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An unholy trinity or just a seedy threesome: Trump, Musk and Putin? - Trump thread #138

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Spandauer · 15/02/2025 20:11

With a side order of Vance, Zuckerberg and Netanyahu.*
(*Other flavours are available)

Whoever is winning at the moment will always seem to be invincible.
George Orwell

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BustingBaoBun · 23/02/2025 08:45

DOGE has published its report supposedly showing billions of $ savings. Only problem is, it's riddled with inaccuracies

Contracts that had not yet been awarded

Instances where a single pot of money is listed multiple times — tripling or quadrupling the amount of savings claimed

Purchase agreements that have no record of being canceled, but were instead stripped of language related to diversity, equity and inclusion

Contract savings identified by DOGE that do not match with records they refer to in the Federal Procurement Data System

Contracts where the underlying document is for an entirely different contract
DOGE has already corrected its website twice:

So basically they are lying and making it up as they go along

ohreallyIsee · 23/02/2025 09:36

I'm starting to wonder if they're setting up Musk and the doge to be the fall guy when people start to get angry

BustingBaoBun · 23/02/2025 10:02

Yes. And having watched a series of 'town halls' (not sure if that's the correct term...) where Republicans are furiously angry with their congress people, shouting at them about defunding of medicaid, job cuts, and more. Trump was called a megalomaniac at one town hall to huge cheers.

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Igotjelly · 23/02/2025 10:14

BustingBaoBun · 23/02/2025 10:02

Yes. And having watched a series of 'town halls' (not sure if that's the correct term...) where Republicans are furiously angry with their congress people, shouting at them about defunding of medicaid, job cuts, and more. Trump was called a megalomaniac at one town hall to huge cheers.

Oh I haven’t seen any of this! Good to hear.

BustingBaoBun · 23/02/2025 10:17

Igotjelly · 23/02/2025 10:14

Oh I haven’t seen any of this! Good to hear.

The worm has to turn at some point surely... roll on the midterms.

Wallaw · 23/02/2025 10:21

Igotjelly · 23/02/2025 10:14

Oh I haven’t seen any of this! Good to hear.

Yes, apparently Republican elected officials are cancelling or declining to hold town halls now.

heldinadream · 23/02/2025 10:42

Shit >>>>>>>> fan. 💥

SerendipityJane · 23/02/2025 10:57

If people are forced to resign, there could be many unintended consequences

Oh, I think the consequences are very much intended.

SerendipityJane · 23/02/2025 10:58

Wallaw · 23/02/2025 10:21

Yes, apparently Republican elected officials are cancelling or declining to hold town halls now.

Is that a good idea in a land with more guns than people ?

borntobequiet · 23/02/2025 10:59

So basically they are lying and making it up as they go along

As they say, it’s a feature, not a bug.

Wallaw · 23/02/2025 11:11

SerendipityJane · 23/02/2025 10:58

Is that a good idea in a land with more guns than people ?

You know, if a few people want to use their 2A rights and their ammo to make their feelings clear to their lily-livered republican representatives in place of using them on innocent school children, who am I to judge?

Igotjelly · 23/02/2025 11:18

People seem to be loudly sounding the alarm. I wonder how the military would respond.

An unholy trinity or just a seedy threesome: Trump, Musk and Putin? - Trump thread #138
SerendipityJane · 23/02/2025 11:26

Wallaw · 23/02/2025 11:11

You know, if a few people want to use their 2A rights and their ammo to make their feelings clear to their lily-livered republican representatives in place of using them on innocent school children, who am I to judge?

The US has endured countless school massacres with no end in sight under the guise that the second amendment is a backstop against tyranny.

It would be a shame if all those innocent deaths were in vain and really just a fig leaf for masculine bollock waving.

prettybird · 23/02/2025 11:28

Having only recently watched the film "Civil War", I can see that the circumstances that led to the premise of the film (which wasn't really about the civil war itself but about what it does to people) genuinely coming to pass Sad

SerendipityJane · 23/02/2025 11:36

The best way for Russia to become top dog would be to "allow" the US to slide into a civil war. That at a stroke removes them from the world stage.

I noted ages aged under a different username and hairstyle that the Brexit event was much more about the disruption than the outcome. Because the best way to bet on one of 2 possible outcomes is to make sure both suit you.

The same happened with the US election. And the same is happening in Germany. Regardless of the "winner" the outcome will be contentious and unstable. The game was rigged aeons ago.

That is my call for what is going on. Whether it succeeds or not is another matter. But that is my reading of the situation.

It's not all bad news. I suspect that (as usual) the weird bastard character of the British hasn't behaved as it was supposed to. Because Britons are not merely English speaking Russians. Or Americans come to that. Farage knows this, and it's amusing to see his discomfort increasing as his "chums" very unhelpfully treat us like we are.

PerkingFaintly · 23/02/2025 11:41

Just need to say I'm not OK with that, @Wallaw .

Though I hear – and share – the frustration. As I'm sure do we all.

BustingBaoBun · 23/02/2025 11:42

Talking of rigged elections and Russian interference, this is a fascinating article about how Moldova is trying to stand up to russian rigging of their elections. It is full out rigging... paying off elderly poor people to vote differently, even men from Moscow travelling around with bags of cash. Moldova is standing firm but it is a crucial country to Russia as a bridge between Ukraine and Nato countries.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/feb/23/moldova-former-soviet-republic-kremlin-putin

SerendipityJane · 23/02/2025 11:46

BustingBaoBun · 23/02/2025 11:42

Talking of rigged elections and Russian interference, this is a fascinating article about how Moldova is trying to stand up to russian rigging of their elections. It is full out rigging... paying off elderly poor people to vote differently, even men from Moscow travelling around with bags of cash. Moldova is standing firm but it is a crucial country to Russia as a bridge between Ukraine and Nato countries.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/feb/23/moldova-former-soviet-republic-kremlin-putin

But note how the outcome will become irrelevant. Either way a future of instability beckons. Just ask the UK post-Brexit.

PerkingFaintly · 23/02/2025 12:04

So, a thing we may need to talk about is the well-established concept of the "IMF Riot".

It was an explicit and (quietly) admitted part of the tactics of the Chicago Boys and others of that school in the 1980s and 1990s, as part of their shock doctrine to break any status quo and create openings for opportunists.

They would recommend that a government – sometimes an unsuspecting one – made economic changes which would cause extreme financial and social discontent.

This would, if all went to plan, boil up into civil unrest. The government could then announce crackdowns and declare martial law or whatever, and take centralised authoritarian control of the country – "to restore law and order," you understand.

And that would be it. The regime and controls would then remain in power indefinitely.

In that era they used the IMF as the vehicle for delivering the "advice" to the government, hence the name. But the tactic of deliberately provoking unrest in order to have a pretext for cracking down is as old as the hills.

Not all provocations look like Kristallnacht.

Wallaw · 23/02/2025 12:19

PerkingFaintly · 23/02/2025 11:41

Just need to say I'm not OK with that, @Wallaw .

Though I hear – and share – the frustration. As I'm sure do we all.

It was (largely) a joke.

Although, I am coming back to edit and say, I do wonder if these 2nd amendment absolutists would feel quite the same if one of their families was directly affected. They seem quite cavalier about other people's children.

PerkingFaintly · 23/02/2025 12:21

Oh I know.

JoshLymanSwagger · 23/02/2025 14:15

It's tempting to do that...but then Leon Skum would have my contact details.
My list would start like this:

  1. Watched an Orange man wobble to music in front of a crowd of brainwashed people.
TopPocketFind · 23/02/2025 14:34

Yosemite National Park workers just hung an upside-down American flag—THOUSANDS of feet up on El Capitan. That’s not decoration. That’s a distress signal.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/outdoors/article/yosemite-protest-job-cuts-20180229.php

RedRosesParmaViolets · 23/02/2025 15:29

Well it looks like something far more scary could be coming down the line, perhaps a sensational headline but Elon wants a robot army by 2027

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