Transgender Mice

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Hasn't anyone told the 'Leader of the free world' that's it's better to keep one's mouth shut and be thought a fool than open it and prove them correct...
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What?

It would be helpful if you could put some context to your post

It was so funny I had to keep fact checking to make sure it wasn't an AI deep fake thing.

@Kangarude

google Donald trump and transgender mice

another little gem

"He said Elon Musk was helping to find wasteful government spending, including “$8 million for making mice transgender.”"

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/politics/2025/03/06/trump-said-us-spent-8m-dollars-trans-mice-he-was-right/

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=www.yahoo.com/news/fact-checking-trump-anti-transgender-235916404.html&ved=2ahUKEwjm7v3LvPiLAxXcT0EAHfLJG6cQFnoECFYQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2suQ4FK6zCUeV3rjoccdPY

<a class="break-all" href="https://www.google.com/url?q=www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-politics-and-policy/fact-checking-trumps-anti-transgender-comments-address-congress-rcna194969" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna194969

Better info here

Oh I'm so sorry I don't know how to make links smaller,

Don't worry about it.
I don't seem to be able to make them work 😁

Wasn’t he just highlighting the waste of American tax payers money by Biden?

I think it's relevant to know which particular gaff the OP is talking about anyway the quote still applies to most everything that comes out of his mouth

It’s not a gaffe. They have been experimenting on mice, and other animals, to ‘prove’ they can change sex! Big pharma!

Erm, no they haven't.

https://www.wcpo.com/transgender-mice-fact-check-trump-2025

Oh stop it ! they change mice DNA for medical research its not changing sex at all, I mean whoever is speech writing for the president really needs to do their homework.

He confused the words ‘transgenic’ with ‘transgender’. Transgenic mice are used to research future cancer treatment (along with many indications) and have nothing to do with the gender or sex of the mice.

https://www.genome.gov/genetics-glossary/Transgenic

Many apologies! I forgot to add the link!
Thank you to the PP detectives who knew what I meant!

Nothing to do with transgenic mice.

The White Coat Waste Project, a non-profit campaigning to stop animal testing, investigates taxpayer-funded experiments on the effects of gender-affirming drugs in rodents. Representatives of the group testified at a February House Oversight Committee meeting.

This article in the Telegraph lists six experiments if the sort on rodents, mainly mice, referred to by WCWP.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/politics/2025/03/06/trump-said-us-spent-8m-dollars-trans-mice-he-was-right/

No worries OP. I refuse to google anything that clown says

Why? It works doesn't it, lots of people just believe it, spread it and becomes accepted. Why bother with the truth?

The speech writers have taken the examples given by the White Coat Waste Project at a House Oversight Committee meeting in February.

One example: a study at Emory University funded by NIH allegedly spent $735,000 evaluating the contribution of the gut microbiome towards gender affirming hormone therapy in mice.
A researcher at Emory said: “We study the effects of the hormone treatment used by transgender people on skeletal development. We want to know if these hormones impair skeletal growth and increase the probability of osteoporosis later in life.”

And CNN had to issue a correction to its fact check of Mr Trump’s speech, stating that “an earlier version of this item incorrectly characterised as false Trump’s claim”. In other words, Trump's claim was in fact true and CNN admitted it was incorrect to say it was false.

I'm no fan of Trump, but facts are important.

No they haven't, they are transgenic not transgender. I'm not a scientist and I don't know what it's all about but at least I know I don't know.

We study the effects of the hormone treatment used by transgender people on skeletal development. We want to know if these hormones impair skeletal growth and increase the probability of osteoporosis later in life.

One of the big issues with young people being given puberty blockers and cross sex hormones is the lack of knowledge of long term side effects. Studies like these are important. With more concrete information people may be less likely to seek treatment that can have harmful long term effects.

We already know the effects of puberty blockers from their use in children with precocious puberty.

And giving humans exogenous cross-sex hormones is an unutterably stupid thing to do. We really don't need to experiment on animals to prove that. It's unethical.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/03/yes-biden-spent-millions-on-transgender-animal-experiments/

FACT: Under the Biden Administration, the National Institutes of Health doled out millions of dollars in taxpayer-funded grants for institutions across the country to perform transgender experiments on mice.

• $455,000: “A Mouse Model to Test the Effects of Gender-affirming Hormone Therapy on HIV Vaccine-induced Immune Responses”
• $2,500,000: “Reproductive Consequences of Steroid Hormone Administration”“These mice manifest defects in ovarian architecture and have altered folliculogenesis.”
• $299,940: “Gender-Affirming Testosterone Therapy on Breast Cancer Risk and Treatment Outcomes”“We will compare the incidences and tumor specific survival in female mice (intact) and oophorectomized female mice receiving TT with their respective counterparts that do not receive TT.”
• $735,113: “Microbiome mediated effects of gender affirming hormone therapy in mice”
• $1,200,000: “Androgen effects on the reproductive neuroendocrine axis”“Aim 2 utilizes transgenic mice to test whether male-level androgens acting via AR specifically in kisspeptin neurons are necessary and/or sufficient for androgen inhibition of in vivo LH pulse parameters, including pulse frequency, and the estrogen-induced LH surge.”
• $3,100,000: “Gonadal hormones as mediators of sex and gender influences in asthma”“We will study the contributions of estrogens to HDM-induced asthma outcomes using male and female gonadectomized mice treated with estradiol…”

TOTAL: $8,290,053

OP looks like you could take a big old dose of your own medicine.

By the way, oophorectomized female mice, do you know what that is?