Taliban ban women from nursing and midwifery training

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwy3l1035nlo.amp

Women have now been banned from attending their nursing and midwifery courses at university.

Female patients are only allowed to be attended to by a female unless accompanied by their male escort. This means that thousands of women will now be giving birth by themselves if they can't find a midwife, which are already in short supply. Afghanistan has the highest rate of maternal mortality in the world.

I thought I was too thick or too tired to understand what that pp said, but glad to know you're confused/aghast also

I have no idea what all this actually means.

It’s just a jumbled up word salad.

The world sits by and did nothing because Afghanistan doesn't have any commodities we want. That's why wars happen, for money and power, never for the good of the people.

Sadly so true @KenAdams

Fuelled by a warped interpretation of religion and hatred of women.
It pisses me off no end that religion still has this effect on women and always implemented by men and it always makes me wonder if they are as strict with their own behaviours.

Utter stupidity

Makes absolutely no sense whatsoever

A backwards, inbred, ignorant "race" who will now, by their own stupidity, manage to curse themselves into extinction. Unfortunately scores of women and babies will have to die and suffer before it happens. What a sorry show of idiocy.

It’s horrific. Absolutely awful. These poor women are at the mercy of the men in charge, who see them as disposable. The issue is, when the west was involved, the majority of people wanted the west to get out, and the army that had been trained to support a democratic government threw down their weapons to let the taliban take over. The taliban is an awful regime, but the country’s own people joined in with them and allowed the take over. How do you deal with that?

Its the gradual erosion of women's rights and freedoms. It all started with no, no we're not doing anything, and bit by bit they've gone backwards. I feel helpless to do anything - other than protest and lobby. Surely we have to do that, if they can't speak out for fear then we have to.

I said I'd like to see 'male escorts' replaced with Doctors of either gender

Seekingstyle · Yesterday 17:39

The ultimate Darwin award will, in around 50 years, go to the Taliban for eradicating the Afghani people through misogyny.

Yeah but after that they will still be scratching their beards wondering why/,where it all went wrong!

I really cannot understand this. I know full well there is misogyny everywhere but on such a grand scale? They all have mothers/sisters/wives.....

It's not that they don't want to it's that every time a foreign invasion of Afghanistan is undertaken it's a total disaster, the terrain is inhospitable and the Taliban generally have support from neighbouring nations.

'Male escorts' doesn't mean what you think it does. Women aren't allowed to attend medical treatment unless they are accompanied by a male relative, it's not something provided by the health services

Doctors of either gender?

You do realise that women are not even allowed to go to school now? How does one become a doctor?

@viques I know. It was so badly managed.

Kindly @Mem1 I think you think ‘male escort’ means some kind of health professional? It just means a male family member. (ie a wife can’t visit a dr without her husband taking her and being there.)

Apparently it is the only country in the world in which (successful) women's suicides outnumber those of men.

I'm no expert in it all but Britain had an empire once, we supposedly brought "civilization" (our ways) to the "uncivilised" parts of the world (where they did things differently).

Afghanistan was never subdued. Not by the British, not by the Russians, and not by the combined might of Britain, the US and other western allies in the past two decades.

Last successful invasion was probably Genghis Kahn. Who would probably not be impressed with the Taliban. However, trying to emulate him would be problematic.

I mean it exactly as I said it - I hope 'male escorts' (family members/neighbours/hell even the taliban itself) are replaced with proper medical carers of either gender for women giving birth

The Taliban will only suffer from a lack of women no matter how badly they threat them & I genuinely wish the best for these women despite how some mumsnetters are taking my comment.

I don't wish any harm to these babies either but I will hope for a better system long term.

No love. I said I hope "male escorts" are replaced by trained doctors of either gender...

Afghanistan already leads the world in poor maternity care statistically even before this. My thoughts go out to the women past & present

But that’s a completely different role, the male escorts are there to ensure everything is taliban proper, the medical staff has a different role.

If you mean that you hope women won’t need to be escorted then say so.

It's misplaced levity, but the idea that the Taliban have no idea what "male escort" reads as in the West is grimly funny.

I HOPE THEY'RE REPLACED WITH PROPER MEDICAL STAFF = no male escorts & proper medical care

Anyway I'm done with this whole thread it's done literally fuck all to help anybody just given a few women a moral boost that thankfully we don't live in Afghanistan & we know better then a terrorist group on how to deliver babies so we can all move on with our lives

Don’t shout, there is no need.

It's embarrassing to witness someone refuse to admit they made an obvious mistake.