Thread 15 Starmer - Nolite te bastardes carborundorum

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Badenoch didn't mention the NHS at all in her key note speech.

Which other thread? PM please!

Starmer turning it around thread in aibu

Thank you

Because that's what Google indexes on.

Oakeshott has decided to become an immigrant.

https://bsky.app/profile/implausibleblog.bsky.social/post/3lfzpyvzakc2y

Top comment nails it.

Let's hope she gets her family to join her.

I wonder if this will be mentioned on LK show tomorrow?
Reform's MP's are not very committed to their UK constituencies it would seem.

Is Tice going too ?

I wouldn't watch LK for any insights. Not when there is a perfectly good patch of grass I can watch growing.

She has taken her/their? kids, somethimg to do with ps vat

Proof, if it were needed, that private schooling is a privilege of wealth.

I so hope she will be adopting the culture, as a good immigrant should.

Dubai. It says everything we need to know about her. Which we knew already, tbf.

Immerse in the national religion

"Immigrant" is one of those irregular nouns isn't it?

• You are a nasty immigrant

• I am a valued expat

Another Yes Minister fan?

Well I guess she doesn't hate all muslim people after all, just the non-millionaire ones.

Sorry, are you suggesting that state schools dont have talented people who are worth employing as students?
What a very odd view. I really can’t understand it. You think the only talented people are those whose parents happen to be in the top 5% or so of earners?

They are thieving rapists coming over here taking our jobs while simultaneously not working and getting masses of benefits - pretty sure that's the 3rd person plural form.

No @cardibach - the discussion was on how private schools must create actual educational advantage for children otherwise parents wouldn’t pay for it.
Personally, all the brightest students I have ever met (whatever school or sector they were educated in) are quite self sufficient anyway and perfectly able to work quite a lot out themselves.

However, from the IFS reports I have seen the top 1 per cent of earners pay 30% of income taxes and the top 10% pay 60% of all income taxes. And they have taken the largest burden of increases in taxation so if many leave, that will inevitably result in middle earners having to pay more tax.
So I am not in favour of driving millionaires and high earners away. It does not make any sense to do so, economically speaking. What I do believe in is more wage equality and less top ups required by the state. The question is how to achieve that.
If the mobile top 1 per cent want to go elsewhere like Dubai, there is not really much anyone can do about it.

Can you explain what you meant about employers going for foreign workers then? I must be confused.

Those figures just show how unequal society is. They aren’t an argument that the rich are hard done to.

The average worker pays less tax here than in Europe. That is a fact. The state has become heavily reliant on the taxation of higher earners. Some are paying 60% marginal tax rates. It is not sustainable. We will lose talent, whether we agree with it or not. The problem is that a lot of those in the younger bracket live in areas with extremely high housing costs. There are huge incentives to deter young professionals from staying in the UK. Those facts would be ignored at our own peril, long term.