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How worried are you about the state of the world since trump became president ?

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JennyTals · 02/03/2025 07:46

Normally I try not to read the news too much, as it makes me worried and I can’t do much about it

but since trump has buddied up with putin, it’s starting to get me quite worried about what the hell is going no to happen
again I suppose there’s not much I can do about it either way
si don’t really know what I’m really other than are you really worried too
and if you’re not what do you tend to say to yourself about it all ?

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frozendaisy · 02/03/2025 09:23

It’s having an affect yes.
H said Friday (after Zelensky press conference) if need be I could get a green card for US.
I pulled a face
“I know but if it’s the best option I could get one””

Which has never been a consideration before.

WinterMorn · 02/03/2025 09:25

@frozendaisy how would you moving to the US improve your situation?

Urghhhhhhh · 02/03/2025 09:28

I'm also worried that increasing defence spending everywhere creates demand for us to use that capacity - just as in the 1930s. Don't get me wrong, we need to increase defence spending, we can no longer rely on riding on the US's coattails strategically, but the long 1930s increases in defence speeding had one outcome.

I feel we need some sort of expansion of the TA on a voluntary basis, immediately.

unlimiteddilutingjuice · 02/03/2025 09:30

No more worried than usual.

The US has always aggressively meddled in other countries and got itself involved in a lot of wars. Often dragging us in along with them.
Trump is actually less hawkish than previous presidents.

I feel a bit sad for American citizens who've had their social programs cut.
And a bit optimistic for people around the world who'll have less of America dicking about with their countries.

SallyWD · 02/03/2025 09:35

WinterMorn · 02/03/2025 09:25

@frozendaisy how would you moving to the US improve your situation?

That's what I wondered!!

WinterMorn · 02/03/2025 09:37

@SallyWD moving to the US was my dream for years, but I have completely shelved plans to even travel there after the last few weeks. I love that country so much and it’s terrible to see what’s going on.

DrAnnaTaylorRyan · 02/03/2025 09:37

Hamilton6382 · 02/03/2025 09:16

Starmer is quietly destroying the UK economy and along with it the long accepted social contract. The impact of Labour’s actions will impact everyone in the UK far more than anything Trump does. The fact your economic awareness appears to extend only to WFA and VAT is probably why you can’t see this for yourself.

Or just possibly, I disagree?

My view is that 14 years of Tories, plus Brexit and COVID and then Russian actions affecting Europe's energy supplies has pretty much destroyed the UK economy and social contract already, and Starmer has been in for about 9 months so it's very early days for Labour to have sorted the legacy out.

You can hardly think everything was going swimmingly until Starmer was elected.

Hamilton6382 · 02/03/2025 09:41

WinterMorn · 02/03/2025 09:22

Then you have a tenuous grasp on reality.

I would respectfully suggest that you are one of those whose position is moulded by what they read online. It is no surprise that the masses tend to adopt the rhetoric of the media as they have nothing else to base opinions on.

Speak to people who have genuine experience of the world and you will find a far broader range of opinions. Out of interest when were you last in Russia? I lived there for a while but assume you must have far more insightful experiences than that based on your comments. I’d be interested to know what they are.

MrsPernicious · 02/03/2025 10:01

@frozendaisy , I get it, if we are heading towards WW3 then geographically the US is a better place to be than Europe.

The question has to be who will benefit if WW3 breaks out?
Whose economy is weakening in comparison to others?
Who benefitted from the last WW?

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 02/03/2025 10:04

I would respectfully suggest that you are one of those whose position is moulded by what they read online. It is no surprise that the masses tend to adopt the rhetoric of the media as they have nothing else to base opinions on.

Such a patronising comment.

WinterMorn · 02/03/2025 10:05

Hamilton6382 · 02/03/2025 09:41

I would respectfully suggest that you are one of those whose position is moulded by what they read online. It is no surprise that the masses tend to adopt the rhetoric of the media as they have nothing else to base opinions on.

Speak to people who have genuine experience of the world and you will find a far broader range of opinions. Out of interest when were you last in Russia? I lived there for a while but assume you must have far more insightful experiences than that based on your comments. I’d be interested to know what they are.

This is total rubbish. It’s so odd that these types of replies always have the same mass media references with a good old ‘when I lived in Russia’ anecdote as well…..

Hazeby · 02/03/2025 10:08

WW3! Germany had invaded most of Europe and some of Africa in 3 years. Putin’s only managed less than 20% of Ukraine in the same time and is now at a stalemate. How exactly is he going to start a world war?

WinterMorn · 02/03/2025 10:09

@SerenityNowSerenityNow It’s that winning combo of arrogant, assumptive and….bollocks.

MrsPernicious · 02/03/2025 10:20

Hazeby · 02/03/2025 10:08

WW3! Germany had invaded most of Europe and some of Africa in 3 years. Putin’s only managed less than 20% of Ukraine in the same time and is now at a stalemate. How exactly is he going to start a world war?

Trump is the one with mentionitus about WW3.

You'd have to ask him, he probably has more control over these matters than Putin.

Hamilton6382 · 02/03/2025 10:24

WinterMorn · 02/03/2025 10:05

This is total rubbish. It’s so odd that these types of replies always have the same mass media references with a good old ‘when I lived in Russia’ anecdote as well…..

So I was correct then.

WinterMorn · 02/03/2025 10:25

Hamilton6382 · 02/03/2025 10:24

So I was correct then.

You can think what you like. Doesn’t make you correct!

User32459 · 02/03/2025 10:26

JacqFrost · 02/03/2025 09:04

I honestly can't remember a good US president. That's including Obama.

The only Democrat presidents since the 60s were Carter, Clinton and Obama. Carter was a good man but not a good president, Clinton a bit like Blair did some good things but the Clintons have wrecked that party.

You generally know what you're going to get from a Republican president (although Trump is his own level).

offmynut · 02/03/2025 10:32

Not one bit bothered or worried.
I really dont care just a bunch of posh rich people with power that as gone to their heads.

Meadowfinch · 02/03/2025 10:35

Wildflowers99 · 02/03/2025 08:25

On a scale of 1-10, I’m a 7/8 right now.

I’m ultimately worried about 2 things:

  1. A wider conflict.
  2. A culture of misinformation which results in the masses sleepwalking into living extremely substandard lives while being ruled by billionaire overlords.

This.

EmpressOfTheThread · 02/03/2025 10:38

DrAnnaTaylorRyan · 02/03/2025 09:37

Or just possibly, I disagree?

My view is that 14 years of Tories, plus Brexit and COVID and then Russian actions affecting Europe's energy supplies has pretty much destroyed the UK economy and social contract already, and Starmer has been in for about 9 months so it's very early days for Labour to have sorted the legacy out.

You can hardly think everything was going swimmingly until Starmer was elected.

I know. What a poisoned chalice. It's going to take a lot to turn around the impact of shockingly bad governance of the last 14 years, never mind the tenure of Liz Truss 😵

SouthernTip · 02/03/2025 10:40

Wildflowers99 · 02/03/2025 08:25

On a scale of 1-10, I’m a 7/8 right now.

I’m ultimately worried about 2 things:

  1. A wider conflict.
  2. A culture of misinformation which results in the masses sleepwalking into living extremely substandard lives while being ruled by billionaire overlords.

Absolutely by using influence and bots to spread disinformation.

Leaves democracy in tatters.

Meadowfinch · 02/03/2025 10:41

WinterMorn · 02/03/2025 09:37

@SallyWD moving to the US was my dream for years, but I have completely shelved plans to even travel there after the last few weeks. I love that country so much and it’s terrible to see what’s going on.

I've never dreamed of moving to the US, but we're bringing my niece & her family home. We made the decision after they dumped Roe Vs Wade, and am very glad we did. The US isn't safe.

SerenityNowSerenityNow · 02/03/2025 10:44

WinterMorn · 02/03/2025 10:09

@SerenityNowSerenityNow It’s that winning combo of arrogant, assumptive and….bollocks.

Edited

Indeed.
Someone I know regularly posts on fb about he's one of the only people he knows who's not taken in by the mass media and everyone else is so stupid.
While sharing outrageous conspiracy theory bollocks.

CarobyBlobs · 02/03/2025 11:02

In general I think the mass hysteria that met the announcement of him becoming president is seriously diluting the message when he does genuinely do or say something a bit nuts. Because if you’re not paying attention to US news and the majority of what you see is on social media, and you thought that the screaming and crying and people calling themselves refugees you saw on SM when his win was announced was a little bit of an overreaction then it leads you to think…are they overreacting again?

and then if you don’t care that much about the US then you probably just sort of don’t give it much more thought than that.

BetterDeadThanRed · 02/03/2025 11:15

Not worried at all and I'm from an ex-soviet-occupied country. Why y'all so worried about putin? He's useless. Couldn't take Ukraine in 3 years, his so called 'military power' is hopeless and laughable. His biggest strength is the sheer numbers of his own he doesn't give a fuck about and can throw in a grinder, but even these are running out. Furthermore, the war in Ukraine will end, and all the psycho rapists, torturers, depraved murderers will come back to mother russia - that will be fun for them. Once they won't be able to adjust to a civilian life and start slaughtering their own. Which is already happening and russia isn't telling the world.

I'm from a country who upped their military game very significantly in the past decade, we have further alliances with our neighbours in the same position and we're also in Nato. Let him come if he's stupid, he'll be crushed. Just like stalin was humiliated in Finland back in the day. With all do respect, we're not Ukraine, who were very military disadvantaged country with a host of internal problems pre-war.

Don't underestimate the sheer naked hatred we have for them. Just like Ukrainians do. Brits won't undertstand, you were never occupied, that's why I read all the 'I'd better see my kids grow up and live under putin than go to war' or the glib 'it can't be much worse than the current shitshow'. It CAN. Oh, how it can, you won't even believe. I'd rather see myself and my kids dead that live under those fuckers again. And most of my countrymen agree with me.

As for the orange imbecile, he might prove useful in a way. By trying to dismantle EU, he brought all the countries closer than they were ever before, kicked their asses into gear and maybe we, collectively, won't be so reliant on US 'help' anymore. America always been, is and will always be untrustworthy, with their mercenary 'help'. An aliance with them isn't worth the paper it's written on, they'll throw you to the dogs as soon as the money's right. See Ukraine and Budapest memorandum.

What will the unholy trinity of orangeman, vance and musk do to Americans? Nothing good. Nothing good at all. But they brought this on themselves voluntarily, so can now face the music.

As for nuclear end, I just don't believe it will ever happen. It's my personal opinion. However much I loathe the russkies and don't consider them human, they still want to live, after all.

I just wish that the west would open up their eyes once and for all with their 'oh poor ordinary russians, they're good harmless folk, it's just putin who is evil' bullshit. They're not. The biggest majority of them are cruel, dark, propaganda rinsed-brained barbarians with naked asses and vast imperial ambitions, harking back to the glorious mother russia days. Their whole history since the beginning of times is war, rape and pillage and they love their Tzar to be heavy handed with them, not kind. They even have a saying 'if he beats you, it means he loves you' (Бьёт значит любит). They activelly support putin, and there are many who think he should pound Ukraine more, not less.

We were occupied by them for almost a hundred years, first by their tzar, then by soviets and forced to live with them side by side. We know firsthand what 'harmless nice folk' they are.

Better dead than red always.