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The way my brain works and housework: dilemma with husband

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Eegokeennow · 15/03/2025 09:59

Summary: I can't manage home management tasks unless I'm mentally ready, but my husband is always ready to sort the home out. It really stresses me out.

Bear with me. I don't even know how to put this into words but it has been causing me stress and I can't find a way to express this to my husband even though we can talk about anything normally.

I was an only child and my mum didn't work. I'm assuming that she got most of her housework done when I was at school but I do remember her doing jobs and giving me chores to help out on Saturday. She kept a tidy enough house but it wasn't anything like a show home and I know she didn't really value housework much, so long as things were decent enough, which they were. My dad was the breadwinner, and a very typical dad from my generation; didn't do any housework! For context, I think both my parents are neurodiverse (I don't know why this is relevant but I feel it is).

I was always very messy, scatty, disorganised, forgetful and if I'm honest, dirty. When I left home to go to uni, my room was an absolute tip. I never did the dishes or cleaned after cooking and looking back, I was disgusting. My mental health was very poor too, and there was a chicken-egg situation with regard to my environment. I was drinking excessively and was actually a mess, living in squalor, not going to lectures and eventually got kicked out of uni. My parents got me sorted out, I had counselling, went on anti depressants and eventually retrained and had a fresh start. This time, I lived like a normal person, caring for my surroundings to higher degree and keeping on top of things.

I met my husband, who is incredibly clear minded and level headed, focused and full of productive energy. I was still messy and housework took me a very long time, which he tolerated and at the time was much tidier than me.

After we had kids, I suddenly felt a really strong urge to keep the place clean and tidy. In the past, if the living room was messy at the end of the day, I'd just leave it and go to bed. Now, I always make sure that before I go to bed, the dishes are done, the surfaces are wiped, dishwasher put on, floor swept, that the living room is tidy, throws and cushions neatly arranged and floor is swept. This might seem like the most basic thing to most of you but it is something I've trained myself to do.

I have an order of priorities; living room and kitchen and hallway area need to be kept tidy, with floors swept and surfaces clean and this needs to happen before I tackle anything else. Unfortunately, I'm rarely able to tackle anything else because this seems to take up so much of my efforts. It seems to hurt my brain to do anything beyond this, unless this is done first.

We have small kids and both work full time. My husband more than does his share but the way he does it makes me really stressed.

My husband (rightfully) wants to keep on top of the laundry, sort out clutter (there is a lot but it's never on show) And take care of other aspects of running a home. He just does it so quickly and in such a an overwhelming day. When I lie in at the weekend, I get up and the living room isn't tidy, there will be crumbs over the surfaces, the cushions and throws all over the place but about 2 loads of washing will have been done with a pile of dirty clothes dumped in front of the washing machine ready to be put in. This completely freaks me out but I don't know how to say it. I just freeze up. (I'm not scared of my husband btw). I will the have to sort out the wet clothes or maybe there will be clothes hanging drying everywhere and I need to then start dealing with those. I wouldn't mind at all if the the living room and kitchen were done first.

My husband said we needed to sort a lot of our old stuff and it freaked me out because my brain freezes up when I have to sort. I have to prepare my mind to sort things out and can't just spring from not sorting to sorting (if that makes sense). He will then go around filling bags for charity shops/the dump and I just freeze. I will see him putting stuff I want to keep but I freeze up and can't say it in case I am then invited to participate in the sorting out process. It's not laziness, it just breaks my brain and I can't cope with the decisions! This means bags of stuff piled up in our hallway ready to be taken away, and all I can think is 'the kitchen and living room are a mess'.

I cannot proceed with anything until that's done but I worry that if I say to my husband, can you.make sure the kitchen and living room are tidy before embarking on your other jobs, he might tell me where to go (when he is tackling stuff i wont even think about). My issue is that when it comes to housework and running a home, my brain totally scrambles and I just can't discuss it.

When my husband is ever away, less stuff gets done but the home is always tidier on the surface and I feel calmer. I get through the washing at a much slower pace, often shoving it down in the basket until I feel mentally ready to deal with it. I have to build myself up to take the rubbish out, but it's all neatly squashed down in the bins.

I work in a professional role that im successful in, and have my own system for keeping on top of that. My desk, however, is a disaster and gets out of control very easily. I have a tray that I just stick everything in and every so often I sort it when I can face it.

Aside from this, I am a very happy person, happy marriage, great kids, lots of friends, fulfilling job etc but this situation really, really bothers me and I need someone to help me unpick this so I can talk to my husband about it without saying words that sound like a broken egg!

Every time he wants to sort stuff out or do some kind of house admin I freeze up and I think he just thinks I'm lazy. People say 'give everything a home and make sure you put it there straightaway'. This saying freaks me out! For context, my mother in law keeps a show home and makes cleaning and keeping a home look so easily. Sometimes I ask myself 'what would MIL do in this situation' and the answer will be simple stuff like 'she would put these clothes in each child's respective drawer'.

Sorry this is so long, but it's in the hope that if one person identifies with this, then I will feel less alone and can maybe figure out how to move forward. Oh, we have a cleaner come once a month (my husband organised this) and have a robot vacuum cleaner (which I love!).

Husband also takes care of all the car stuff and life admin because this all scrambles my brain too :-(
Edited to add That growing up, we had a junk room which was a spare room that everything got flung into. I don't have one of those!

OP posts:
Rowen32 · 15/03/2025 10:30

I'm a bit like this OP. I like rooms to a certain level of tidy, it helps me feel calm and function better, I like certain things done before I move to the next one. You just have different ways of doing things. If he's insistent on doing laundry say ask him to do it in a way that doesn't impact you so you can get on with your cleaning and not be left with what sounds like laundry mess he's put everywhere.
It's common for lots of people to feel calmer if they're in a tidier space, can you show him this thread?
The driving I'm not sure about

Eegokeennow · 15/03/2025 10:32

Happynow · 15/03/2025 10:28

ADHD was my first thought too. It's quite a broad spectrum as others have said. Please don't beat yourself up about it, it's not something you have a lot of choice over, the brain's wired differently. Sounds like you've worked around it really successfully (your comments about work and having a system were telling) but it must be exhausting.

I would say that I'm very inefficient. I actually excelled in school but it would take me so much longer to do the work. For example, if I had a 4,000 word limit, I would start by writing up 10,000 words of researching and then painstakingly simmer it down until not a word of my word count was wasted; it was dense with meat. It just took me so, so long. Same with housework. I can do it but it takes me so much longer than anyone else and I over think everything. Sometimes I have to stand in a room and mentally tidy it first so I don't have to think while I'm doing it!

I'm very good at my job as it uses my good skills, of which I do think I have many and what keep my husband sticking around 😄

OP posts:
Nothatgingerpirate · 15/03/2025 10:33

Massively long excuse.
From a ND person.
When necessary, adults develop a coping strategy.
Full stop.

Eegokeennow · 15/03/2025 10:37

Nothatgingerpirate · 15/03/2025 10:33

Massively long excuse.
From a ND person.
When necessary, adults develop a coping strategy.
Full stop.

Sorry, I have small children, work full time in a demanding role (very well), take the best care of my home that I can, am a great mum and also have lots of highly successful relationships, strong friendships and have very good mental health in terms of happiness. I think I have lots and lots of very effective strategies and have overcome huge hurdles in my life.

This is one area that I struggle with and I'm assuming your comment was deliberately antagonistic because you're bored, and not give it any more thought beyond this reply.

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banivani · 15/03/2025 10:38

I agree with ADHD based on numerous family members. Executive dysfunction! I’m probably on the spectrum but not diagnosed - I’ve found my family being diagnosed and learning more about it very helpful because I’ve learnt a lot and use some ideas to manage my own issues. But it’s tricky, it’s hard to explain to others.

stayathomer · 15/03/2025 10:38

But op you’re keeping the place clean, it’s just that his priorities are different- he seems to think clutter or stuff is not necessary, whereas you probably had different plans for it. Dh would think nothing of throwing out eg certificates of the kids or getting rid of books or toys that he automatically assumed aren’t used but might be. Could it be this?

Pensionableperil · 15/03/2025 10:39

Nothatgingerpirate · 15/03/2025 10:33

Massively long excuse.
From a ND person.
When necessary, adults develop a coping strategy.
Full stop.

I’ve reported your awful and ridiculous comment.

Eegokeennow · 15/03/2025 10:40

Pensionableperil · 15/03/2025 10:39

I’ve reported your awful and ridiculous comment.

Oh please let it hang here for everyone to see.

OP posts:
AlteredStater · 15/03/2025 10:44

Take a deep breath OP. You really need to have a calm conversation with your DH about this, explain everything you've told us. It might take more than one conversation! It's OK to be different and tackle cleaning in the ways you and your DH do, but you should be honest with him about how you feel, and between the two of you, work out a better system. Since your DH isn't work-shy that's a big plus!

Eegokeennow · 15/03/2025 10:45

AlteredStater · 15/03/2025 10:44

Take a deep breath OP. You really need to have a calm conversation with your DH about this, explain everything you've told us. It might take more than one conversation! It's OK to be different and tackle cleaning in the ways you and your DH do, but you should be honest with him about how you feel, and between the two of you, work out a better system. Since your DH isn't work-shy that's a big plus!

Honestly he is amazing. I'm so lucky to have him. I did ask him if he thought I was neurodiverse and he said 'well, the way you fill the dishwasher isn't normal!' 😀 I think he knows I'm a bit...different.

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CautiousLurker01 · 15/03/2025 10:45

Only read first few lines. I’d suggest you have ADHD. I do too, as do most of my family (combines with ASD). I’d recommend getting an assessment as medication can really help with focus, avoiding procrastination etc. I am an all or nothing person with chores - house is either spotless or in chaos depending on where my head is at. My nearly 20yo DD is the same.

I’d forgive yourself and look at ADHD support groups/websites as there are also some really good threads on strategies to help manage housework/work tasks etc.

ZoggyStirdust · 15/03/2025 11:34

I’m the husband in this scenario. It can be frustrating when you see a mess and you know one of 2 things will happen.

either you mention the mess to your partner and they say they’re not mentally ready to deal with it so it stays messy

or you do it and they think you’re being all passive aggressive and calling them lazy when you’re not.

Eegokeennow · 15/03/2025 11:39

ZoggyStirdust · 15/03/2025 11:34

I’m the husband in this scenario. It can be frustrating when you see a mess and you know one of 2 things will happen.

either you mention the mess to your partner and they say they’re not mentally ready to deal with it so it stays messy

or you do it and they think you’re being all passive aggressive and calling them lazy when you’re not.

I'm always tidying the main living spaces while he gets on with other jobs so it's not a mess thing (although it takes me ages), but that I can't get on with the other things until the tidying is done. Your situation does sound tough though.

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Nothatgingerpirate · 15/03/2025 11:48

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SBHon · 15/03/2025 11:48

Eegokeennow · 15/03/2025 11:39

I'm always tidying the main living spaces while he gets on with other jobs so it's not a mess thing (although it takes me ages), but that I can't get on with the other things until the tidying is done. Your situation does sound tough though.

I wouldn’t ask him to change the order in which he tackles chores. In fact I think you’d be out of order to do so: he does housework his way and you do housework your way, as long as you’re each pulling equal weight then you don’t get to dictate what order he does things in.

Is it definitely equal? Or is he ending up doing more?

Eegokeennow · 15/03/2025 12:23

SBHon · 15/03/2025 11:48

I wouldn’t ask him to change the order in which he tackles chores. In fact I think you’d be out of order to do so: he does housework his way and you do housework your way, as long as you’re each pulling equal weight then you don’t get to dictate what order he does things in.

Is it definitely equal? Or is he ending up doing more?

Yes I agree, it would be wrong to talk to him about it. I just didn't know. He does more housework but he also does more social activities and is away on business trips more than me. I made him his favourite lunch and told him how grateful I was for some recent jobs he did and he was very gracious and said 'yeah but you sort the kids out etc etc' so he didn't seem to be annoyed or feel like things weren't balanced. We have a happy marriage and he would tell me.

OP posts:
Eegokeennow · 15/03/2025 12:24

But obviously I do not want to take advantage or to feel resentful.

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NeverDropYourMooncup · 15/03/2025 12:34

It sounds absolutely reasonable to me to make sure the day to day functioning stuff is done before anything more in depth is considered. It's the difference between having stuff everywhere being sorted because there's nowhere for it to go and being able to sort a small amount and move it easily because you're not tripping over the rest of the stuff - like being able to cook because the surfaces are clear and the pans are clean, rather than trying to work around tins, jars, dirty pots and the sink full of things from the morning.

I always say to DP that yes, I'll help with something but it's more important to get x done first. Doesn't stop me ranting and raving quietly in my head about the bloody clothes airer in the bloody way when I just want to sort the kitchen floor, but it does mean he'll take everything off it and go and sort them whilst I'm dealing with something else in peace.

Arseynal · 15/03/2025 12:46

I’m very similar.

what has helped —

Children getting older and therefore have less stuff lying around (not helpful right now)
Declutterring - I used the Marie Kondo method. I had help - dh and my sister and a sensible friend. I don’t stay on top of it as well as I should but it’s better than nothing. It always gets worse when we have financial strain. Too much stuff and you will never get on top of it. It’s a huge job and lots of effort but totally worth it.
Writing down a weekly jobs list - I work a rolling rota with different days off every week so I can’t do a “Monday night clean the bathroom” type list but I can do it according to my schedule.
Being strict with myself. I don’t sit down after dinner until the kitchen is sorted etc. I’m still shit at it - yesterday I was supposed to do the supermarket shopping in the afternoon but I delayed it and got home late then rushed to make dinner and my whole evening was delayed but I did do the shopping and everything got done .
Im still messy and I have to accept it but I treat it the same way as I’m short sighted. I have to wear glasses and I have to go to my opticians appointments etc and it’s stupid to walk around without my glasses and like a 20:20 vision person because I’ll walk into lampposts and trip over dogs. I gave to make an effort to do things in the house that other people can just do without thinking. I can’t do them as easily as they do so I have aids in place.

In conclusion
Declutter
jobs lists (physical ones you can tick off)
not letting stuff like laundry build up
make sure your kitchen is clean and tidy every night after dinner before you do anything else. (I know that goes out of the window when you have clubs and stuff in the evenings but make a schedule that suits you.
Don’t resent the effort - there will be things that you are great at that other people really struggle with. That’s just how it is.

CautiousLurker01 · 15/03/2025 12:48

Eegokeennow · 15/03/2025 12:24

But obviously I do not want to take advantage or to feel resentful.

My DH loves me for the whole person - and I’d suspect given you say you have a happy marriage that your DH does too. Even the disorganised, messy you. It sounds as though this is a you thing - you are feeling self conscious, guilty, as though you are somehow failing when no one else is really bothered. It may also be that you’d personally function if you felt your home was a little less messy/if you felt less overwhelmed by the housework backlog? So perhaps having one concerted blitz and/or getting a cleaner in to do a deep clean so you can start a fresh might help?

I also find that it’s a priorities thing. If I have something I really need to focus on (an post grad essay/assignment/the kid’s UCAS application/forms for school etc) I also cannot do it if the area around me is in chaos, so when the house is tidy/clean it tends to be a sign that I have lots going on, I really need to focus, and am feeling rather stressed. At uni I would clean the house, my bedroom, do my laundry and ironing BEFORE I could face the essays. Illogical as the priority was my essay!! But I couldn’t cope with the mess then… even though it was my neglect and procrastinating that had lead to it!

Had a tough few years recently and the mess/clutter/chaos built up until it became overwhelming. Not quite hoarder territory but we had rooms just full of junk that I had ‘tidied’ out of the main living spaces with a view to sorting ‘one day soon’. In the last 12m we have had a major declutter/clear out. Lots of skips, lots of giving away toys, clothes, books and other stuff that I was holding on to just in case it might be useful. Other than a very full loft storage space, we have absolutely no clutter now, were able to get a decorator in to freshen up certain areas and I agreed to having a cleaner for a few hours a week. It has changed my life. Should have done it decades ago. I can walk into any room and everything is tidy and dust free. My mind really does function better without the physical reminder that I have not coped, without the guilt/shame that I can’t manage it all on my own, or the stress over needing to do it.

I have no idea how long my tidy home will last, but the reset has been amazing for my mental health. And I’m never giving up my amazing cleaner!!

CautiousLurker01 · 15/03/2025 12:51

Think @Arseynal and I crossed posts, but are saying the same thing! Declutter being top of the list 😁

AgnesX · 15/03/2025 12:53

Can you explain to your husband how this makes you feel?

I understand how you feel about the order in which things should be done btw. It's not such a need for me but I do get it.

soupyspoon · 15/03/2025 12:57

My OH is like you OP and I am like your husband and his procrastination and dithering causes me a lot of stress and overwhelmed with all the stuff that just sits there, and lags, it feels like decay to me that we live with things that are not needed or in use or broken or whatever rather than just chucking out. It also means that the house doesnt improve and move forward and nothing ever gets done, year after year after year the same things are needed. We have never decorated our bedroom since moving in 15 years ago and I cannot bear the wall paper

Im prone to dither at times too as are most people and I remember a counsellor once saying to me when I was a very young adult, just see chores like you see doing your teeth, or the washing up, just do it, dont think about it, you just do it. That helps me and Ive tried to get him to do that

There almost no doubt that my OH is ND, he isnt interested in seeking a diagnosis and its not going to change anything, ADHD may be supported by medication but its not guaranteed to be successful and I dont think he would want medication anyway. He is hugely likely to be on the spectrum too.

Its really hard.

Gwenhwyfar · 15/03/2025 13:00

"I did ask him if he thought I was neurodiverse and he said 'well, the way you fill the dishwasher isn't normal!' 😀"

Lol. Most people think they live with someone who can't load the dishwasher! And men and women generally have different approaches too.

I'm not so sure you're ND, but then maybe it's because I don't want to think that I am too. I'm very slow to start things and I do find certain household jobs really difficult. I think tidying is extremely hard work because of the brain power it requires to think where things should go, how to make them 'look' tidy. I've never really 'got' that. Cleaning is much easier, just move the mop around...

I'm also really slow for other things e.g to go for a jog I will psych myself up for about 3 hours. I enjoy it once I'm out there...

Deebee90 · 15/03/2025 13:06

You need to meet in the middle. Neither of you are wrong. The only thing I’d change is the laundry. You shouldn’t be leaving it and pushing it down . You don’t want to smell. Having a tidy hallway and lounge and the rest of the house a mess would drive me absolutely nuts. You need to live in a house not a cluttered house. Growing up my mum was and still is a hoarder and forgot to maintain cleaning sometimes. It drives me mad, it doesn’t take long to do a basic hoover or clean the kitchen and bathroom etc. spilt things with your husband so you have a nice house not just 2 rooms.