Is there any celeb you feel sorry for?

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Watching one of mg favourite films again, (Easy A) and it’s got Amanda Bynes in it.

I still feel so sorry for her. She was so talented and I loved her movies and it’s sad to see how she is now. I genuinely hope she gets all the help she needs

Danny Baker posted an offensive meme on Instagram. He lost his job, rightly, and was absolutely vilified. No newspaper printed or supported that.
I am very sorry that Meghan's had severe MH problems, but there could be many and various reasons for that.

I agree with this, it must be terrible to feel trapped.

I also feel sorry for Marilyn Monroe. She was badly exploited. She dearly wanted a baby, but miscarried and spiralled into worse MH. No-one seemed to be able to help her.

Because I believe the choice to defend or make excuses for domestic abusers is wrong.

And gender is directly relevant here as there’s no such sympathy for men who beat up women on this forum.

Hugh Hefner bought the grave next to hers. Even in death she couldn't escape arsehole men.

Oh my god. I don't know why, but that's really disgusted me. That man was completely vile and acted with impunity.

Have you read Monroe's sister's book? It's a very interesting read as it presents another telling of the Monroe story.

The interesting thing about Monroe's story is that it was mythologised early on by both Monroe & the studio. Since then, her life is seen through so many lenses; that of victim, that she was used up and destroyed by Hollywood, and more recently that she was a clever and savvy businesswoman who worked out that she could sell sex to get what she wanted, that she had renegotiated a better and more powerful contract by the time she died, that she was one of the first to have her own production company (Lucille Ball had her own studio in the 50s). There are so many versions (and angles) of Monroe that the truth is harder to find and somewhere in there. Sometimes, it feels like it depends on who is telling the story and to what generation they are selling it to. Fame is such a weird thing, even how we consume it and our fascination with it.

One thing is for sure, Monroe was definitely another victim of addiction & substance abuse: It's not surprising that she was experiencing a catalogue of mental health problems (depression, anxiety, low self-esteem, chronic insomnia) and her life was unravelling, as she was addicted to amphetamines, barbiturates washed down daily with copious amounts of alcohol. These women probably weren't making their best decisions.

I adore Marilyn, devoured books on her in my younger days and just feel a real love and affection for her. There is a quote from her that on the surface sounds vulgar but I felt nothing but compassion for her. It was when she finally made it and no longer had to appease the powers that be (ie lecherous, predatory studio power men - “I have scked my last cck). She was flawed sure but a beautiful human.

Asterix’s have altered quote

I wonder why she chose to marry a multi-millionaire?

As Mrs Merton once said to Debbie McGee, What attracted you to the multi millionaire Donald Trump?

Michael Barrymore. I used to love all his stuff.

Didn’t Hefner acquire her naked shots of Marilyn (taken before fame) and launch playboy with them? Marilyn got not say in it, gave no permission and received no money. Lots of sympathy for her and others like her that were manipulated and used to make money for other people.

Oh god, I used to think the same thing and it has never occurred to me before that they weren't off the cuff. Even though it's obvious now 🤦.

One thing I’m sure about is Melania loathes her husband. She couldn’t look any more repulsed by him if she tried 😁 I think she stays because she adores Baron and wants to make sure he is ok.

So did I but watching it back through adult eyes his act seems to have a mean tinge to it.

That coupled with his actions and lack of sympathy or consideration towards the Lubbock family makes it difficult for me to induce sympathy for him.

That's a horrible quote.

Hollywood is such a cesspit. I remember being disturbed for days when reading about Natalie Wood, who had been a child star (another pushy, stagestruck mother, like Judy Garland) who was sexualised and sleeping with her director, Nicholas Ray, aged 44, at age 16. Why would you want to put your child in that environment? These men were basically paedophiles!

Vile.

Mary Berry. seeing her talk about her son dying at 19, so sad.
Toby Jones, his daughter dying.

No one is making excuses or defending the actions but equally we can sympathise with someone who made a mistake and it cost them their life. If she was regularly beating him and abusing him then my sympathies would be different but this example I do sympathise with her

🤣🤣 Omg, I bet Paul Daniels had never been compared to Donald Trump in his entire life.

Sorry, that's made me laugh

Even worse some other sick arsehole bought a grave on top of her and asked to be buried face down so it’s like he’s having sex with her 😡🤮

Crikey, that’s all news to me 😱 I assumed he was one of the nice guys (but troubled). Just goes to show you really don’t know about a celebrity the way you think you do.

I do wonder if they're doing what he would have wanted, the family have more or less put their lives on hold since 2013. He participated in a dangerous sport, Formula 1, he must have accepted the risks that brought and he chose a potentially dangerous hobby, ski-ing.

Oh my god, @Charlize43 - shocking.
I was very distressed when I read about Brooke Shields.
Trigger warning
Brooke was a model and actress from an early age, and was in several controversial films, including Louis Malle's Pretty Baby, which featured her naked at the age of 11.
She also posed for Playboy at this age, the details of which are sickening.
Why people haven't been charged over this, I don't know.

😱
How is that even allowed?!

We can put it down to the fact we were kids and naive 😉 I do feel a pleb now though 😆