickAChew >

It truly sucks.

Another Lancashire resident feeling utterly sick at the prospect of the next four years, two of my DC in Staffordshire as well.

I think I recall after the General Election the advice for those in constituencies with Reform MP’s was to bombard them with case work as they wouldn’t be interested or able to cope with it. I think those of us in Reform council areas could do similar, and show how unfit they are for public office.

Me too. How are people being taken in by them when they proudly avoid voting for Tories? Bonus points for the use of ‘poor dabs’ 😄

@PickAChewSame.

And do you think that was a reflection of their respective party’s views? Or their competence to govern?

But what does ‘racist’ mean?

Are you serious @derxa?

Edited to remove swearing and to try and remain vaguely respectful

I suspect she’s implying that said person is only called racist because she expressed concern about ‘undocumented young men’. Lots of Reform voters (I know you aren’t one - yet anyway - derxa) say that they get called racist for having ‘concerns’ about such things.

Reform UK now has control of seven councils:

Staffordshire
Nottinghamshire
Durham
Lancashire
Lincolnshire
Kent
Derbyshire

That says more about the kind of person you are @Saucery than anyone who voted Reform. Last year it was anyone who voted Conservatives who were insulted, now that Reform are gaining power it's anyone who votes for them who you now think are thick, racist twats.

People in this country have had enough of Labour and Conservatives. Love or hate Nigel Farage he has suddenly made politics a lot more interesting. This is a big wake up call for the Tories and Labour. They need to start listening.