Has anyone done ' Belief Coding' with Jess Cunningham?

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She's currently running a free online training which is a way to get people to sign up for her in person course. She's very engaging, but I can't work out if she's genuine or if it's a bit of a scam? Would be interested to hear about anyone's experiences if they've actually done a real life course with her. I worry that she's targeting women who are vulnerable and are looking for a quick fix, especially as she talks about things like manifesting and past lives etc...

And welcome to you too. Three posts on this thread, and no others.

Also bollocks.

Happy Mama, if you can provide the reference to the brain scanning while belief coding paper that would be good.
Likewise if you can provide a reference for a suitably powered randomised control trial for belief coding using validated and reliable measures with a statistically significant result and an effect size calculation. In terms of the claim that belief coding produces 'permanent' change I appreciate that that will be harder to evidence since it's not been around long but presumably you can provide a reference for a longitudinal study at least? Finally a reference to a randomised controlled trial showing that belief coding can help people experiencing infertility, as claimed on the belief coding website, would be really helpful. Details of Jess Cunningham's academic, clinical and professional qualifications in psychology, psychiatry, therapy and neuroscience would also help inspire greater confidence and credence.

Anyone who claims to have found a guaranteed way to make you happier in a way that people who have not spent money with them is lying. They will lure you in and promise that at the next level you'll discover this secret and if you don't it's you that failed.

A walk somewhere beautiful is a lot cheaper and proven to lift your mood. You can have that one for free!

BTW I can't find any details of the qualifications of the 'renowned' scientist Abhijeet Satani referred to in relation to belief coding Satani either. Anyone who can provide these? 🤔🤔🤔

https://www.instagram.com/p/DCMpcepsCa5/?imgindex=9&igsh=N2NxdXU0bTBqMmh3

From Abijeet Satani findings,please read the caption aswell
Google him,you will find him!
https://abhijeetsatani.com/

Your Welcome ☺️

I have only ever posted 3 times on the same thread and found very close minded people..every quick to jump in without actually looking at the facts!

@HappyMama2018 What qualifications do you need / have to "facilitate" Brain Coding please?

I see that you undertook the process yourself and then became a facilitator? How did that come about?

Ladies, the blocked emotions referred to are known as Samskaras. You can remove them yourselves by applying the methods taught by Michael A Singer in his wonderful book The Untethered Soul - and no, I have no affiliation whatsoever. Save yourselves a lot of money at the very same time. Best of luck.

Ah, an Instagram post. Must be legit then.

When did Jess Cunningham qualify as a psychiatrist? Or a psychologist? Or as a neuroscientist? Or was she that woman who was on The Apprentice?

Further to my previous post one thing is abundantly clear. Jess Cunningham is a serial entrepreneur. So much so that she appeared in the 2016 series of The Apprentice. At that time she was the owner of the online fashion company ProdigalFox and the operations director for a PR and marketing agency (according to Wikipedia). If that doesn't sound the alarm bells for you I really don't know what would.

What works for one does not necessarily work for another. Therefore, it's inevitable that whatever Jess is (currently) promoting in Belief Coding will somehow 'work' for some. That does not mean that it has any scientific basis at all. It clearly doesn't. Neither though, do many supposed miracle paths to happiness, the most effective of which (to my mind) cost absolutely nothing. Eat a balanced diet, exercise, get out into nature, meditate, limit social media and internet time. Far greater minds than Jess Cunningham have told us this for eons. That should tell you something.

I'm glad there is a discussion about Cunningham and this therapy pyramid scheme. She is an absolute charlatan. I've been following BC from the outset. I have read the study and it's completely meaningless. I've participated in psychological therapies research and have an MSc in that area so I'm familiar with the literature, I don't claim to be an expert but the paper JC has published is laughable. Word salad and cherry picked techniques from an evidence-based approach such as CBT does not make BC legitimate. Neither does referencing other people's books. She makes false claims of being "science-backed" and "evidence-based" which she has been doing for a long time without any basis. The rule of thumb is that any alleged therapeutic approach that requires a ®️ by its name is a commercial enterprise not a legitimate approach.

What concerns me is that her followers are not afraid to tinker with the precarious mental health of people who are very clearly in distress and have what often appear to be complex problems. I've seen videos on social media of people describing some enduring mental health difficulties who are paying large amounts of money for BC because it's been oversold to them as a cure all. Then those films have disappeared with no hint of any improvement. Who knows what's happened and how many thousands they have spent on this bogus cure? We will never hear of the ones damaged by BC because, like the critics, they will be blocked, deleted and silenced.

Then there are the facilitators who claim they are simply passing on the method that gave them a miracle cure. Today someone claims she would not be here without BC. Are people struggling with suicidal ideation to understand that BC is the answer?

What I want to know is how these "facilitators" recognise and manage Risk. Whether they're all registered with the ICO, whether they're insured, what their safeguarding knowledge is. Of course if these facilitators do find themselves having to explain their input at an inquest they won't see Cunningham for dust. If there is no way to shut this kind of thing down from a mental health perspective then I wish it could be taken up from a consumer perspective. In the meantime damage is being done to people.

I am laughing at all these people who are slating something that they have never tried. I was in a right mess when my sister was found unconscious after a stroke in India. As her next of kin, we organised life saving surgery to relieve the pressure on her brain, she was then in a coma. Had we done the right thing? Would she thank us for saving her life to spend the rest of her life as an invalid? No one knew how long she had been unconscious when she was found and the brain cells start dying straight after the stroke. I felt so bad for days, I felt like I had a football size knot in my stomach, it was so overwhelming that I was crying every few hours, it was a really horrible time. I had a belief coding session on grief and immediately felt better in myself. Obviously it didn’t help my sister, nor did me feeling like I had been either. I can now cope with any news coming from India about her condition and the knot in my stomach went away entirely, immediately. I recommend it to everyone. Don’t listen to people who have never tried it. I am raving about it, having tried it - Go for it, best thing I’ve ever done 😊

I’m sorry to hear about your sister @HappyPlumCat.

It sounds like you had a grief counselling session? I’m glad you felt better.

@HappyPlumCat I’m so sorry to read about your sister. How hard for your family and I’m not surprised you struggled; it’s sounds very difficult. I’m glad you found something that helped you.

However, you are only one example and there could be a number of factors explaining your positive experience that may have little to do with BC itself. For example the therapeutic relationship, talking to a neutral person, actively seeking support, good timing (getting support at the right time for you), good underlying mental health and many other factors. So it’s difficult to say that BC works just because it worked for you, and there is no evidence that it works across a large population.

There are plenty of people slogging away at BC, spending a lot of money and ending up in a worse place but they are silenced so that a positive picture emerges with JC making all sorts of claims that are not true. The problem is that BC is a money making exercise and there is no technique JC doesn’t include in her BC approach and there is no person she will turn down for their own safety. I’ve seen people with complex PTSD, diagnosis of bipolar disorder and EUPD told that BC will cure them. I’ve seen one woman with active suicidal ideation go Live on FB to say she is really struggling to “do BC right” and is beginning to struggle and what do you think the support from BC was then? I’ll tell you, deleted from the BC page and blocked for being negative. That is the action of a cult not a supportive therapy.

No doubt many people who call themselves Belief Coders are well meaning people and there may be people they really help due to a variety of factors as mentioned above, but if they really want to help people with mental health difficulties they’d be better off doing some proper training. Proper training includes recognising what is beyond your own skills and understanding Risk, having clinical supervision and having to fulfil further ongoing training requirements. This is important for the safety of people who may really be struggling.
As for JC, she is just a grifter on an ego trip.

Anyway, most importantly @HappyPlumCat I wish you and your sister well. 💐

It’s a pyramid scheme / multilevel marketing thing. I have a family member who’s got into it. You do one session and then are immediately encouraged to “train” to become a facilitator yourself. They’re targeting (mostly) women of a certain demographic, filling their heads with mumbo jumbo and telling them there are quick fixes for complex problems. It’s a potentially harmful scam.

Couldn’t agree more @Hatlife . I find it very concerning that a recruitment device operating under the cover of offering a “miracle cure” can get away with it simply by running on social media in private groups. It targets vulnerability (in typical MLM fashion).

We seem to make it very easy for MLM style scams in the UK as consumer protection doesn’t seem to recognise product/service type pyramid schemes and the advertising standards authority seems pretty toothless. Nobody is interested in stopping the false health (cure) claims that are aimed at mental health either. I wish we had a organisation like Truth in Advertising in the USA which has more clout. Sometimes I wonder if the lack of interest is due to the fact the victims are almost always women in these kind of scams.

I listened to one of the free meetings today, anyone who is saying "the first 50 people who buy today gets extra bonus content etc" is not to be trusted. Then suspiciously the video has disappeared, probably because they didn't get 50 people to sign up and they will try again tomorrow!. My advice is to find a local practitioner who does a combination of therapies and go and see them in person, pay as you go and if you dont like it you do not need pay anymore. Advice for practioners is obtain your skills and if your good and honest you will get work by word of mouth.

It’s sad to read the comments here. Jessica Cunningham may not be for everyone, but Belief Coding does work. If you haven’t experienced it, you can’t truly judge it. There are countless women in the BC community who were once depressed, even suicidal, and have completely transformed their lives. It would be a shame if the negativity here discouraged the OP from exploring something that could genuinely improve her mental well-being. OP, I’d encourage you to be mindful of who you let influence you, as the atmosphere here is very toxic.

yes, we should all be mindful of who we let ourselves be influenced by. I’d start with being vigilant about any entrepreneur who promises complete transformation once you’ve paid a lot of money. I’d also be wary of a group that is powered by anecdotes of immediate and total recovery from people who are also belief coders. Is the atmosphere on this thread toxic or does it simply contain the voices of people who have no vested interest in Belief Coding?

I don’t think the atmosphere is toxic but there are a number of posters who are capable of critical thinking and are rightly questioning pseudoscience and anecdotal
“evidence “ to support belief coding.

Someone I know got involved with the landmark Forum. She really got sucked in. High pressure tactics to recruit, train, get everyone you know to attend and pay for the course. It was really quite scary. I’m wary of any system that has money first and foremost as a driver , or which tries to coerce and pressure participants.

More BS from the Belief Coding cult
https://ajprui.com/index.php/ajpr/article/view/381/240?fbclid=IwQ0xDSwKykttleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHgVy3rcWOb67D8cZ4wY4ykbNNyFuj5uOLrH6OXykOTER86t3RSgbA-Msfp8M_aem_DpIMxQtxRJOdrRUJbictvw

What a monumental crock of shite.

I know nowt about this but am amused that the peddler in chief has the surname Satani. Brings to mind The Witches of Eastwick.

Abhijeet Satani is a 'researcher' with no qualifications and no actual inventions

He holds patents for 'cognitively operated systems' but despite some outlandish claims, has not operated on anyone's brain, provided one working prototype or has had his research peer reviewed (what peers, he doesn't even have a BSc)

timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/ahmedabad/computer-whisperer-opens-new-frontiers/articleshow/71783196.cms

@Gingernautit’s absolutely ridiculous isn’t it? I wouldn’t care but claims of being evidence-based and science-backed and this kind of “proof” is currently convincing some pretty vulnerable people to put their hopes and money into this “guaranteed” cure. It’s a scam and JC is an absolute grifter.