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Would you still be alive if you lived in the 16th century?

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LittleMosIron · 30/12/2024 20:49

I would have died aged 7 from appendicitis. If not then childbirth or an infected tooth would have finished me off in my early 20's.

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ErniesGhostlyGoldTops · 31/12/2024 09:51

I was raised in a filthy house full of cats and cigarette smoke. I mouth breathed so much my facial bones didn't grow and I went from chest infection to chest infection so I would have died at about 6yo I reckon.

Aintnobodygottime · 31/12/2024 09:54

But you wouldn’t have lived with cigarette smoke in the 16th century.

YesExactlyYes · 31/12/2024 09:59

Aintnobodygottime · 31/12/2024 09:54

But you wouldn’t have lived with cigarette smoke in the 16th century.

Pipe smoke is a possibility - tobacco arrived in England in the 1570s.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 31/12/2024 10:01

Aintnobodygottime · 31/12/2024 09:54

But you wouldn’t have lived with cigarette smoke in the 16th century.

This is true, you would have inhaled a lot of other smoke though, and it becomes more harmful for many during the course of the 16th century with the shift to burning coal instead of wood.

Aintnobodygottime · 31/12/2024 10:03

Very true. But I think this thread is suffering quite a bit from people dying of things they may not even have had or experienced in the 16th century so I picked that one as an example!

pinkroses79 · 31/12/2024 10:06

I would definitely have died in my early twenties, or perhaps in childhood due to lack of antibiotics.

BlackChunkyBoots · 31/12/2024 10:06

I would have died from pre-eclampsia. That's a sibering thought. My daughter probably wouldn't have survived. Yikes.

catlovingdoctor · 31/12/2024 10:08

No, I was born with a heart problem which has been surgically corrected twice; my first surgery was when I was a baby. I'd have probably not seen my 2nd birthday.

FelixtheAardvark · 31/12/2024 10:09

No. I would probably have been dead at 35.

ilikeeggs · 31/12/2024 10:10

I’m not sure I would have survived my first childbirth at 26 but if I had an ectopic pregnancy and tube rupture at 33 probably would have killed me.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 31/12/2024 10:15

Aintnobodygottime · 31/12/2024 10:03

Very true. But I think this thread is suffering quite a bit from people dying of things they may not even have had or experienced in the 16th century so I picked that one as an example!

Yes good point!

OrangeQualityStreetAreTheBest · 31/12/2024 10:37

I would have been disabled, which would have changed the course of my life anyway. But if not I would have died in childbirth - if not before, I have no idea how many times I've been saved my medication or vaccinations.

DefyingGravy · 31/12/2024 10:43

SarahAndQuack · 31/12/2024 00:49

I know Sweden industrialised later than England, and France as well, but I'd be interested to know whether or not this is part of the same rise in infant mortality that we see here? In some ways the sixteenth century was a safer place to be than, say, the nineteenth - it's not all steady progress towards better healthcare, is it?

(I'm also on the side of 'death rates were not 100% shocker'.)

To be fair, the human death rate IS 100%! It’s just when/ what we die of that changes…

turbonerd · 31/12/2024 10:44

Whatabouthow · 30/12/2024 21:38

Yes. Every time I hear of someone free birthing to avoid interventions I think of all the bodies of lambs I've collected from fields where sheep have been lambing and think, great job nature.

Thank you for this.
I had a fair bit of grief from various idiots about my emergency C-section and the next two I had to have. I wanted to scream sternly inform them about the death rate in nature, but felt it was a bit harsh to burst their precious bubbles.

But UTI’s, can you die from one?

SarahAndQuack · 31/12/2024 10:45

DefyingGravy · 31/12/2024 10:43

To be fair, the human death rate IS 100%! It’s just when/ what we die of that changes…

Hence the Baldrick reference! Grin

Aintnobodygottime · 31/12/2024 10:46

turbonerd · 31/12/2024 10:44

Thank you for this.
I had a fair bit of grief from various idiots about my emergency C-section and the next two I had to have. I wanted to scream sternly inform them about the death rate in nature, but felt it was a bit harsh to burst their precious bubbles.

But UTI’s, can you die from one?

You can die of any sort of infection if it becomes systemic. But they don’t have the death rate that people seem to be assigning them on this thread.

Fgfgfg · 31/12/2024 10:47

Tittat50 · 30/12/2024 20:55

How did women go along with having a child knowing what they did back then. How many poor women had no choice having sex with husbands and then pregnancy and felt terrified by the odds against them.
I would have wanted to avoid and preserve my life at all costs.

I must go research any stats on this, fascinating.

Become a nun!

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 31/12/2024 10:52

I doubt it. Two difficult labours, and much more recently, in hospital with pneumonia and pleurisy - 5 weeks 😱! of ABs. But I’m past my three score and ten anyway, so consider myself very lucky that there’s been nothing else - so far.

turbonerd · 31/12/2024 10:56

CanadianJohn · 30/12/2024 22:02

The drink of the common people was "small ale" - low alcohol beer. It is thought (by wiki) that it may have been as low as 1% alcohol.

Yes, I thought so too. But then my local History nerd said the alcohol content likely was higher because of something plausible I forgot what he said.
He went into details of the brewing of the ale that admittedly I didn’t pay much attention to 😂

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 31/12/2024 10:59

I think a lot of people are forgetting we intervene medically in things not because they have a 100% death rate but because we regard 50%, 10%, hell, even 1% as unacceptably high. Or because they don’t necessarily kill you but leave you disabled or at higher risk later on.
Modern medical intervention does not equal ‘would have died without it’ for many of the things mentioned here. Plus there was medicine in the past and only some of it ineffective.

Baileysatchristmas · 31/12/2024 11:00

No I'd have died when I was born.

Jasmin71 · 31/12/2024 11:11

No, dead as soon as I was born

Dontcallmescarface · 31/12/2024 11:29

I would have died from a heart attack in August
DP would have died at birth ( born at 30 weeks by emergency c-sec as he had a seizure in utero).

turbonerd · 31/12/2024 11:31

I’d like to put this graph here.
A LOT of people died from various things, and A LOT of women died in childbirth before the advent of modern medicine. So the world population didn’t explode until fairly recently. Even though the 1600’s did see a substantial rise in population in Europe, it was miniscule compared to the last 200 years.

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