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What should I say to my friend?

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ConscientiousHouseSitter · 22/02/2025 06:07

I've name changed for this, as it's outing.

I've been house, dog and cat sitting for 2 weeks for a close friend whom I've known for many years. I travelled from the other side of the country to help her out, as I knew she wouldn't relax if she had strangers looking after her dog. I'm self-employed so was able to do it.

The animals are gorgeous, and it's a lovely house. I'm a massive animal lover, and take the responsibility very seriously. It's gone brilliantly well, apart from... My friend's mother! Who lives just down the road. She very kindly picked me up from the train station, and made it known she was around if I needed anything, so I was very grateful. But, I think because of all that, the boundaries were a bit blurred. She told me she needed to pop by at some point to sort stuff out for her daughter, my friend. That's fine. I understood that. But, I didn't fully comprehend what that would look like. Week 1 no problems. But, this last week, from Sunday onwards has ended up being very stressful because of her numerous uninvited visits. She turned up last Sunday morning, just before I walked the dog. The chain was still on the door, but I heard her trying to come in. Took me by surprise, as no heads up to say she was on her way. I left her to it. She was still here when the dog and I got back. Left for lunch then returned with no warning whatsoever and let herself in! I'm very introverted and private, so found this very stressful. I would, even if it was my own mum! When she finally left, she mentioned she would return another day to do more stuff. I should have then said, please could she message me first, and knock the door. But, I felt uncomfortable, and kind of lost my tongue. Next day, I was out walking the dog. I knew I'd locked the door, as I was so conscientious about protecting my friend's home that I checked and double checked it was locked. When we got back the door was unlocked! For a moment I thought I was going mad, and hadn't locked the door after all. So, I was feeling guilty and worried, but called out in case she was there - sure enough... She'd unlocked it with her key and let herself in! I was shocked, and didn't know what to say, so just said something like I was glad she was there, as I worried for a moment that I'd forgotten to lock the door. She misunderstood my meaning! Anyway, she stayed hours. When she finally left, she said she needed to come back one more time just to finish off. Said it'd be Thursday or Friday. So, you can imagine my shock when, the following day, I opened the door to head out with the dog, and there she was on the doorstep about to let herself in! I did find it a little funny, as well as stressful! She said she'd be an hour, and she was gone when we got back, phew!
So, all done I thought. Now I can relax. Buuut, Thursday morning - standing at the sink in my pyjamas, front door opens, and in she comes with her husband in tow 😩 Again, no warning, no knock, just lets herself (and her husband) in. Said they need to collect something. That time, I think my dismay was written on my face, so I felt certain that was that. Until yesterday! In she came again to do something, check something (not even sure at that point) I actually think I had a mini panic attack, as really thought she was finished. After putting the spuds I'd prepared in the oven, I made my excuses and went upstairs, saying I was sorting the beds or something. We said goodbye. I kind of hid. Until a calling upstairs to see if I knew I had something in the oven - arrrgh! Of course I knew. I'd only just put it in. I'm so risk averse. Especially re fire, especially in someone else's house, and with animals I'm responsible for. So, I was actually quite hurt by that. But, probably that's just over sensitivity due to the general stress of her numerous unannounced visits. Other stuff too, like uninvited advice about recycling etc when I had sorted it all the week before. Just generally, her presence, no matter how well meaning, has made the week far less enjoyable than it would otherwise have been. I think my friend hoped I could have a holiday in her absence.
Anyway, so, said friend returning today. She'll ask how it went. I've obviously sent regular updates and photos of the animals, so she knows that went brilliantly. But, not sure if I should gently sensitively say that I struggled with her mum's uninvited visits, without warning or knocking? I honestly don't think I'd do it again, if the same thing happened. So, she might like to know?
I'm guessing she and her mum have a no knock policy. They have eachother's house keys, and let themselves in to eachother's homes freely? Up to them of course. But, I'm not their family! Surely her mum should have realised it was totally different with a non family member here?! I'm still feeling stressed about it. It's made it such an unrelaxing week, which is a shame, as I've loved the animals and house.
I've got a very good relationship with my friend, and could word it in such a way that wouldn't offend. But, wonder if easier to keep quiet? What do you lovely Mumsnetters think?

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ConscientiousHouseSitter · 22/02/2025 10:13

PricklyLikeCactus · 22/02/2025 09:04

I'm now imagining your friend coming back and being horrified at what her mum has done to her house and shocked that you didn't let her know it was happening 😂

Oh crikey! I wouldn't know whether to laugh or cry, or both!

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ConscientiousHouseSitter · 22/02/2025 10:19

Eldermilleniallyogii · 22/02/2025 08:54

If it's her daughter's house she probably feels she has as much right to you to be there. I'm like you and wouldn't like someone just walking in but it's not your house and unless she was walking into the bedroom I'm not sure you can complain. I imagine if you'd asked her to text she'd have been put out as she probably thinks she has more right to be there than you. I would tell the friend you found it a bit intrusive and so maybe next time if her mum is going to be there anyway then she should look after the dogs otherwise maybe she can be encouraged to knock on the door when she knows someone else is there.

Yes, I think that because it's not my house and so on, that's partly why I felt awkward saying anything. It's a tricky one, as it's possible we just both had very different expectations.
I think I'm very into privacy generally. Even if I had a house guest in my own home. Not someone doing me a favour at all, I'd still communicate clearly about my comings and goings, and not set foot in their private space for those few days without permission. I guess everyone's different.

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ConscientiousHouseSitter · 22/02/2025 10:27

NameChangedOfc · 22/02/2025 09:02

Agree with this. What a nightmare of a woman! If she has absolutely no respect for your boundaries, OP, I shudder just thinking how invading she'll be with her daughter! Your friend will have completely normalized it so she would benefit from a reality check: this is not normal!

Thank you for this. Glad to hear I'm not the only one who thinks it's not normal!
I genuinely think her heart's in the right place; but she's just lacking boundaries. It has been a bit of a nightmare. Really hoping she doesn't come in today! At least not before my friend returns 🥴

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CuteEasterBunny · 22/02/2025 10:31

I think if she wanted her mum at her house that frequent she would have asked her to house sit.

I would make your friend aware how often she was there incase she had no idea and was there to snoop.

ConscientiousHouseSitter · 22/02/2025 10:37

CuteEasterBunny · 22/02/2025 10:31

I think if she wanted her mum at her house that frequent she would have asked her to house sit.

I would make your friend aware how often she was there incase she had no idea and was there to snoop.

Ah, that's a good point

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ilparadodosdoltos · 22/02/2025 10:48

Mumdiva99 · 22/02/2025 08:14

Blimey of course say something. Mum should have sorted the workroom the first week.
Just tell your friend - the pets were a delight, buy you couldn't relax as you never knew when mum would let her self in. Even came with dad one dad and caught me in my PJs. I would be happy to pet sit again, but not if others are in and out. (Of course I don't mind having tea and cakes with your mum one day for a catch up at a pre-arranged time).
Your friend will get what you are saying.
You were there for a break too. And as you are helping out - your rules go.

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I completely agree with this. I think it's fine to say something if you couch it as 'I felt uncomfortable'. It's honest and it's about how you feel, not what someone else is doing wrong. Surely most women (and men) would understand not wanting a man and woman both entering a property unannounced when you're standing in your bed clothes. You can't control whether someone chooses to be offended so telling her isn't offensive. You don't sound as if you'd say it in any other than a polite, sensitive way anyway!

ConscientiousHouseSitter · 22/02/2025 11:16

@ilparadodosdoltos thank you. That's helpful. Yes, if I make about my feelings, not her mum's actions, hopefully that's not offensive at all then.

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Trunksarebetter · 22/02/2025 11:27

I would say to your friend “I loved looking after the dogs and you know I’m happy to do it, but honestly, your mum was there more than she wasn’t, so I don’t really understand why she didn’t just do it. I’d happily do it again if it helps, but I don’t need supervision.”

niadainud · 22/02/2025 15:08

Why on earth didn't you put the chain on the door?

ConscientiousHouseSitter · 22/02/2025 15:19

niadainud · 22/02/2025 15:08

Why on earth didn't you put the chain on the door?

Good point! I don't know. I did initially, but I guess I'm not in the habit of that, except at night. She'd have come anyway, and I'd just have had to come and let her in, so not sure it'd have made any difference. I also genuinely didn't think she'd come round so much. I was surprised every time. Funnily enough, I've had the chain on much of today. A day of baking, cooking, housework for friends' return etc, so needed even more privacy. But, yes, I probably should have done more. Even if it just gave me a few seconds warning. Though I also found the sound of her trying to push the door open with the chain on very alarming. That happened the first time.

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niadainud · 22/02/2025 15:26

ConscientiousHouseSitter · 22/02/2025 15:19

Good point! I don't know. I did initially, but I guess I'm not in the habit of that, except at night. She'd have come anyway, and I'd just have had to come and let her in, so not sure it'd have made any difference. I also genuinely didn't think she'd come round so much. I was surprised every time. Funnily enough, I've had the chain on much of today. A day of baking, cooking, housework for friends' return etc, so needed even more privacy. But, yes, I probably should have done more. Even if it just gave me a few seconds warning. Though I also found the sound of her trying to push the door open with the chain on very alarming. That happened the first time.

I'd certainly have preferred letting her in to being surprised by her suddenly arriving in the kitchen when I was in my pyjamas. Although I think I would have been far less patient than you were and would have made my annoyance felt after the first couple of times. Even if your friend is happy for her mum to let herself in the rules change when you have someone else in residence to look after your home.

IhadaStripeyDeckchair · 22/02/2025 15:48

I'd tell the friend.
I enjoyed being here & looking after the animals.
I didn't enjoy your Mum's frequent, long visits. She just walked in without knocking or texting beforehand to check it was OK. It was too intrusive & put me on edge because I never knew when she'd turn up.

See what the friend says in response and if she asks you to house & pet sit again just remind her that you found her mum too much last time so unless she can guarantee the visit will be 100% Mum free you won't do it again.

Oriunda · 22/02/2025 16:57

I'm amazed that the mother's husband thought it was appropriate to have walked in on a woman clearly in their nightclothes. That shows a distinct lack of boundaries, and respect for OP. What's next ..... the man letting himself in alone, without his wife, whilst OP is sleeping, dressing or having a shower?

You are doing your friend a huge favour. You need to raise this now with her, to ensure appropriate boundaries are in place for the next time.

ConscientiousHouseSitter · 22/02/2025 17:59

@Oriunda yes, a definite lack of boundaries more than anything else. Friend on route. Sounds like she's very jet lagged. So, probably better I chat with her about it all tomorrow. I hope I find the courage.

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ConscientiousHouseSitter · 23/02/2025 09:21

Update! We just had 'the chat' this morning. Really insightful and instructive for both of us. Happened naturally and easily too. Busy with said friend today, but might post again tomorrow, as it's a useful story and outcome for all the chronic people pleasers out there, who are terrified of offending (yep me!) Thank you all for your advice x

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burnoutbabe · 23/02/2025 09:30

niadainud · 22/02/2025 15:08

Why on earth didn't you put the chain on the door?

This! I'd have done that if I didn't want to be bothered by people coming in with their own keys.

Mumdiva99 · 23/02/2025 10:57

Great that you talked. Have a fun day today.

ConscientiousHouseSitter · 25/02/2025 06:30

Old news now, and the stress I described above is gradually fading from memory! Especially as I'm no longer in the house. So, apologies for posting again, as I'm sure you've all shifted your attention to other threads now too. But, I said I'd update, and I'm a woman of my word! I woke early, so a good opportunity...

Well, the outcome was great. I was dreading bringing it up, but knew I owed it to myself, and my own human dignity, as well as to my friend if she wanted me back, and to the lovely animals, who'd far rather be with a familiar human in their own home than with a stranger.
But, in the event, the conversation happened very naturally, and I made sure I was respectful. I tried to remember the unwritten rule that we're allowed to criticise our own mothers, but we don't like it when those outside the family join in! I made sure it didn't sound like criticism.
The morning after she got back, fortunately she slept brilliantly, and whilst cuddling her Ddog and expressing so much gratitude the 3 furries were so well looked after (really lovely of her to say) the subject of the tidied workroom and garage came up! I said her mum had been working very hard, and been round a lot to do it! 🫣 She asked if that had been OK?! So, the obvious cue for me to gently explain that with my personality I found the lack of warning and knocking very unnerving, and the amount of visits in that last week, and the fact I hadn't understood before that that would happen. But clarified that it would be lovely to see her for a cuppa and chat at an agreed time, as well as admiring her exemplary work ethic!
Friend very apologetic, and explained that she hadn't asked her mum to visit at all when I was there! Her mum asked her if she could sort the garage and work room in her absence, on week 1! When she was looking after the animals, before I arrived. She'd obviously just not got round to it then, but felt she had to do it before the homecoming. But, friend's mum told me she'd been asked to do it by her daughter, my friend; which turns out was completely untrue!!!!
Anyway, here's the interesting part... Tbh I've always struggled with friend's mum. Even way back when we were teenagers. Always found her a bit controlling and gossipy. Though she's always had lovely traits too. But, I never said anything, as always thought they were thick as thieves, and really close. Hence why I was terrified of speaking up. But, turns out, their relationship is much more complex than I'd thought! She does struggle with the invasion. She often puts the chain on the door for that reason! Her mum gets upset if her 'help' is refused, so she tolerates it to keep the peace. It's also useful sometimes, so it's a tricky one for them. She acknowledged her mum's quite bossy and controlling. I let her say those things, so I didn't have to! We also agreed her mum's very anxious, and these things are partly a symptom of that, so we can have compassion for her at the same time, which I do, and it's partly why I didn't have the heart to say anything at the time, and probably partly why I didn't keep the chain across at all times. Interestingly, my friend said I should have put the chain across too, just as some of you have said! Not entirely sure why I didn't... 🤭
So, all good. An easy chat that was very enlightening in several ways; and that didn't linger. We moved on to chat about her trip, the animals etc.
We left it that she wouldn't speak to her mum about what happened. I asked her not to. But would wait till next time, and she'll make it very clear then that she doesn't need anything tidied when she's away! As well as asking her to ping me a text if she pops round for whatever reason. So, all sorted 😊

One awful comedy moment - we briefly feared her mum had accidentally thrown out two bags of cash my friend keeps for her craft fairs! To the tune of about £2000. Heck! But, thank goodness we found it!

Anyway, it's been a great lesson to me. I've often had my boundaries disrespected, and partly due to a desire to be liked, to people please and to not risk causing any offence, I've said nothing, and left the situation feeling resentful and slightly crushed. So, it really feels amazing to have spoken up, and without causing a jot of offence, on the contrary. Said friend said it was really helpful to hear someone else say those things about her mum. I feel great about the outcome actually. Helped by you lovelies here. So, thank you all so much. Hopefully it helps some of you too with similar issues x

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Bamboozled5 · 25/02/2025 17:50

Thanks for the update. Sounds like you handled that very well!

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