Lucy Letby press conference

[Viviennemary]

There is a press conference going on now trying to get Lucy Letby's conviction overturned. From what I read the guilty verdict was sound. All those ill babies dying when she was alone with them. Just a coincidence? Already been refused an appeal.

You don't need evidence of innocence ffs. You need evidence of guilt, evidence that you committed the crime.

This panel of experts have just said no crime took place, none of the babies were murdered. They died due to natural causes and/or the fuck ups of the doctors treating them.

I have a feeling this comment won't age well

All those PPs stating she's guilty, just watch the press conference, it completely exonerates Lucy and blames natural causes and medical mismanagement for all the deaths.
The panel of experts are the world leaders in neonatal medicine. Their findings must be believed. Each one is far more qualified than the crowns prosecution supposed expert whose evidence was presented in court. This is a miscarriage of justice and must be addressed.
The babies tragically died and there must be an enquiry into that but Lucy didn't do it

It didn't even age well in the 30 seconds it took to type.

People don't have to prove their innocence, that is not how anything in our system works. It would still have been a dim thing to write even if it turns out Letby killed all those babies and then some.

Letby did this and she’s paying the price!

I think you’re deeply confused about how criminal law and the judicial system works.

The number of Harold Shipmans victims is estimated to be possibly more than 300. Many of them were attributed to natural causes. So not surprising that it happened in Letby's case too.

I think she is is innocent and always have.

I think some people prefer the idea of a lone random murderer being responsible and being locked away forever as then they feel the threat has been removed from society. The idea of a whole organisation and multiple professionals being responsible in various ways and covering that up is a huge threat that we would all have to worry about as if that is the case it will undoubtedly be the cover up culture and at some point in everyone’s lives we rely on the nhs and if we can’t trust them then it’s terrifying. The fact the police and legal system seems to be onboard with the cover up and deception too is unfathomable.

I think it’s brilliant that so many with morals have got involved with a potential miscarriage of justice.

In Shipman's case there was forensic evidence and a genuine statistical outlier; and he certified the deaths himself.

In Letby's case, deaths which had been judged natural (with postmortems consistent with the findings of yesterday's expert panel) were declared unnatural, first based on poorly understood statistics, then on deeply flawed medical testimony.

There is no comparison.

I disagree. They both chose vulnerable victims and worked in a medical setting. Whistleblowers voicing suspicions were ignored and/or silenced. There were some similarities.

Those aren't similarities that suggest murder on Letby's part.

I disagree.

It was more than one or two, the head consultant of the neonatal unit, Dr Brearey was suspicious of her too. Lots of different things pointing at her. What's more likely, some sort of conspiracy involving neonatal consultants or her actually harming children. Again, there was other evidence.

Wow! This woman needs a retrial so that the expert evidence of Dr Lee and other experts can be heard. What a disgraceful situation.

So all of them conspired to blame it on a nurse and have her thrown into jail. Despicable monsters all of them....right.

No, I don't believe that. Groupthink and wishful thinking are possible without conspiracy. I am sure all of Letby's accusers genuinely believed the deaths needed further investigation by the police. That doesn't make them either right or objective.

Apparently the DNA evidence, that proved John Malkinson did not commit the rape that he spent 17 years in prison for, was unearthed 3 years after he was convicted. We cannot have these situations where people are rotting in jail for crimes they haven't committed when the evidence is readily available. It's inhumane.

More likely the doctors covering their backsides for their failing to properly treat these babies which was highlighted in the press conference,

The police conducted an investigation uncovering further evidence that resulted in Lucy Letby standing trial and being accused of the crimes. Consultants' suspicions weren't the only thing that resulted in her being tried and convicted.

No there was also inaccurate door swipe data and they only looked at the deaths and collapses she was on shift for. Yes that’s right there were other deaths and collapses that were deemed excessive 😔

Me to!

Absolutely. So glad you mentioned this case. Jefferies was treated very, very badly by the traditional media - this was in the days before social media. I often wonder if this was the turning point time for all white older men to be tarred with the same brush.

What is more likely, a previously well regarded nurse becoming a serial killer and managing to go under the radar and medically outsmart those much more educated in medicine than her or very sick babies dying in a poor hospital unequipped to look after them?

^ this, exactly. A young, female nurse has absolutely no power in this situation. The hospital managers need holding to account.

I've thought she might be autistic from early on in this case. The room with lots of cuddly toys, having parents overly involved, regularly complaining about colleagues showing perhaps black and white views. I can absolutely see my autistic child being similar in a few years.

There was also clearly something strange going on with the married consultant. Unclear whether it was a real affair or her misinterpreting behaviour.