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Films that would not be made now

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Samcro · 28/12/2024 22:00

I know it’s a topic that has been done before.
but what film do you think would not be made now and why?
mine is, every which way but loose.
yep the Clint Eastwood film with the orangutan

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Kebabofmeat · 29/12/2024 01:53

Save the last dance - the racism wouldn’t stand in todays world
east is east - again racism and domestic violence labelled as comedy
Grease - always hated the storyline of the boys owning the girls (whilst 30+ year olds play teenagers)
trainspotting - the baby scene scarred me for life

series- little Britain, the inbetweeners and only fools and horses as British humour is seen as too offensive now

hihelenhi · 29/12/2024 01:56

I don't think the domestic violence in East is East is portrayed as "comedy" at all - it's shocking and was intended to be.

Kebabofmeat · 29/12/2024 01:56

American beauty - a dad trying to sleep with his daughters friend, gross

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MerryMaker · 29/12/2024 01:56

East is East did not show racism and DV as comedy. Again written about a woman's real experience of growing up.

And trainspotting is supposed to be harrowing. It was about life in a drug infested outer estate in Edinburgh. A side of life that most people at the time ignored or knew nothing about.

hihelenhi · 29/12/2024 02:02

Yeah, I really don't think that films that just "show uncomfortable/difficult things" would be banned at all. These are recent films being talked about, not films from 50 + years back. Some may have trigger warnings these days, but that's generally it.

What would be banned or edited is more likely to be movies that could be seen to promote things like smoking, racism, homophobia, misogyny or have those kinds of message.

Just mentioning or showing them really isn't the same thing as promoting them. Same as with product placements, smoking etc. It's about the message in the narrative, not their existence fullstop.

usernamedunno · 29/12/2024 02:03

CAJIE · 29/12/2024 01:13

yes some are uncomfortable to watch sure but why have this discussion? Will we have a world where only films that are totally politically correct or adhere to a specific ideology are allowed to be shown? Even films which have some artistic value.Just because a generation who refuse to admit that they are prejudiced towards older people and anyone that does not fit into their machine like view of productivity, can feel ok?So no nuance can exist? what will happen to film studies or film analysis?Not talking about Carry on Movies obviously.

Totally agree. I also think we have a generation of parents who over explain what's "ok " and what's "not ok". If we worked it out then I'm sure they can too. Instead we're taking away their ability to think

hihelenhi · 29/12/2024 02:05

Kebabofmeat · 29/12/2024 01:56

American beauty - a dad trying to sleep with his daughters friend, gross

It may well be but it wasn't "approved of" in those days either. Was the film actively promoting the idea of a dad trying to sleep with his daughter's friend, do you think? Or something else?

I'd say a lot of 80s films that rely on sex (eg Porkies) do that far more than movies like American Beauty. Again, just showing something doesn't imply promotion.

usernamedunno · 29/12/2024 02:25

Kebabofmeat · 29/12/2024 01:56

American beauty - a dad trying to sleep with his daughters friend, gross

It was definitely gross at the time too

OonaStubbs · 29/12/2024 02:35

Not a film but the TV series "Rainbow" would not be made today.

Zippy would have been put on Ritalin.
George would be undergoing assessment for gender dysphoria.
Geoffrey would be shunned by polite society for being a single middled-age man living in a house with talking animals.
I'm not sure about Bungle. Maybe he would be OK.

Passwordsaremynemesis · 29/12/2024 02:36

Why Rita, Sue and Bob too? Or Wish you were here, or Trainspotting? All fantastic movies, although not always an easy watch, but then they aren’t supposed to be? I remember finding them pretty shocking at the time anyway, but I don’t get why they wouldn’t be made now. They certainly weren’t glamourising anything, and at least one of them was based on the authors life.

Willyoujustbequiet · 29/12/2024 02:38

Blazing Saddles.

Which would be a shame.

OonaStubbs · 29/12/2024 02:41

Back to the Future. Biff is still around the family in the "new future" after trying to rape Lorraine in 1955.

WearyAuldWumman · 29/12/2024 02:43

usernamedunno · 29/12/2024 02:25

It was definitely gross at the time too

Yes...I recall that the only reason the protagonist didn't go ahead and sleep with the girl was that he realised that she was a virgin.

TroysMammy · 29/12/2024 02:47

PotholesAnonymous · 28/12/2024 22:41

Zulu

Why? You do realise it's based on true events?

shuggles · 29/12/2024 03:02

hihelenhi · 29/12/2024 02:02

Yeah, I really don't think that films that just "show uncomfortable/difficult things" would be banned at all. These are recent films being talked about, not films from 50 + years back. Some may have trigger warnings these days, but that's generally it.

What would be banned or edited is more likely to be movies that could be seen to promote things like smoking, racism, homophobia, misogyny or have those kinds of message.

Just mentioning or showing them really isn't the same thing as promoting them. Same as with product placements, smoking etc. It's about the message in the narrative, not their existence fullstop.

You are correct, but unfortunately there are a lot of people who can't tell the difference between a movie telling a story about offensive subject matter, and a movie that actively promotes offensive subject matter.

Just look at how many snotty movie critics called the Inbetweeners 2 movie "misogynist," showing that the satire went completely over their heads.

shuggles · 29/12/2024 03:06

Pyjamatimenow · 28/12/2024 22:34

American pie

American Pie is a really good example because of the webcam scene.

Having the scene in the movie, in and of itself, is not an issue of course; but what is a massive issue is the complete absence of any consequences for Jim for recording someone without their knowledge. And Jim and Nadia were depicted as still being friends after the incident, with Nadia completely unbothered by what happened.

hihelenhi · 29/12/2024 03:19

OonaStubbs · 29/12/2024 02:41

Back to the Future. Biff is still around the family in the "new future" after trying to rape Lorraine in 1955.

I'd say it's more the stereotyped/racist depiction of "the Libyans" that stood out to me there, and you def wouldn't have got Marty's mum having the hots for him these days, I don't think, very like the Tom Hanks Big thing. Biff being around the family really is the least of it. Also, I believe Crispin Glover was not happy with the implications about the dad and the form his happy ending took in the first movie, which is why he refused to do the others.

As I say, generally, dodginess tends to be judged less by merely presenting or including a particular subject matter (although I agree with the previous poster who said a worrying number of people seem to find this distinction difficult to comprehend) but HOW it is presented in the movie. In American Beauty part of the realisation and story is that he IS some sad middle aged man fantasising like a massive creep about this teenage girl who he realises is a virgin. That's the "shock" and a key plot point. He's not meant to be admirable in the story. Whereas Bill Murray's "psych" experiments at the start of Ghostbusters are about coercion and entirely sexist - with the message that "this is why he is cool". THAT is the difference between whether something is likely to be seen as "problematic" nowadays or not.

I do worry that some making decisions now can't distinguish between mere mention of something uncomfortable and its promotion, but I really don't think that any mention of "uncomfortable things" would be on course for a banning.

LBFseBrom · 29/12/2024 03:22

Seven Brides for Seven Brothers.

Dreadful film, cringeworthy.

I saw it on TV as a child and wasn't happy with it then, why anybody approved of women being kidnapped even in those days is beyond me.

Enterthedragonqueen · 29/12/2024 03:29

Kiss Kiss Bang Bang with Robert Downey Jr & Val Kilmer from 2005.

So many sexist & homophobic references in it. It absolutely wouldn't use the same language & references if made now.

Miffylou · 29/12/2024 03:48

Seven Brides for Seven Brothers.
Such wonderful music! Such fantastic dancing! Such a deeply offensive plot!

VivienneDelacroix · 29/12/2024 04:06

Not a film, but I loved Dawson's Creek as hangover TV when I was at university. I showed the first episode to my teenagers recently and they (and I) were appalled by teenaged Pacey losing his virginity to his English teacher. It wasn't seen as particularly shocking - she did lose her job, but no one was worried about Pacey, no mention of criminality or paedophilia.

marmia1234 · 29/12/2024 04:07

WGACA · 28/12/2024 23:42

Yes also to Dirty Dancjng and Grease!

Oh come on those two movies are iconic.

marmia1234 · 29/12/2024 04:18

OonaStubbs · 29/12/2024 02:41

Back to the Future. Biff is still around the family in the "new future" after trying to rape Lorraine in 1955.

It was a whole different world so that didn't happen. Geez and it was a comedy,

daisychain01 · 29/12/2024 04:34

Mochudubh · 28/12/2024 22:51

Blazing Saddles.Made sorts by a Jew, Mel Brooks, but takes the piss out of all sorts of prejudice.

Ironically, it's films that poke fun at racism, sexism etc that wouldn't be allowed today,

Edited

Mel Brooks was a genius. The whole point is that he's creating a parody about those tasteless aspects of society, and ultimately everyone was taking the piss out of everyone else, nobody is spared - but you have to watch his films through that lens.

Unfortunately people probably don't see the satire....

ffsfindmeausername · 29/12/2024 04:35

weareallcats · 28/12/2024 23:19

Watership Down is terrifying - a cheesy Paul McCartney song did not make it less so.

Paul McCartney song in watership down which song was that? I only remember Art garfunkels bright eyes from the classic 1978 version of watership down.
I was also going to say Rita, sue&bob too would definitely not be made today.