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I’m a PIP assessor, happy to advise if I can

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Impr90 · 31/12/2024 11:33

Hello all,

If you’ve got any questions you think I might be able to help with, please let me know

All the best for the New Year

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1AnotherOne · 31/12/2024 11:45

How long have you been in the role? I’ve heard it’s one of the highest turnover jobs and barely anyone sticks at it due to high pressure to submit work cases etc

Impr90 · 31/12/2024 11:45

MyOtherNameToday · 31/12/2024 11:42

I have multiple sclerosis and my PIP will be up for renewal in 2.5 years. My condition is incurable but fluctuating. I currently get highest rates but I really want to try and improve my walking so I can continue to work (and live!). Will this mean losing my PIP?

Hi, I’m sorry to hear of your diagnosis. When you say you’re hoping to improve your walking, what do you mean by this?

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Muddledbylifeadmin · 31/12/2024 11:45

MyOtherNameToday · 31/12/2024 11:42

I have multiple sclerosis and my PIP will be up for renewal in 2.5 years. My condition is incurable but fluctuating. I currently get highest rates but I really want to try and improve my walking so I can continue to work (and live!). Will this mean losing my PIP?

I have a similar condition and no, it doesn't stop your claim.

Impr90 · 31/12/2024 11:45

coldscottishmum · 31/12/2024 11:42

Do you struggle to assess people with autism?

Could you be more specific as to what you mean by struggle? Thanks

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TigerRag · 31/12/2024 11:46

maxwellparker77 · 31/12/2024 11:42

I am sorry you had a poor experience but I don't think that's fair. PIP assessors do not make the policies or design the point system, they just follow the protocols and award points as per the frame work. I imagine it's not the easiest of jobs.

The assessors write the report even if it totally contradicts the evidence which happened to me

Baileysatchristmas · 31/12/2024 11:46

TigerRag · 31/12/2024 11:46

The assessors write the report even if it totally contradicts the evidence which happened to me

Also happened to me. Said I said things I never said and said I could do things that I said I couldn't do.

Impr90 · 31/12/2024 11:47

LittleRedRidingHoody · 31/12/2024 11:43

It's quite a well known 'fact' that almost all first applications do not go through, though often appeals go through with identical information. I think the belief is this will put people off appealing, so the cost of the PIP bill is lowered overall. Is there any truth in this, or numbers you can share to refute it?

I don’t have any figures but I can certainly have a look. I definitely award more people than I don’t but I don’t know where that sits against other assessors

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x2boys · 31/12/2024 11:48

Mikiamo · 31/12/2024 11:42

Have you ever applied for PIP? Are you disabled?

Yes I have a severely disabled child who gets the highest rates of DLA I Dont think blaming an individual who is doing their jobs fair though
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Mikiamo · 31/12/2024 11:49

ARichtGoodDram · 31/12/2024 11:43

The pip assessor doesn’t make that decision. That’s the DWP

The DWP make the decision based on what the PIP assessor has said in their report. If the report consists of lies, then the claim will be turned down.

foxyfoxedfox · 31/12/2024 11:49

Anyone can say they’re anything on the internet. I hope nobody here makes decisions or fills in forms based on advice from some random who could be anyone. Take care trusting anything posted here.

Soontobe60 · 31/12/2024 11:50

Mikiamo · 31/12/2024 11:43

No, they attempt to trip people up, they use ridiculous things against people and they blatantly lie. It happens ALL the time. Why do you think they're famous for being evil?

Your hyperbole is staggering!

Impr90 · 31/12/2024 11:50

ARichtGoodDram · 31/12/2024 11:44

What made you choose to do that role?

I had to leave my previous workplace because it had become so dangerous due to low staffing. I persevered for as long as I could because I didn’t want to exacerbate the problem even further but it eventually became untenable

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MyOtherNameToday · 31/12/2024 11:50

Impr90 · 31/12/2024 11:45

Hi, I’m sorry to hear of your diagnosis. When you say you’re hoping to improve your walking, what do you mean by this?

When I first applied I had just had an enormous relapse (around 6 months earlier) and was very severely affected. My walking has improved enough to walk short distances but I want to be able to engage fully with physio and rehab to enable me to have a life. However will this mean that I'll be considered too 'well' for PIP? I'm only ever a flare or relapse away from being bedridden.

ViolinsPlayGentlyOn · 31/12/2024 11:50

Impr90 · 31/12/2024 11:47

I don’t have any figures but I can certainly have a look. I definitely award more people than I don’t but I don’t know where that sits against other assessors

Are you a decision-maker or an assessor? I thought the assessors write the reports but it’s the DWP decison-maker who makes the final decisions, so how are you awarding people PIP as an assessor?

Mikiamo · 31/12/2024 11:50

x2boys · 31/12/2024 11:48

Yes I have a severely disabled child who gets the highest rates of DLA I Dont think blaming an individual who is doing their jobs fair though
.

That isn't PIP.

Impr90 · 31/12/2024 11:50

MyOtherNameToday · 31/12/2024 11:44

I had a very positive experience with my PIP assessor who couldn't have been nicer and more helpful. I'm sorry if others haven't the whole system is very degrading but I can't fault my assessor. And yes, my assessor was a nurse so that probably helped.

This is lovely to hear. I’m so glad you had a good experience

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argyllherewecome · 31/12/2024 11:51

MyOtherNameToday · 31/12/2024 11:44

I had a very positive experience with my PIP assessor who couldn't have been nicer and more helpful. I'm sorry if others haven't the whole system is very degrading but I can't fault my assessor. And yes, my assessor was a nurse so that probably helped.

I did too. I'm my dd's appointee and when she moved from DLA to PIP the assessor was really good, prompting me to use certain wording and asking leading questions in order for me to give 'good' answers that I wouldn't have thought to give myself. I didn't need to submit any evidence and she got it on an ongoing basis.

OP: my question is: how closely does the description/answers on the application form have to match what the person says at assessment. A friend of mine took a form to an advice centre to be filled in and the responses do not in any way represent what the situation is. Eg, she can't leave the house, cook a meal or plan a journey. In the cooking question, it just said "X gets help from her daughter with the shopping". When she gets assessed her answer is going to be very different, does this matter?

x2boys · 31/12/2024 11:51

Baileysatchristmas · 31/12/2024 11:45

How can you do this job knowing how many people are refused when they have genuine disabilities? How can you reconcile the inhumane treatment disabled people are subjected to through the application and assessment process with your ethics as a nurse?

And if nobody's did the job nobody would get PIP.

ARichtGoodDram · 31/12/2024 11:51

Mikiamo · 31/12/2024 11:49

The DWP make the decision based on what the PIP assessor has said in their report. If the report consists of lies, then the claim will be turned down.

Yes but the assessor on here can’t tell that poster if her wanting to walk more will remove her claim.

Impr90 · 31/12/2024 11:51

ElloKip · 31/12/2024 11:45

I had a really good experience.

Applied and was awarded standard on both, purely for mental health reasons.

Assessor was really lovely and didn't distort anything I said.

It was a very fair outcome.

That’s great. I hope you’re feeling better soon

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Mikiamo · 31/12/2024 11:52

Soontobe60 · 31/12/2024 11:50

Your hyperbole is staggering!

Is it really? I actually support people through the process and I work in disability rights. I'm also disabled. I'm not exaggerating anything and the things I have seen and experienced are absolutely shocking.

ARichtGoodDram · 31/12/2024 11:52

Impr90 · 31/12/2024 11:47

I don’t have any figures but I can certainly have a look. I definitely award more people than I don’t but I don’t know where that sits against other assessors

You’re not an assessor if you award people?

assessors assess. Decision makers award (or not)

ShortyShorts · 31/12/2024 11:52

foxyfoxedfox · 31/12/2024 11:49

Anyone can say they’re anything on the internet. I hope nobody here makes decisions or fills in forms based on advice from some random who could be anyone. Take care trusting anything posted here.

This was my first thought.

As much as the OP could be....I don't know....a teddy bear psychiatrist or something, it's not fair to blame them for everything that's ever gone wrong when someone's applied for PIP! 🤦‍♀️

It is a ridiculous thread but still.

Soontobe60 · 31/12/2024 11:52

Impr90 · 31/12/2024 11:47

I don’t have any figures but I can certainly have a look. I definitely award more people than I don’t but I don’t know where that sits against other assessors

https://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/personal-independence-payment-pip/success-rates
This isnt totally up to date, but it shows the % awards made in each category last year.

Success rates for PIP claims by condition

Get the benefits you're entitled to: help with personal independence payment (PIP), universal credit (UC), employment and support allowance (ESA),disability living allowance (DLA). Claims, assessments, reviews, appeals.

https://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/personal-independence-payment-pip/success-rates

mollymazda · 31/12/2024 11:52

first time i applied, it was a half hearted attempt, i took no advice and quite rightly was rejected and i never appealed.

second time i applied, i had asisstance from someone at the local council, i did loads of research online and soon learned its not what you say, its how you say it! i was expecting another 'no' but after a great assessent with someone who was actually a Physiotherapist and had a good understanding of my condition i was given the lowest award.