A&E crisis

[mumsthewordi]

i am shocked to see the images from the wards, particularly impact on most vulnerable. Is this just the reality of a health crisis under any government, or do we think Labour have something to answer for?

It's not Labour.

It's the impact of years of underfunding plus Covid.

Labour have not been the ones in government who made the decisions that led to the collapse of NHS.

How on earth is labours fault

The NHS is a toxic environment to work in so most decent intelligent staff have left

Bloody hell, Labour have only been in oower for 5 minutes, and you want them to have fixed the NHS.

^power

It's not Labours fault, the NHS has been gradually collapsing during the conservative years and they did nothing to fix it. I have worked in Emergency Medicine for over 15 years and this is the worst I have ever seen it from a system point of view.

It’s clearly not Labour’s doing. This is what 14 years of underfunding and Brexit benefits looks like. Oh an electorate who seem entirely unable to grasp the connection between paying tax and decent public services. They demand a gold standard NHS free at the point of delivery but then absolutely refuse to pay a penny more tax for it 🙄.

You honestly think labour has caused the collapse of the NHS in the very short time they have been in power?!

I don't care for politics but how was the nhs last winter? Pretty bad then?

This is the nhs for years now

Lack of staff & beds isn't Labours fault at all, they take years to train/fund but different decisions should have been made on flu vaccinations, they were delayed until October, meaning many people didn't get them until November/December.
The reason this was done is that a delay would improve herd immunity and that it would help prolong the effectiveness of the vaccine into january feb.

Why isn't the vaccine offered to younger age groups?

There is also little done on moving people out of hospital into the community, there is no need to delay this for another 3 years, waiting for yet another report.

There was a serious road accident last week in Launceston, there were no Ambulance to send, all stuck in Derriford, waiting for handovers... 50 hr average wait at AE.

How is it labours fault. They have only just home into power? It's decades of management and underfunding

How can it possibly be Labour's fault. I'm absolutely sick of these threads; you lot are mad. If this is still happening in five years time then blame Labour. For now blame years of underfunding by the Conservative Party.

It's not just A&E... all wards are similar. I'm a NICU nurse, we had 10+ admissions on the weekend meaning we needed 24 nurses on shift. We never have that many.

Staff are burnt out and leaving the profession,

Thought about it myself. But winter is always bad.

I said have they some responsibility and something to answer

What can and should they be doing now to prevent winter deaths

For contrast - we visited A&E with my son yesterday. arrived just before 7am, seen and diagnosed promptly, and we left him in theatre for emergency surgery by 0950. He was back on the ward for lunch, all sorted by 12 noon, and home that evening. The place was not rammed, and staff were plentiful and there was a hum of activity. This is my own workplace, so I know it’s not all a bed of roses.

Some hospitals are run better than others, some hospitals have more people turning up who shouldn’t be there than others, and all of these issues are made worse by political interference.

Which main hospital was this?

So I think that's because he was a child, which quite rightly

I was in A &E with a non life threatening but possibly life changing issue in Autumn and was sent with an urgent letter by a GP. I spent 14 hours there and in that time seeing people come and go around 25% of them should never have even crossed the threshold.

It’s a major problem and even with the lack of GP appointments it’s still a problem because many of them don’t need even that. Plus 111 and other allied services try to send people in too quickly. A pharmacist suggested A &E once for a very minor issue, I did not go. Issue sorted quickly at home by myself I had just wanted supplies from her for it.

I don't think labour have anything to answer for. It will take years for them to unpick the legacy of austerity

Are you being deliberately obtuse or are you really this stupid????

Labour won't fix it. We've had them in power for over 20 years in Wales and the NHS has been declining year upon year. Before anyone says about funding our Welsh Government decided that £2 million would be well spent putting WiFi into A&E departments instead of actually treating patients so they can't complain about not having enough money when they waste it. There's too many people and too much money wasted for it to be put right. The whole system needs scrapping and a total overhaul.

Starmer should use his magic wand to instantly conjure up extra hospital and nursing capacity obviously. I wonder why he doesn't?

I wonder what percentage are Accidents and Emergencies...🤔

Nephew's wife loves to go to a&e with the children. This isn't uncommon.

Cambridge University Hospitals/Addenbrookes.