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Blake Lively suing Justin Baldoni for sexual harassment

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PrettyFlyforaMaiTai · 21/12/2024 15:50

According to TMZ Blake Lively is suing Justin Baldoni for sexual harassment on the set of ‘It Ends With Us’.

According to the lawsuit, a meeting was held in regards to the hostile work environment. Blake demanded that Baldoni stop showing nude videos or images of women to her, no more mention of Baldoni's alleged previous "pornography addiction," no more discussions about sexual conquests in front of Blake and others, no further mentions of cast and crew's genitalia, no more inquiries about Blake's weight, and no further mention of Blake's dead father and no more adding of sex scenes, oral sex or on camera climaxing by Blake outside of the script Blake approved when signing onto the project.

Baldoni’s representative have denied the allegations and state this is an effort for Blake to rehabilitate her recent poor image.

www.tmz.com/2024/12/21/blake-lively-sues-justin-baldoni-sexual-harassment-retaliation-on-it-ends-with-us-set/

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Trollsandsqueakforbreakfast · 22/12/2024 18:22

Mirabai · 22/12/2024 18:21

Even factory reset phones you can restore everything.

Exactly. It's partly why I don't sell my old devices on, I use them til they die then utterly destroy them. Even then I'm not 100% sure my data has gone.

Moonfasa100 · 22/12/2024 18:31

Trollsandsqueakforbreakfast · 22/12/2024 18:20

AND your phone stores every single message you send and receive, even factory resets doesn't remove them off the device.

That's interesting. But then I have a question.

I was watching "American murder".

It was a documentary about a man who killed his wife. He was having an affair.

In the documentary it shows the woman he had an affair with being interviewed by police.

In the interview he asks her why she deleted all the the texts between herself and the man.

She said "oh because I just didn't want any reminder of him on my phone"

It didn't seem like the police could access the deleted messages at all.

So If the phone stores every message you send, why couldn't the police access those messages.

Trollsandsqueakforbreakfast · 22/12/2024 18:34

Moonfasa100 · 22/12/2024 18:31

That's interesting. But then I have a question.

I was watching "American murder".

It was a documentary about a man who killed his wife. He was having an affair.

In the documentary it shows the woman he had an affair with being interviewed by police.

In the interview he asks her why she deleted all the the texts between herself and the man.

She said "oh because I just didn't want any reminder of him on my phone"

It didn't seem like the police could access the deleted messages at all.

So If the phone stores every message you send, why couldn't the police access those messages.

They can, how else would they know she deleted them? (Presuming they didn't have the messages from his side? They can also ask that question of a suspect and accomplices to understand them and their psyche better.

DepartingRadish · 22/12/2024 18:36

Phones don't store every message - online storage can be used for storing messages, and it's access to these records which is possible even when a device is factory re-set.

Moonfasa100 · 22/12/2024 18:37

Trollsandsqueakforbreakfast · 22/12/2024 18:34

They can, how else would they know she deleted them? (Presuming they didn't have the messages from his side? They can also ask that question of a suspect and accomplices to understand them and their psyche better.

They knew that she had deleted some, because there were missing parts of the text conversation.

For example he would text her "do you want to meet up after her work".

Then her reply would be missing.

Then there would be a message from him saying "great see you then"

DepartingRadish · 22/12/2024 18:38

Anyway - back to the JB / BL case; that hopefully answers your question about how evidence is obtained.

Moonfasa100 · 22/12/2024 18:39

DepartingRadish · 22/12/2024 18:38

Anyway - back to the JB / BL case; that hopefully answers your question about how evidence is obtained.

So they'll probably be in court next year. I wonder how long that'll go on for.

Mirabai · 22/12/2024 18:49

Moonfasa100 · 22/12/2024 18:31

That's interesting. But then I have a question.

I was watching "American murder".

It was a documentary about a man who killed his wife. He was having an affair.

In the documentary it shows the woman he had an affair with being interviewed by police.

In the interview he asks her why she deleted all the the texts between herself and the man.

She said "oh because I just didn't want any reminder of him on my phone"

It didn't seem like the police could access the deleted messages at all.

So If the phone stores every message you send, why couldn't the police access those messages.

The police sometimes have to request the provider for access but they’re still there.

Moonfasa100 · 22/12/2024 18:53

Mirabai · 22/12/2024 18:49

The police sometimes have to request the provider for access but they’re still there.

No I read up on that case.

The police definitely couldn't access her messages.

Mirabai · 22/12/2024 19:40

Moonfasa100 · 22/12/2024 18:53

No I read up on that case.

The police definitely couldn't access her messages.

What date was the murder?

Moonfasa100 · 22/12/2024 19:47

Mirabai · 22/12/2024 19:40

What date was the murder?

I just checked.

It was 2018

Bontonbonbon · 22/12/2024 20:19

Anyone who reads this and comes away thinking ‘Blake was rude in an interview so she deserves it’ is a paid agent of Justin’s PR. This is beyond inappropriate and gross. He let people your a closed set after he’s pressured her to do an additional, unnecessary nude scene. The fucker.

On the day ofshooting the scene in which Ms. Lively's character gives birth, Mr.
Baldoni and Mr. Heath suddenly pressured Ms. Lively to simulate full nudity, despite no mention of nudity for this scene in the script, her contract, or in previous creative discussions . Mr. Baldoni insisted to Ms. Lively that women give birth naked, and that his wife had “ripped her clothes off” during labor. He claimed it was “not normal ” for women to remain in their hospital gowns while giving birth. Ms. Lively disagreed, but felt forced into a compromise that she would be naked from below the chest down.
36.
When the birth scene was filmed , the set was chaotic , crowded and utterly lacking in standard industry protections for filming nude scenes—such as choregraphing the scene with an intimacy coordinator, having a signed nudity rider, or simply turning off the monitors so the scene was notbroadcasttoallcrewonset(andontheirpersonalphonesandiPad). Mr.HeathandMr.Baldonialso failed to close the set, allowing non-essential crew to pass through while Ms. Lively was mostly nude with her legs spread wide in stirrups and only a small piece of fabric covering her genitalia. Among the non- essential persons present that day was Wayfarer co-Chairman Mr. Sarowitz, who flew in for one of his few set visits. Ms. Lively was not provided with anything to cover herself with between takes until after she had made multiple requests . Ms. Lively became even more alarmed when Mr. Baldoni introduced his "best friend" to play the role of the OBGYN, when ordinarily, a small role of this nature would be filled by a local actor. Ms. Lively felt that the selection of Mr. Baldoni's friend for this intimate role, in which the actor's face and hands were in close proximity to her nearly nude genitalia for a birth scene, was invasive and humiliating.
provide some minimal privacy without disturbing the shot (because that fabric is not able to have visible straps from profile camera angles).

DepartingRadish · 22/12/2024 20:27

I've just read the full papers - really unpleasant. What's not immediately clear until you read them, is that Baldoni is not just Lively's co-star - he's also the co-owner of the studio. Consequently he had a lot more control and influence than if he'd 'just' been an actor starring opposite her.

@Moonfasa100 - the Watts family murders is not a case I've heard of before, and I haven't seen the documentary. However having had a quick look, one of the things that's not clear is whether the police actually requested access from Apple to Kessinger's cloud. It wouldn't hugely surprise me if they didn't, as by the time they interviewed her, Chris Watts had already confessed to the killings at his trial in late 2018.

OffTheScales · 22/12/2024 21:10

Waterweight · 22/12/2024 11:32

They're both producers on this film so why go ahead if it was this bad ?

Not saying it didn't happen or anything but really they both had alit of power here & I don't know what triggered her reputation downfall but surely this film was a waste of time for everybody

Read the previous messages outlining each and every "No more.." before you carry on. Educate yourself to what's in front of you FGS 👀

OffTheScales · 22/12/2024 21:11

Cooriedoon · 22/12/2024 11:33

Ah so because she isn't very nice, sexual harassment is ok. Got it.
Might as well say the rape victim in a short skirt deserved it too, because that is exactly what some of you are saying.

You are spot on there. There is NO EXCUSE for this RAMPANT JOCK BEHAVIOUR. They got a bit of power and control and this is what they did with it. Disgusting 🤢

Lentilweaver · 22/12/2024 21:12

Whst a terrifying film.set to work on.

OffTheScales · 22/12/2024 21:14

WizardOfAus · 22/12/2024 11:42

For anyone still banging on about that “video”….

sounds like the Norwegian entertainment reporter was in on Blake’s smear campaign, too.

from the NYT article:

”On Aug. 10, Kjersti Flaa, a Norwegian entertainment reporter, uploaded to YouTube a 2016 interview in which Ms. Lively snapped back when Ms. Flaa commented on her baby “bump” and remained testy for the rest of the conversation. Ms. Flaa titled it “The Blake Lively interview that made me want to quit my job,” and told The Daily Mail that “it’s time that people behaving badly in Hollywood, or anywhere else for that matter, gets called out for it.”
It wasn’t the first time she had posted a video aligned with a client of Ms. Nathan. In 2022, in the midst of Mr. Depp’s legal battle with Ms. Heard, Ms. Flaa posted clips of her interviews with the actor, tagged #JusticeForJohnnyDepp”

Even more depressing.
Women trying to bury women.
So they did this to Blake Lively & Amber Heard too and who else?
Some people will do anything for money.

OffTheScales · 22/12/2024 21:18

Sux2buthen · 22/12/2024 12:01

He's always been a huge advocate for good and he's not really famous enough to have orchestrated a smear campaign against her, it's all very odd.

Read the facts ffs

DepartingRadish · 22/12/2024 21:24

Flaa has posted a rebuttal video. The whole thing looks shady. I wasn't aware of her previously, but the stunt she pulled with Anne Hathaway, makes me doubt that she's as sincere as she claims in releasing these old interviews.

One point I've read online - although how true this is I don't know - is that apparently the footage was edited and in the original BL still comes across as rude and dismissive, but she does tell Flaa she's joking with the bump comment. Whether that was actually case, who knows? But this whole PR debacle really shines a light on how insidious some of these PR/press relationships are.

OffTheScales · 22/12/2024 21:28

@Mirabai you are spot on. 👌👌👌👌

NonComm · 22/12/2024 21:45

CharlotteLightandDark · 22/12/2024 09:43

It’s amazing how powerful these PR firms are, they went all out to get Blake hence all the negative content that appeared overnight on sm.

she may or may not be a bit prickly but i absolutely believe he’s done this and as in the case of Amber and Johnny, victims don’t have to be perfect

'Victims don't have to be perfect'. Absolutely this. It's also the reason why rape victims withdraw from cases for fear of how they will be portrayed.

ForestAtTheSea · 22/12/2024 21:49

myrtleWilson · 22/12/2024 11:45

JB who said he wasn't sure he had obtained consent for sexual encounters being a feminist ally is a stretch, for sure

At the end of the NYT article, JB is quoted about how men need to step up and be better allies, and that there isn't an excuse to hurt women blabla...
This combined with the movie topic and his podcast seems like a typical tactic, the good person playbook, when the reality is very different.
The list posted above of the demands of BL for continuing work are very specific about his past behaviour. Why would he want to talk about past encounters "where maybe consent wasn't specifically given"?
He seems to want to get absolution from this movie and discussing his past sins with his co-stars. Nothing fits together; it doesn't make sense because it can't make sense. The logical explanation would be that the movie and all the allyship is a cover up.

And I agree on that it is demanded that victims are perfect people, otherwise they brought it on themselves, but the aggressor is allowed to have a "few weaknesses" 🙄

TooBigForMyBoots · 22/12/2024 22:51

Moonfasa100 · 22/12/2024 16:41

They can disagree without calling someone names and swearing at them.

And you can disagree with an opinion without stalking people across the boards. That's well weird behaviour.
Hmm

Your posts on this thread have been nonsensical at best. Misogynistic and conspiracy mongering at worst.
HmmHmmHmm

If you consider bloody a swear word, Mumsnet is not the place for you. We're awful cunts for swearing round here.
Grin

MrsTerryPratchett · 22/12/2024 22:52

If you consider bloody a swear word, Mumsnet is not the place for you. We're awful cunts for swearing round here.

Actual LOL.

Moonfasa100 · 22/12/2024 23:37

Try to learn to read.

It was another poster who said that noblegiraffe was bad on another thread.

Not me. It wasn't me who said it.

Go back and check.