Shockingly underweight model in TV ad

[IdaPrentice]

Has anyone seen the TV ad for Dylon (of all things)? - it features two female models, the first (with afro hair) is wearing a loose top / pant suit so it's hard to tell, but seems pretty thin, but the second, wearing red, is so so thin. Her arms just go in a straight line, no curve of any kind of muscle, she's bordering on skeletal, her face looks gaunt too.

I just saw the ad for the second time - by coincidence I'd just read an article (think it was on BBC news website) about how fashion houses have moved away from 'body positivity' and plus size models, and thin is back. The theory is this is partially influenced by all the Hollywood stars on Ozempic.

This is so unhealthy to put on TV as the kind of female beauty that everyone should aspire to. I really thought we'd moved past it now. Depressing.

I know this is off topic in a way, but it's interesting. People hate this advice. But it's basically true: eat less, move more. The people I know who are so resistant to it and adamant that some bodies store extra fat etc really do eat more and move less. I met up with a friend recently who is using Mounjaro to try and lose weight. She said it wasn't working very well. But she tried to hail a cab to get us to where we were going, which was a 10-15 minute walk away and looked a bit shocked when I suggested it was near and we could walk. Then, when we ate, she chose deep fried food in batter and a side dish, which were, together, about twice the calories of the main course I chose.

I think if people get into the habit of moving less and eating more, they think it is normal, but it really isn't.

Its not as easy as that. How do you know you have eaten less? You basically have to calorie count which unless you eat all ready meals, is time consuming.
Move more? How do you know you are moving more? Again you have to track your physical activity. Maybe have the money to purchase a fit bit?

Personally I do not choose the healthiest low calorie food when eating out as eating out is a rare treat. I know in a pub that low calorie veggie curry has less calories, but I make that regularly for myself and more tasty than a pub does, so I am not choosing that. Obviously different if you regularly eat out.

Predictable though that a post that was about very underweight models, has turned into a thread that is bashing fatties.

Not really, the OP identified someone of normal weight as being unhealthy. As a species, what was once normal has now become de-normalised because of our changes in lifestyle and the vested interests of the food, drink, leisure & entertainment industries who are driven to sell us more

@Copernicus321 How do you know the model is a healthy weight?
If she is a catwalk model, the average BMI of catwalk models is 16, which is very unhealthy.

A reasonable knowledge of nutrition will enable people to know whether you have eaten more or less than the day/week before. I have never calorie counted in my life (though I do know the cal content of things in general). I know that yesterday I ate less than the day before.

You do not need a device to measure whether you are moving more or less than last week or whatever. On Saturday I didn't do any exercise as such. I walked quite a bit as we went to the city shopping. On Sunday I ran a race. I don't need a device to tell me that I moved more on Sunday.

I think we are over-complicated things with calories counting and activity trackers.

You put on weight if you eat 100 calories extra a day for a year. You also lose weight if you eat less than 100 calories a day. That is a slice of bread extra with your soup.
I know if I have eaten lots more or lots less. A meal out with a pudding for example, or a small dinner. But I have never lost weight without calories counting, or in my youth, starving myself, or making sure I go to bed really hungry.
Most movement is not exercise. And some people who do say a gym class move less than someone who does not do a gym class, but moves around a lot more. You can obviously tell the extremes easily. Sit around at a desk all day working and then driving home versus walking around town shopping and doing a gym class in the evening. But the everyday bits of movement that can make a real difference are harder to track. It is why people use fitbits.

I find eating less without calorie counting is only possible if you eat pretty much the same week in and week out. I do not even have the same breakfast every day.

And everyone I know who has ever been underweight says they find it really difficult to put on weight, including my mum. Surely it should be easy? All they have to do is eat more and move less.

They are two beautiful women - I'm jealous

I am not. Being a model is a shit life

Fair enough. I find that following my hunger ensures I maintain my weight. It has never been an issue for me, which I do recognise is down to genetics as well.

I don't tend to count everyday bits of movement as anything other than that.
I exercise a lot, but I don't regard that as extreme movement, it's just exercise and I enjoy it.

During periods where I am not doing my usual exercise (holiday, work trips, illness) I can see that I just don't get as hungry. Also, if (say over Xmas) when I've had more larger meals than usual, I'll naturally eat less in the coming days/week so I guess it all balances out.

I remember when Geri Halliwell was going through her ultra thin stage. Well, she still is, but it was extreme back then. She's written since about her eating disorder, but at the time I can remember friends commenting on how amazing she looked. My daughter looked similar when she was 6 stones and hadn't had a period for 18 months. Anorexia.
If someone had posted a photo of Geri at that time I guarantee Mumsnetters would've said it was thin shaming and that Geri had a healthy body.

www.standard.co.uk/hp/front/geri-can-overcome-her-eating-illness-6334705.html

and people completed my anorexia daughter who had heart palpitations, no periods and jutting bones, telling her she looked fantastic. They never told her she looked
fantastic at size8-10, but at size nothing she was suddenly amazing.
(she's since recovered)

complimented not completed!

Oh blimey. There are some on here who seem willing to only be happy once we all chorus: “Yes! Too thin! Put on weight! Be a woman!” 🙄. She’s a model / actress / whatever, and won’t be representative of most people, but looks perfectly healthy. Though now I’m imagining some Snag size models trying to twirl around like she does in the advert.

It really is that easy, in most cases..
Have what you want, to an extent, but have a smaller plate, eat until you feel satisfied not full. Thats how you know you’re eating less.
No snacking!
Go to bed feeling like you could eat something, but not starving.
Increase your daily activity.
Most people would lose some weight in a month by sticking to this.
You don’t need a fitbit. A decent pair of trainers & some willpower should do it.

No one sensible ever chooses a curry in a pub and certainly not a veggie one! These are things most people cook at home

Damn right Im choosing a deep fried option in a pub because I dont fry food at home and have never had a deep fat fryer.

I don’t make curries from scratch at home, and I never chose a deep fried option anywhere, so given a straight choice I’d have the curry.

Take my advice, never have a curry in a pub (if you're paying for it)

If you want a curry go to a Bangladeshi/Indian restaurant.

Pubs do many things well, currys arent one of them

Yes but everyone knows the fashion industry is just evil, evil, evil evil.

Have you seen Katie Price 'modelling' clothes on Facebook?

She's lost a lot of weight and does look too thin.

I read it and it's sad things have gone backwards with regards to body positivity. I know there are some people who are already slim taking these drugs so they'll be even thinner, which is shocking.

She looks gorgeous. Don’t bring jealousy to this site.

She is absolutely gorgeous