What opinion of yours will nobody ever change?

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For me it’s how disgusting it is to wash dishes in a sink or basin full of water. It turns my stomach a bit. The dishes have to be washed in fresh, running water.

He does have enormous ears which in the week prior to his groom appear disproportionately large 🤣

The ones that are happy are less likely to post about it to be fair. Especially as then you’d be considered to be smug, bragging etc.

I would be utterly miserable if I was forced into some traditional female roles. No thank you.

I've lived both. Having children is better by far

That if you're having to regularly compromise and work hard at your marriage then you're obviously not married to the right person.

Life can be hard enough, so your marriage should feel easy and almost effortless.

For you x

Yes, exactly this. In the article that the PP posted, the studies found women were unhappy because they had to take on the bulk of caring responsibilities and men didn’t. So basically they’re unhappy BECAUSE of traditional gender roles and because men aren’t doing caring and chores enough. The absolute last thing we need is a return to “tradition” which is a human invention anyway.

Agree. “Relationships are hard work” is gaslighty nonsense

No, it is being double burdened that is making women miserable.

You're conflating two different things.
Equal rights and traditional gender roles are not the same.

Right so the answer is for men to do their fair share.

Exactly.

Climate change is a mix of the inevitable and baloney

Both articles are about women being less happy because they are double burdened. Women have become increasingly double burdened as traditional gender roles have disappeared.

The second article is not an opinion piece, it's conclusion comes from surveys.

The women in my life who don't have to work are without a doubt happier. The ones who do work wish they didn't have to. Nobody on their deathbed wishes they spent more time at work. My own mum was a SAHM when we were young, my siblings and I benefitted from this massively.

I don't need an explanation on what feminism is. Equal rights are important, nobody with a braincell denies that. Preferring traditional gender roles does not mean you don't agree with equality.

An interesting part taken from the article was:

'people who identify as liberals, and people who never attend religious services report the lowest levels of personal satisfaction, but they also report the highest levels of support for feminist ideals.'

The key word here is 'forced.' Anyone being forced to do anything is not going to make them happy.

Unfortunately, there are many women who are 'forced' to work when they would prefer to be a SAHM because being able to survive on one income is now a rarity.

I don't see women who are 'forced' to be a SAHM. It is almost always a choice, unless they are with some crazed abusive psychopath; but that is a different topic.

@BaubleMania are you ok?!

Yes.

It's not that women should return to traditional roles, it's that blokes should match women's efforts in the home and out of the home.

Men doing their fair share doesn't prevent women from being double burdened.

Of course it does. There's only so much housework and so much childcare to do on top of a day's work.

If both muck in, it gets done quicker anletter burden is halved.

It's then both who are "double-burdened" instead of just women.

Exactly.

It does because the woman isn’t left to do everything, it is shared. The complaints on here almost always involve a useless man child that refuses to do anything around the house or with the children.

They are shared, but they still exist.

Surely they exist to a certain extent no matter if you work or are a SAHM? Everyone has to clean their house, sort out out children, run certain errands etc that’s just part of being an adult.

So you can either do it yourself or share it and I much prefer to share it with someone.

If someone tries mugging me I'm going to fight to keep my stuff to the best of my ability.

I’ve done both. Sahm and working parent.

i was not happier as a sahm. I hated all the cooking and cleaning, the total child responsibility, dh having to put in tons of o/t and not seeing him, never getting a day off, even when ill.

what actually makes me happier is working, and being able to outsource all the bits I hate. Cleaner, gardener etc. I also liked having childcare in place so if I was ill I could actually take time off to recover, and also things like take a day’s a/l to get caught up with things, go shopping, drs appts etc without dragging the kids too.

so no, I don’t wish I didn’t have to work.