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Teachers to get legal support against parents who defame them amid huge rise in vexatious complaints

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noblegiraffe · 20/02/2025 11:48

Amid a huge rise in vexatious complaints against schools and teachers, a headteacher has been awarded damages against two parents who conducted a campaign of harassment against him.

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2025/feb/16/secondary-school-teacher-paid-damages-after-alleged-harassment-by-pupils-parents

An academy trust who provide sickness insurance cover will now also cover defamation https://schoolsweek.co.uk/cease-and-desist-trust-supports-staff-to-sue-online-trolls/

"Schools often end up dealing with the same complaint on multiple occasions. This is because parents wishing to complain about a school can submit their grievance to numerous agencies: the Department for Education, the Education and Skills Funding Agency (ESFA), Ofsted and the Teaching Regulation Agency, as well as their MP and local media." https://www.tes.com/magazine/news/general/majority-school-leaders-see-rise-parent-complaints

"In the meantime, the NAHT is seeing school complaints policies “being ignored, and complaints being escalated straight to the DfE or Ofsted”, according to assistant general secretary James Bowen."

Generally, this rise in vexatious parental complaints is unmanageable for schools at a time when services are already stretched to breaking. So if you have a genuine complaint about a teacher or the school

  1. follow the school complaints procedure (this should be on their website).
  2. do not fire off the complaint to multiple agencies at the same time
  3. do not try to whip up a frenzy among parents on social media
  4. do not defame teachers on social media
  5. do not stalk and harass teachers or their families
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noblegiraffe · 20/02/2025 19:52

Leeto888 · 20/02/2025 19:48

That’s your interpretation @noblegiraffe All I’m doing is trying to clarify what’s happened between these parties. I’m not condoning any bad behaviour.

Well, I've found a TikTok account and twitter accounts, including one in the name of one of the couple pushing a petition to get the headteacher sacked. The outcome of the settlement required that the instagram page and facebook page be taken down, but it doesn't seem to be any doubt that they exist.

Previous newspaper articles suggest that there were witnesses to threatening and abusive behaviour on the school premises which is why they are now banned from entering the school site.

Do you think that this is all made up?

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Leeto888 · 20/02/2025 20:11

It doesn’t matter what I believe @noblegiraffe

noblegiraffe · 20/02/2025 20:15

And yet here you are posting all over the thread disputing what happened, even though there is evidence of it having happened.

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Allswellthatendswelll · 20/02/2025 20:21

EdithStourton · 20/02/2025 17:53

The issue isn't whether this HT is a nice guy or good at his job or whether genuine complaints get ignored.

The issue is that some parents complain all the time, unnecessarily, and make the lives of school staff more stressful than they are already. Some of them are desperate, for whatever reason, to get a perfectly average, reasonably behaved (in school, at least) child diagnosed with something. One mother of my acquaintance complained and complained and complained that the school was recognising her child's issues, and the child was on the autistic spectrum and goodness knows what. She took the diagnosis all the way up the line and the final word was that the child was suffering from mild anxiety - and no bloody wonder, given how the mother had carried on. She took up loads of SLT and SENCO time and caused a lot of stress.

Another parent of my acquaintance complained persistently about a TA. Her child had no diagnosis, but was still being given 1:1 TA time every day (taking the tA away from the rest of the class). The TA had the temerity to try and make the child do some work, so the mother complained to the teacher that the TA was picking on her little darling. This caused a couple of terms of stress for the TA, who is the kindest of people.

I have said before on school threads that I have nothing but absolute respect for parents of children with genuine issues who support them, fight tooth and nail to get EHCPs for them, and advocate for them to the school (and the school where I was employed worked very closely with such parents, and achieved some incredible outcomes).

But there are some parents who have completely unreasonable expectations and want everything their own way. When that doesn't happen, they complain to the SENCo, and SLT in general, and then directly to the HT, and then to the chair of governors, and then to County. Some of them behave in a totally inappropriate manner, including all over social media. A shot across their bows like this court case is, IMHO, a bloody good thing.

Yep. All of this. Happens all the time. Our amazing headteacher is currently having her life made a misery by a parent who wants a constant 1:1 TA for her child, despite not having the funding for it or the child having the need for it. Hours and hours of her time and the SENCOs time wasted. Lots of other children missing out on support and time needed. The selfishness of some parents is just hideous and it only takes a few unreasonable ones to make life hard for all the staff in a school. More importantly the children of the reasonable majority will miss out.

LlynTegid · 20/02/2025 20:25

I am glad to see this. I would have more sanctions than just damages, though there should be compensation paid to acknowledge this.

It also ought to extend to vexatious complaints against the medical profession in some circumstances.

RainbowColouredRainbows · 20/02/2025 20:35

A massive issue is social media. I don't think some parents appreciate the negative impact their words have. Parent WA groups and FB pages can be very supportive places but they can also become echo chambers. Some adults do not have the tech literacy skills to realise that their comments are permanent and are not free of reprimand. The school I'm a govenor of has a massive issue with parents taking issue to something that has been said and rather than raising it with the teacher at the time, escalating it into a massive thing. Parents who prior to social media would never have got wind of it, then pick up on it and start to form negative opinions of that teacher and so when there's another minor incident, it escalates again. We had one group in which actual adults were taking pictures off the site of staff members and writing horrible comments about them or turning them into memes completely unaware that a member of that group was screenshotting the lot and reporting them to the head.

A second problem is the lack of protection staff have against abuse. They are expected to take it as part of the job. We cannot raise formal complaints anywhere about abusive children and there's little recourse for abusive parents apart from banning them from the site. We need an NHS approach to this in that if you are abusive, you are no longer permitted to use our services. Generations before us didn't find it difficult not to swear and scream at staff or bring knives into the classroom, so I'm not too sure why members of the current generations of parents and students struggle with this element.

Leeto888 · 20/02/2025 20:52

I think it’s perfectly ok for me to join in on the thread @noblegiraffe I’m sorry you don’t like my contributions.

EdithStourton · 20/02/2025 21:07

We need an NHS approach to this in that if you are abusive, you are no longer permitted to use our services.
Yep. It should be made clear to parents what counts as taking the piss and the school should be clear that this won't be tolerated. The problem is that taking a hard line can end up harming children who are already vulnerable.

And their vulnerabilities have a negative impact on the other DC in the classroom, some of whom have their own vulnerabilities (eg a parent with serious MH issues who never takes the piss out of the school, but provides an unstable home life for their DC).

The moral equations schools have to try and balance are incredibly difficult. Unfortunately the pain in the arse parents do not appreciate this.
(And, as ever, if your child has genuine SEN and you are advocating for them appropriately, you are NOT a pain in the arse parent.)

SuperTrooper14 · 20/02/2025 21:20

Leeto888 · 20/02/2025 19:25

The parents haven’t been ordered to pay anything. They have agreed to a settlement of £10k. There is a difference.

Wrong. The headteacher obtained a court order that requires the parents to pay £10k in damages and costs by tomorrow. It’s in the first line of the Guardian article OP shared.

madaboutpurple · 20/02/2025 21:24

I know lots of teachers and I am glad I didn't consider teaching as a career. I am full of admiration for them .Their job is difficult.

SuperTrooper14 · 20/02/2025 21:24

Leeto888 · 20/02/2025 19:48

That’s your interpretation @noblegiraffe All I’m doing is trying to clarify what’s happened between these parties. I’m not condoning any bad behaviour.

What’s to clarify? They made a complaint against the head and when their complaint wasn’t upheld they abused him and other school staff and were escorted from the premises, started defaming him on FB with the aim of getting him sacked, harassed him at his home, harassed his wife by dangerous driving, and ethnically abused his children online.

MaeveAB · 20/02/2025 21:46

HollyBerryz · 20/02/2025 12:38

Your Op said:

'Schools often end up dealing with the same complaint on multiple occasions. This is because parents wishing to complain about a school can submit their grievance to numerous agencies: the Department for Education, the Education and Skills Funding Agency (ESFA), Ofsted and the Teaching Regulation Agency, as well as their MP and local media.'

This isn't true as Ofsted don't deal with complaints just log them on a system where they might get looked at next time the school is inspected. The DfE just log them to see if improvements to policies are required (which is clearly stated on their website). The TRA wouldn't even register a complaint let alone investigate it unless it's very serious. Therefore schools aren't dealing with the same complaint multiple times at all.

In practice, OFSTED don't help as they do sometimes react to complaints from individual parents, even though their policies say that don't and advise that parents must firstly go through all of the stages of the school complaints policy.

You have assumed, I think, that this complaint is logged and addressed at the next inspection. Again, not always true.

What OFSTED often do is share the complaint with the LA and ask for a response. It is part of my LA role to address this with the headteacher and governors. This may include a school visit, meetings, talking with pupils, written evidence, whatever is required give objective information back to OFSTED.

OFSTED decide if they need to do anything else. We don't get a further response from them.

Many, many of these complaints are unfounded, yet they take up so much LA officer, director and school leader time and resource. They may also require LA legal service time.

(Adding a sense of frustration that OFSTED don't follow their own policies as so much time, effort and angst would be saved if they did).

Leeto888 · 20/02/2025 21:55

SuperTrooper14 · 20/02/2025 21:20

Wrong. The headteacher obtained a court order that requires the parents to pay £10k in damages and costs by tomorrow. It’s in the first line of the Guardian article OP shared.

The order arises out of the agreement between the parties. The would have been no admissions to facts. There was no decision made by the court following a finding of fact. I appreciate this is a technical issue but you seem to believe there was a decision made by the court based on evidence they heard, which is not correct.

SuperTrooper14 · 20/02/2025 22:04

Leeto888 · 20/02/2025 21:55

The order arises out of the agreement between the parties. The would have been no admissions to facts. There was no decision made by the court following a finding of fact. I appreciate this is a technical issue but you seem to believe there was a decision made by the court based on evidence they heard, which is not correct.

No, I am aware that there was no hearing and no evidence presented in a courtroom. He still obtained a court order, however, after beginning proceedings.

Leeto888 · 20/02/2025 22:07

FWIW I am not denying anything or defending anyone. What does worry me is a party facing a legal bill of £500k for a £20k harassment case. As I said earlier I would seriously consider agreeing to an order to pay £10k if I was facing this. Litigation is risky. Much like the innocent [not saying these parents are innocent] postmasters agreeing to plead guilty to crimes they most certainly did not commit.

Leeto888 · 20/02/2025 22:08

SuperTrooper14 · 20/02/2025 22:04

No, I am aware that there was no hearing and no evidence presented in a courtroom. He still obtained a court order, however, after beginning proceedings.

Yes he obtained an agreement before trial.

noblegiraffe · 20/02/2025 22:12

Leeto888 · 20/02/2025 22:07

FWIW I am not denying anything or defending anyone. What does worry me is a party facing a legal bill of £500k for a £20k harassment case. As I said earlier I would seriously consider agreeing to an order to pay £10k if I was facing this. Litigation is risky. Much like the innocent [not saying these parents are innocent] postmasters agreeing to plead guilty to crimes they most certainly did not commit.

"His wife Stephanie, 34, said: 'I'm devastated that it's gone so far. We don't regret putting up the Facebook page but I do regret sending my two daughters to his school."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12855785/School-head-launches-20-000-legal-fight-stop-parents-two-pupils-waging-campaign-harassment-against-used-social-media-claim-evil-bully.html

Bit risky proceeding with a court case where you'd need to deny that you'd set up a Facebook page of abuse against the headteacher when you'd admitted to it.

This is hardly the postmasters case is it? Why would you make that comparison?

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Leeto888 · 20/02/2025 22:16

I made the comparison with the postmasters because someone said you would defend yourself in court if you hadn’t done whatever it was you were being accused of. I was simply pointing out that in practice that sometimes doesn’t happen, the postmasters being a clear example of that.

noblegiraffe · 20/02/2025 22:57

Leeto888 · 20/02/2025 22:16

I made the comparison with the postmasters because someone said you would defend yourself in court if you hadn’t done whatever it was you were being accused of. I was simply pointing out that in practice that sometimes doesn’t happen, the postmasters being a clear example of that.

I said "I think if someone wanted a restraining order against me because they claimed that I had been harassing them, posting vile abuse about them on social media and encouraging others to do the same, and I hadn't actually been harassing them at all, I'd let it go to court."

The problem here for the couple was that there was evidence all over the internet and witnesses to the abuse, because they did it.

With the postmasters, the computer program said they did it. The computer program was wrong. Are you suggesting that the massive stack of evidence against the couple, including them admitting they did it, was wrong?

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mdw · 03/05/2025 19:38

Look if it’s really serious and you have the facts and the evidence to present then go to the police I would advise

madaboutpurple · 03/05/2025 19:46

If schools want teachers to stay in the profession then this is a god step forward. There have been cases where teachers have been hounded out and little has been done to help those teachers.

Fearfulsaints · 03/05/2025 19:58

I get to see a lot of complaints as I am a clerk in 3 Trusts.

It's really stressful for staff. The volume and personal nasty nature has increased and there is often an online campaign going on at the same time.

People copy the governors, thier mp, ofsted etc into the most minor of issues, then get very cross when I have to explain that governors have a strategic role, and thier role in complaints is very specific and outlined in the complaints procedure and actually copying them in an an earlier stage means they can't then perform thier role.

One school I had the police advice we removed some statutory info about governors from our website as they were at risk.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 03/05/2025 20:51

The level of vitriol and intensity of threats some parents direct at school staff is absolutely ridiculous.

It's often difficult for schools to recruit staff to work in attendance. Ever wondered why? Because being the named person seen as responsible for penalty charges, school attendance orders and prosecutions is bloody dangerous and a fraction over twenty two grand a year isn't enough to take that risk.

LlynTegid · 03/05/2025 20:54

Vexatious complaints should be a criminal offence.

Ribenaberry12 · 03/05/2025 20:55

Good,

I have known too many good, talented, caring and hardworking people move industries because parents take out their own shortcomings on them.

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