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Teachers to get legal support against parents who defame them amid huge rise in vexatious complaints

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noblegiraffe · 20/02/2025 11:48

Amid a huge rise in vexatious complaints against schools and teachers, a headteacher has been awarded damages against two parents who conducted a campaign of harassment against him.

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2025/feb/16/secondary-school-teacher-paid-damages-after-alleged-harassment-by-pupils-parents

An academy trust who provide sickness insurance cover will now also cover defamation https://schoolsweek.co.uk/cease-and-desist-trust-supports-staff-to-sue-online-trolls/

"Schools often end up dealing with the same complaint on multiple occasions. This is because parents wishing to complain about a school can submit their grievance to numerous agencies: the Department for Education, the Education and Skills Funding Agency (ESFA), Ofsted and the Teaching Regulation Agency, as well as their MP and local media." https://www.tes.com/magazine/news/general/majority-school-leaders-see-rise-parent-complaints

"In the meantime, the NAHT is seeing school complaints policies “being ignored, and complaints being escalated straight to the DfE or Ofsted”, according to assistant general secretary James Bowen."

Generally, this rise in vexatious parental complaints is unmanageable for schools at a time when services are already stretched to breaking. So if you have a genuine complaint about a teacher or the school

  1. follow the school complaints procedure (this should be on their website).
  2. do not fire off the complaint to multiple agencies at the same time
  3. do not try to whip up a frenzy among parents on social media
  4. do not defame teachers on social media
  5. do not stalk and harass teachers or their families
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SuperTrooper14 · 20/02/2025 14:17

Leeto888 · 20/02/2025 14:08

The article actually says ‘alleged harassment’ so it’s pretty clear from that they haven’t accepted any of the allegations as part of the settlement agreement. I’m not saying they come out of this covered in glory, I’m just stating facts.

If you're going to state facts, then don't overlook that the parents have agreed to ten restrictions on their behaviour going forward in keeping with the "allegations". That in itself is an admission - they wouldn't have agreed to such restrictions if there was no basis for them.

Really tired of apologists for abusive parents who treat teachers like they are personal paid employees and beholden to them. It's no wonder hard-working teachers like my OH are leaving the profession in droves.

Leeto888 · 20/02/2025 14:18

I haven’t ignored that anywhere @SuperTrooper14

SuperTrooper14 · 20/02/2025 14:21

Whatabanana · 20/02/2025 14:13

I have met this head teacher and although it sounds as if the parents went too far I have no sympathy for him. I have nothing positive to say about the man and I know of many others who feel the same.

"Sounds" as if they went too far? The dad scared the headteacher's partner witless with his dangerous driving. He could've run her off the road. But that's okay because the headteacher isn't very likeable. 🙄

Whatabanana · 20/02/2025 14:29

SuperTrooper14 · 20/02/2025 14:21

"Sounds" as if they went too far? The dad scared the headteacher's partner witless with his dangerous driving. He could've run her off the road. But that's okay because the headteacher isn't very likeable. 🙄

They never went to court so we don't know both sides of the story.

TERFspice · 20/02/2025 14:39

Those parents deserve a conviction for that behavior, regardless of how unlikes or the headteacher and his partner are.

Bitteroldshrew · 20/02/2025 15:08

HollyBerryz · 20/02/2025 13:17

Bringing it up during an inspection isn't the same as having to deal with it as a formal complaint being investigated by Ofsted is it. It will be a quick chat.

In my experience Ofsted spoke to the LA who will then have to go through the whole thing again with the school.

In our case we followed our complaints policy thoroughly. Every complaint which came in added more and more to it which effectively makes it a new complaint so you have to start again. We put a clause in our policy to state that complaints believed to be vexatious would not be investigated beyond stage 3. Stage 4 involved convening the complaints committee of Governors and multiple meetings. It is very time consuming and a huge ask if people who are volunteering.

The LA made us repeat our process and follow the latest complaints through to stage 4 (again). We found the same things. There were some lessons to be learned but ultimately the complainents didn't want a resolution. They wanted the Headteacher gone.

The things these people did is unbelievable but they failed to mention them on the social media posts which they repeatedly put out.

BringMeTea · 20/02/2025 15:55

Some of 'those' parents on the thread I see. What a thankless task teaching in the UK is.

SuperTrooper14 · 20/02/2025 16:26

Whatabanana · 20/02/2025 14:29

They never went to court so we don't know both sides of the story.

The parents have been ordered to pay the headteacher £10k and have agreed to 10 restrictions on their behaviour, including keeping away from him, his family and school property. The case didn't need to go to court to understand both sides of the story.

Whatabanana · 20/02/2025 16:34

SuperTrooper14 · 20/02/2025 16:26

The parents have been ordered to pay the headteacher £10k and have agreed to 10 restrictions on their behaviour, including keeping away from him, his family and school property. The case didn't need to go to court to understand both sides of the story.

I disagree. I have empathy for other teachers but not this particular one. Whatever else the parents have done or not done we don't know for sure. As I said, they probably went too far....but perhaps they felt totally powerless in a difficult situation.

SuperTrooper14 · 20/02/2025 16:43

Whatabanana · 20/02/2025 16:34

I disagree. I have empathy for other teachers but not this particular one. Whatever else the parents have done or not done we don't know for sure. As I said, they probably went too far....but perhaps they felt totally powerless in a difficult situation.

Nope. There is zero justification for what they did – and there's no "might have done or not done" about it. The HT has all the screenshots!

Would you support a campaign of harassment against a nurse or a bank manager or the person who served you in Sainsbury's because someone felt they weren't doing their job properly? In my book there is no difference in this case. These parents had every right to make a complaint against this HT but no right to defame and harass him and his family – including making ethnic slurs against him and his children – just because they weren't getting the outcome they wanted.

SuperTrooper14 · 20/02/2025 16:46

BringMeTea · 20/02/2025 15:55

Some of 'those' parents on the thread I see. What a thankless task teaching in the UK is.

You can guarantee these will be the same parents moaning and whinging that their kids are being taught by one supply after another because the school can't fill vacancies because of the recruitment and retention crisis. IF the school can even afford supplies.

CoralHare · 20/02/2025 16:52

I’ve seen both sides of this.As a teacher and a parent.

Like all relationships, healthy parent-school relationships require good faith, trust and communication. The current system really errodes trust with things like fines, limited access to staff, overworked staff who are mainly on the verge of quitting and parents who are already stressed with cost of living pressures. It’s no wonder everyone is falling out! It’s like a bad marriage.

HollyBerryz · 20/02/2025 17:21

@SuperTrooper14 @BringMeTea I'd be happy if my kid got any education at all. But complaining about the lack of one just makes me vexatious and one of 'those' parents apparently.

I also did a sar once (the audacity!) seeing staff discussing the likelihood of us bringing a disability discrimination claim and discussing it with their personal email addresses was certainly eye opening. I expect that complaint was 'vexatious' as well. I mean how dare parents exercise their children's legal rights!

SuperTrooper14 · 20/02/2025 17:32

HollyBerryz · 20/02/2025 17:21

@SuperTrooper14 @BringMeTea I'd be happy if my kid got any education at all. But complaining about the lack of one just makes me vexatious and one of 'those' parents apparently.

I also did a sar once (the audacity!) seeing staff discussing the likelihood of us bringing a disability discrimination claim and discussing it with their personal email addresses was certainly eye opening. I expect that complaint was 'vexatious' as well. I mean how dare parents exercise their children's legal rights!

There's an ocean of difference between you advocating for your child and bringing a genuine complaint against the school, which every parent would do in similar circumstances, to the parents in this case posting defamatory slurs to try to force the HT out of his job, dangerously harassing his wife while she was driving and being so abusive towards staff they had to be escorted off school grounds.

noblegiraffe · 20/02/2025 17:39

So on this thread we have ‘we don’t know if the couple did set up an abusive Facebook group’ even though they admit they did, ‘we don’t know if they did anything inappropriate’ despite the restraining orders and ‘he deserved it’, about the abuse and harassment.

FFS.

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EdithStourton · 20/02/2025 17:53

The issue isn't whether this HT is a nice guy or good at his job or whether genuine complaints get ignored.

The issue is that some parents complain all the time, unnecessarily, and make the lives of school staff more stressful than they are already. Some of them are desperate, for whatever reason, to get a perfectly average, reasonably behaved (in school, at least) child diagnosed with something. One mother of my acquaintance complained and complained and complained that the school was recognising her child's issues, and the child was on the autistic spectrum and goodness knows what. She took the diagnosis all the way up the line and the final word was that the child was suffering from mild anxiety - and no bloody wonder, given how the mother had carried on. She took up loads of SLT and SENCO time and caused a lot of stress.

Another parent of my acquaintance complained persistently about a TA. Her child had no diagnosis, but was still being given 1:1 TA time every day (taking the tA away from the rest of the class). The TA had the temerity to try and make the child do some work, so the mother complained to the teacher that the TA was picking on her little darling. This caused a couple of terms of stress for the TA, who is the kindest of people.

I have said before on school threads that I have nothing but absolute respect for parents of children with genuine issues who support them, fight tooth and nail to get EHCPs for them, and advocate for them to the school (and the school where I was employed worked very closely with such parents, and achieved some incredible outcomes).

But there are some parents who have completely unreasonable expectations and want everything their own way. When that doesn't happen, they complain to the SENCo, and SLT in general, and then directly to the HT, and then to the chair of governors, and then to County. Some of them behave in a totally inappropriate manner, including all over social media. A shot across their bows like this court case is, IMHO, a bloody good thing.

Phase2 · 20/02/2025 18:06

Well I've read the Times article on it which has a lot of detail.

Merseyside police said: “We are aware of a long-running dispute involving the two parties and we have investigated a number of allegations and counter-allegations. There is no evidence of any criminal offences being disclosed or any course of conduct taking place which would amount to a criminal offence.”

Despite the above I think it's pretty disgusting to park up and wait for a teacher outside their house which the dad did, although both sides dispute what took place. Just locating yourself at the home to make contact is bad enough.

I think the online stuff is terrible but also I'm inclined to just think fuck it let them crack on but it's a hard thing to ignore. I suspect the parents are hard work and not willing to accept any responsibility for their children's behaviour.

Saz12 · 20/02/2025 18:13

CoralHare · 20/02/2025 16:52

I’ve seen both sides of this.As a teacher and a parent.

Like all relationships, healthy parent-school relationships require good faith, trust and communication. The current system really errodes trust with things like fines, limited access to staff, overworked staff who are mainly on the verge of quitting and parents who are already stressed with cost of living pressures. It’s no wonder everyone is falling out! It’s like a bad marriage.

I'm not a teacher. But I agree entirely that the current approach feels very confrontational. The school-wide messaging over attendance, etc... it just feels like parents are seen as feckless lazy fuckwits. Then, because there aren't enough teachers, DC have too-big classes with too many too-disruptive and some very under-supported pupils, many of whom should be getting more appropriate specialist support than they can be given in a big group....so none of the DC do as well as they should.
So it becomes a vicious circle.

SuperTrooper14 · 20/02/2025 18:29

The school-wide messaging over attendance, etc... it just feels like parents are seen as feckless lazy fuckwits.

I agree with this, but I also know the pressure comes not from the schools themselves but from the Govt via Ofsted. Schools can get marked down in an inspection for having low attendance rates, so it's become a high pressure, contentious issue at a time when the social contract that existed between parents and schools has broken down because of Covid. Schools don't issue the fines either, it's the LEA.

nitrofueled · 20/02/2025 18:32

We ultimately live in a destroy someone's integrity and livelihood witch hunt culture today

noblegiraffe · 20/02/2025 18:45

People going 'oh but it's not vexatious complaints, they're all entirely reasonable and schools just say they are vexatious because they don't want to address them clearly have never worked in a school.

I've seem some right old shit posted about my school on Facebook. I've had some absolutely batshit complaints made about me and have read jaw-droppingly awful stuff sent to my colleagues. But, as headteachers have said, and the stats bear out, the situation is getting worse at a time when we really cannot afford to have school staff tied up dealing with this shit, and teachers and school staff being faced with it.

I hope unions become more proactive in encouraging staff to take action too.

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Daisydiary · 20/02/2025 18:53

Have to say I agree with @HollyBerryz I took a complaint to the governors at my DC’s old school and rather than address it, they tried to rip apart how I’d written the email! It was a joke. I’ve never seen anything so ridiculous. In the end I moved schools and made it known exactly why. They knew they were in the wrong but couldn’t admit it. Coming from a family of teachers, I’m happy that protections exist but I have also seen more than my fair share of shit teachers and cover ups. If I hadn’t experienced this situation myself, I wouldn’t have believed it.

Leeto888 · 20/02/2025 19:25

SuperTrooper14 · 20/02/2025 16:26

The parents have been ordered to pay the headteacher £10k and have agreed to 10 restrictions on their behaviour, including keeping away from him, his family and school property. The case didn't need to go to court to understand both sides of the story.

The parents haven’t been ordered to pay anything. They have agreed to a settlement of £10k. There is a difference.

noblegiraffe · 20/02/2025 19:32

Leeto888 · 20/02/2025 19:25

The parents haven’t been ordered to pay anything. They have agreed to a settlement of £10k. There is a difference.

Why are you so keen to split hairs here?

When I wrote my OP I saw the thread playing out in a few ways. I did not expect the major theme to be a defence of the couple who posted abuse and harassed a headteacher.

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Leeto888 · 20/02/2025 19:48

That’s your interpretation @noblegiraffe All I’m doing is trying to clarify what’s happened between these parties. I’m not condoning any bad behaviour.