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What should I say to my friend?

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ConscientiousHouseSitter · 22/02/2025 06:07

I've name changed for this, as it's outing.

I've been house, dog and cat sitting for 2 weeks for a close friend whom I've known for many years. I travelled from the other side of the country to help her out, as I knew she wouldn't relax if she had strangers looking after her dog. I'm self-employed so was able to do it.

The animals are gorgeous, and it's a lovely house. I'm a massive animal lover, and take the responsibility very seriously. It's gone brilliantly well, apart from... My friend's mother! Who lives just down the road. She very kindly picked me up from the train station, and made it known she was around if I needed anything, so I was very grateful. But, I think because of all that, the boundaries were a bit blurred. She told me she needed to pop by at some point to sort stuff out for her daughter, my friend. That's fine. I understood that. But, I didn't fully comprehend what that would look like. Week 1 no problems. But, this last week, from Sunday onwards has ended up being very stressful because of her numerous uninvited visits. She turned up last Sunday morning, just before I walked the dog. The chain was still on the door, but I heard her trying to come in. Took me by surprise, as no heads up to say she was on her way. I left her to it. She was still here when the dog and I got back. Left for lunch then returned with no warning whatsoever and let herself in! I'm very introverted and private, so found this very stressful. I would, even if it was my own mum! When she finally left, she mentioned she would return another day to do more stuff. I should have then said, please could she message me first, and knock the door. But, I felt uncomfortable, and kind of lost my tongue. Next day, I was out walking the dog. I knew I'd locked the door, as I was so conscientious about protecting my friend's home that I checked and double checked it was locked. When we got back the door was unlocked! For a moment I thought I was going mad, and hadn't locked the door after all. So, I was feeling guilty and worried, but called out in case she was there - sure enough... She'd unlocked it with her key and let herself in! I was shocked, and didn't know what to say, so just said something like I was glad she was there, as I worried for a moment that I'd forgotten to lock the door. She misunderstood my meaning! Anyway, she stayed hours. When she finally left, she said she needed to come back one more time just to finish off. Said it'd be Thursday or Friday. So, you can imagine my shock when, the following day, I opened the door to head out with the dog, and there she was on the doorstep about to let herself in! I did find it a little funny, as well as stressful! She said she'd be an hour, and she was gone when we got back, phew!
So, all done I thought. Now I can relax. Buuut, Thursday morning - standing at the sink in my pyjamas, front door opens, and in she comes with her husband in tow 😩 Again, no warning, no knock, just lets herself (and her husband) in. Said they need to collect something. That time, I think my dismay was written on my face, so I felt certain that was that. Until yesterday! In she came again to do something, check something (not even sure at that point) I actually think I had a mini panic attack, as really thought she was finished. After putting the spuds I'd prepared in the oven, I made my excuses and went upstairs, saying I was sorting the beds or something. We said goodbye. I kind of hid. Until a calling upstairs to see if I knew I had something in the oven - arrrgh! Of course I knew. I'd only just put it in. I'm so risk averse. Especially re fire, especially in someone else's house, and with animals I'm responsible for. So, I was actually quite hurt by that. But, probably that's just over sensitivity due to the general stress of her numerous unannounced visits. Other stuff too, like uninvited advice about recycling etc when I had sorted it all the week before. Just generally, her presence, no matter how well meaning, has made the week far less enjoyable than it would otherwise have been. I think my friend hoped I could have a holiday in her absence.
Anyway, so, said friend returning today. She'll ask how it went. I've obviously sent regular updates and photos of the animals, so she knows that went brilliantly. But, not sure if I should gently sensitively say that I struggled with her mum's uninvited visits, without warning or knocking? I honestly don't think I'd do it again, if the same thing happened. So, she might like to know?
I'm guessing she and her mum have a no knock policy. They have eachother's house keys, and let themselves in to eachother's homes freely? Up to them of course. But, I'm not their family! Surely her mum should have realised it was totally different with a non family member here?! I'm still feeling stressed about it. It's made it such an unrelaxing week, which is a shame, as I've loved the animals and house.
I've got a very good relationship with my friend, and could word it in such a way that wouldn't offend. But, wonder if easier to keep quiet? What do you lovely Mumsnetters think?

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Girlintheframe · 22/02/2025 06:18

If this is going to an ongoing arrangement or something your going to do again in the future I might say something, very sensitively.
If however you animal/housesitting is just a one off I probably wouldn't, after all it won't achieve anything now. Really you should have said something to her mum at the time like 'would you mind messaging first'. It sounds like her mum was fine tbh and didn't do anything wrong. It's sounds more like you both have different personalities/expectations/boundaries. Tbh I don't think it's something that a simple conversation couldn't have sorted out.

ilovelamp82 · 22/02/2025 06:18

I would absolutely tell her. I'm sure she feels lucky to have a lovely friend that would look after her animals so well in her absence. She shouldn't lose out on that because of her over bearing mother. Don't minimise it, state the facts. That was completely put of order and would have made me massively uncomfortable. I would have had to message friend while she was away.

ConscientiousHouseSitter · 22/02/2025 06:25

@Girlintheframe yes I should definitely have said something to her mum right away. I think I was in shock, and didn't know what to say. After that, the pressident was kind of set, and it was difficult to amend. Also, I kept thinking it was the last visit! But, yes, I do fully acknowledge I should have explained it was making me uncomfortable.

@ilovelamp82 thank you. Glad you also see it was too much for me. I think said friend would definitely like me to dog/cat sit again, which I'm more than happy to do, if her blooming mother doesn't let herself in every 5 minutes! Yes, I need to say something. Albeit very carefully. I have no doubt her mum had good intentions. But, yes it was a nightmare!

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Whatatodo79 · 22/02/2025 06:26

I think you are a very sensitive person and I'm sorry you've found this so difficult but it's not really much in it is it? Her mum is possibly an interfering busybody or potentially she doesn't know you very well and was wanting to check you were either ok or looking after the house alright. You don't mention what she was actually doing in the home? Did you disappear each time and not know? I'd just say ti the friend that her mum poppped in quite a few times and took you by suprise doing so unannounced so sorry her dad saw you in her pyjamas and keave it at that. If she asks you to house sit again tell her that her mum needs to let you know when she is coming by.

username299 · 22/02/2025 06:33

Why didn't her mum look after her animals? I wouldn't say anything. Some people have very enmeshed relationships with their parents. Don't do it again if it's a problem for you.

thisoldcity · 22/02/2025 06:34

You are doing your friend a huge favour here, don't forget that. House and pet sitters are very expensive for 2 weeks so your friend will be very grateful and will no doubt want you to do it again. From your point of view, this was not a brilliant arrangement because of her mum, so you need to tell her that carefully. I bet her mum doesn't usually bob in and out of her daughter's house like that. To her, the house was 'empty' as her daughter was away, so your friend maybe will be quite annoyed at her mum in and out of her house. What on earth was she doing?

the80sweregreat · 22/02/2025 06:35

Why can't your friends mum look after the pets? Sounds as if she can't bear the fact she's asked you and not her or something like that
I think I'd refuse to do it again tbh

ConscientiousHouseSitter · 22/02/2025 06:36

Whatatodo79 · 22/02/2025 06:26

I think you are a very sensitive person and I'm sorry you've found this so difficult but it's not really much in it is it? Her mum is possibly an interfering busybody or potentially she doesn't know you very well and was wanting to check you were either ok or looking after the house alright. You don't mention what she was actually doing in the home? Did you disappear each time and not know? I'd just say ti the friend that her mum poppped in quite a few times and took you by suprise doing so unannounced so sorry her dad saw you in her pyjamas and keave it at that. If she asks you to house sit again tell her that her mum needs to let you know when she is coming by.

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Her mum was sorting out my friend's workroom and garage. I definitely think that was sincerely the case the first 3/4 visits. The last two I think she was just collecting things or checking she'd done it right (not too sure?!)
Definitely not just checking up on me. As she didn't come at all the first week. She knows me a fair bit. Or did when her daughter and I were much younger. I don't live nearby now, and people evolve of course. So, I didn't know she'd do this.
I actually understand her needing to come round and sort her daughter's space, as apparently my friend had asked her to. Though I knew nothing about it till I arrived. My problem was the lack of warning, and her letting herself in etc. I found it very alarming. But yes, I am a very sensitive person. So maybe other people wouldn't mind so much.

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devildeepbluesea · 22/02/2025 06:41

I kind of disagree… unless the mum and daughter had agreed between them that she would come and go and not let you know, i think she was pretty inconsiderate. I actually lent my house to friends for a month some years ago (dire emergency and i had somewhere i could stay) and even then I never came in without messaging ahead. I think it would be incredibly rude not to.

So yeah i would mention it and say you’re happy to do it again provided the mother understood that boundaries are different when you’re there.

ConscientiousHouseSitter · 22/02/2025 06:41

thisoldcity · 22/02/2025 06:34

You are doing your friend a huge favour here, don't forget that. House and pet sitters are very expensive for 2 weeks so your friend will be very grateful and will no doubt want you to do it again. From your point of view, this was not a brilliant arrangement because of her mum, so you need to tell her that carefully. I bet her mum doesn't usually bob in and out of her daughter's house like that. To her, the house was 'empty' as her daughter was away, so your friend maybe will be quite annoyed at her mum in and out of her house. What on earth was she doing?

Yes, funnily enough, she (friend's mother) mentioned she wanted to get it all done before [insert friend's name] returns, as she doesn't want to get in her way! But, she had no hesitation getting in my way! It just felt a bit disrespectful.

I know said friend is very grateful I was here, and said it made it much easier for her to be away.

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ConscientiousHouseSitter · 22/02/2025 06:43

devildeepbluesea · 22/02/2025 06:41

I kind of disagree… unless the mum and daughter had agreed between them that she would come and go and not let you know, i think she was pretty inconsiderate. I actually lent my house to friends for a month some years ago (dire emergency and i had somewhere i could stay) and even then I never came in without messaging ahead. I think it would be incredibly rude not to.

So yeah i would mention it and say you’re happy to do it again provided the mother understood that boundaries are different when you’re there.

Thank you! So glad someone sees it the way I do.
Yes, it was just appalling manners I felt, as well as the fact it made me feel so uncomfortable.

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ZekeZeke · 22/02/2025 06:47

If your friend asks you to house/pet sit again just say ask your mother, sure she was there ALL the time

If it's a once off favour, just leave it. No point blowing up their relationship. If the mother is that over bearing with you I'm sure she suffocates her daughter, living so close.

Herewegoagainz · 22/02/2025 06:47

I wouldn’t say anything, but I wouldn’t house sit again. If she asks again and you say no, if she pushes for a reason why then I would tell her.

ConscientiousHouseSitter · 22/02/2025 06:48

the80sweregreat · 22/02/2025 06:35

Why can't your friends mum look after the pets? Sounds as if she can't bear the fact she's asked you and not her or something like that
I think I'd refuse to do it again tbh

Actually, she looked after them for a week. My friend's trip was for 3 weeks. I couldn't do the first one due to commitments. So, her mum had the dog in her house, and popped in to feed the cats. Obviously much nicer for them all to be in their own home with someone staying with them.
Friend's mum has 2 dogs of her own, and I get the impression she didn't want to do more than that one week.

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ConscientiousHouseSitter · 22/02/2025 06:50

A mixture of replies. Hmm, much to mull over. Maybe I'll see how the conversation goes, and she might even bring it up herself...

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ConscientiousHouseSitter · 22/02/2025 06:53

Thank you all for taking the time to reply. I'm off to make some flapjacks for said friend's homecoming. I'll check back in on the thread later.

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Headingtowardsdivorce · 22/02/2025 06:58

If I were your friend, I'd rather you told me than you refuse to do it again next time if asked (as some posters have said they'd do).

I would have no problem with you simply saying that you really enjoyed the house and animals but could I just ask my mum to not let herself in without messaging first as it scared the shit out of me!

Or words to that effect!

GravyBoatWars · 22/02/2025 06:59

Oh that would not have worked for me at all and I don't blame you for being completely on edge about it all. I remember when I first moved in with my DH and step-kids after having lived on my own for years I genuinely struggled with not knowing when they would walk in the door for a while; having that with someone I don't particularly know would be truly awful. Saying something to the mum early on would obviously have been best for your own sanity but that bird has flown.

No, I wouldn't mention anything to your friend. There's just nothing productive she can do with that information right now so the only outcome will be her feeling bad, you feeling bad for saying something that made her feel bad, and potentially her having conflict with her mum. So vent here or to an unconnected friend or family member and then let it go. In the future if she asks you to do it again or if she mentions arranging another house sitter then gently let her know - at that point you would be giving her the information with a purpose and you'll likely feel less anxiety about saying it after some time as passed.

ConscientiousHouseSitter · 22/02/2025 07:48

@Headingtowardsdivorce and @GravyBoatWars thank you both. Interesting, totally opposite replies!
You both make good points though. I do wonder if not saying anything today, but saying something next time, might not make clear the extent of my discomfort about it? On the other hand, I'd be horrified if I said the wrong thing, and made anyone feel guilty. I'd have to be extremely careful how I word it. The purpose of my saying something would be to make clear I'm happy to do it again, but only with the understanding her mum won't turn up almost daily unannounced and stay for hours! I could explain that the issue is me being a very private person.

Anyway, I'll see how the conversation naturally goes. She's not back till this evening, and I'm staying overnight before heading home; so I could wait till tomorrow when we're both more relaxed, and she's well slept. I'll see!

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pinkdelight · 22/02/2025 08:04

Definitely tell her. Your problem hasn't been the mum so much as your own reluctance/inability to speak up for yourself and if you once again 'lose your tongue' and say nothing just to be nice then you'll be tied in knots indefinitely and will have all this pent up stress to deal with in future. It's really not so hard to express your own feelings and you need to make a start so it doesn't build up into a bigger thing. Just say the first week was great but the second week her mum kept coming over unannounced and it really freaked you out and made it awkward and uncomfortable especially as you felt you couldn't say anything. You feel bad even saying it now, but just wanted to let her know so it won't be an issue if you help her out in future. There - nothing to object to in that. It's not you who's made the problem and you've every right to make the point so it's not a problem in future. Just don't say nothing and go home angsting about it.

ConscientiousHouseSitter · 22/02/2025 08:07

@pinkdelight thank you. That's really helpful. I think you're right. Instinct tells me I should speak up. Carefully!

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sugarspiceandeverythingnice12 · 22/02/2025 08:07

Is it possible for her to stop her mother popping into her home? Do they have the sort of relationship in which there is mutual respect and understanding?

If she is a bit browbeaten by mum, what you say won't make any difference

ConscientiousHouseSitter · 22/02/2025 08:10

sugarspiceandeverythingnice12 · 22/02/2025 08:07

Is it possible for her to stop her mother popping into her home? Do they have the sort of relationship in which there is mutual respect and understanding?

If she is a bit browbeaten by mum, what you say won't make any difference

I don't know how they usually work it. I assume her mum lets herself in freely unannounced. I'm actually intrigued to find out how often it happens normally.

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MatchaTea1 · 22/02/2025 08:12

ConscientiousHouseSitter · 22/02/2025 06:36

Her mum was sorting out my friend's workroom and garage. I definitely think that was sincerely the case the first 3/4 visits. The last two I think she was just collecting things or checking she'd done it right (not too sure?!)
Definitely not just checking up on me. As she didn't come at all the first week. She knows me a fair bit. Or did when her daughter and I were much younger. I don't live nearby now, and people evolve of course. So, I didn't know she'd do this.
I actually understand her needing to come round and sort her daughter's space, as apparently my friend had asked her to. Though I knew nothing about it till I arrived. My problem was the lack of warning, and her letting herself in etc. I found it very alarming. But yes, I am a very sensitive person. So maybe other people wouldn't mind so much.

I actually understand her needing to come round and sort her daughter's space, as apparently my friend had asked her to. Though I knew nothing about it till I arrived.

This was really unfair of your friend. I would have to say something, you were doing her a massive favour and she didn’t let you know her mum would be so present - I would assume the mum probably was told to carry on as normal as your were fine with that which was pretty outrageous of your friend who presumably knows that you are introverted and would not appreciate this level of intrusion.

ConscientiousHouseSitter · 22/02/2025 08:14

Though @sugarspiceandeverythingnice12 I know they're close. Though, as with every relationship, it's hard to know exactly if not in the midst of it.
I found it extraordinary that she (friend's mother) didn't even knock when I was here. It just made me feel very disrespected. Undeserving of basic courtesy or something? Not sure how my friend feels about it.

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